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The AMD Ryzen 5 1600 performs slightly slower than before.

The AMD Ryzen 5 1600 performs slightly slower than before.

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1234qaz12qaz
Posting Freak
773
12-21-2017, 02:06 PM
#1
Hello,
I changed from an I5-4570 to a Ryzen 5 1600.
Purchased a new motherboard (MSI B350 Mortar), new RAM (Corsair Vengeance 2x8 3200MhZ) and a new CPU (Ryzen 5 1600) which I cool with an NZXT Kraken X52.
After installation, it runs at 3.2GhZ with 2133MhZ. Overclocking is possible, but I’m aiming for 4.1GhZ and 3200MhZ in the BIOS.
However, my games now have lower FPS and feel less smooth than before.
I’ve tried these configurations:
- 3.2GhZ with 2133, 2667, 3200MhZ
- 4.1GhZ with 2133, 2667, 3200MhZ
None provide a satisfactory gaming experience.
My motherboard and GPU drivers are all current.
I’m confused and need help.
Anyone can assist?
Best regards, Joris
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1234qaz12qaz
12-21-2017, 02:06 PM #1

Hello,
I changed from an I5-4570 to a Ryzen 5 1600.
Purchased a new motherboard (MSI B350 Mortar), new RAM (Corsair Vengeance 2x8 3200MhZ) and a new CPU (Ryzen 5 1600) which I cool with an NZXT Kraken X52.
After installation, it runs at 3.2GhZ with 2133MhZ. Overclocking is possible, but I’m aiming for 4.1GhZ and 3200MhZ in the BIOS.
However, my games now have lower FPS and feel less smooth than before.
I’ve tried these configurations:
- 3.2GhZ with 2133, 2667, 3200MhZ
- 4.1GhZ with 2133, 2667, 3200MhZ
None provide a satisfactory gaming experience.
My motherboard and GPU drivers are all current.
I’m confused and need help.
Anyone can assist?
Best regards, Joris

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Retrospear
Member
56
12-21-2017, 04:02 PM
#2
Sounds like you've got the bios overclock bug. As soon as you touch the voltage or the multiplier your processor is constantly clocked to 1.2 or 1.6 in windows?
It's a pretty common problem with people on the 350 chipset.
There's some good information on this thread about that bug, and how to work around it.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1628508/offic...wners-club
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Retrospear
12-21-2017, 04:02 PM #2

Sounds like you've got the bios overclock bug. As soon as you touch the voltage or the multiplier your processor is constantly clocked to 1.2 or 1.6 in windows?
It's a pretty common problem with people on the 350 chipset.
There's some good information on this thread about that bug, and how to work around it.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1628508/offic...wners-club

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ThaBear
Member
224
12-27-2017, 09:13 AM
#3
Maybe either your graphics card isn't stable enough, try going back to version 3.9 to check how it affects things, or 4.1 only to see if it causes overheating and slows things down—definitely not helpful for performance. For testing, consider using a 2666 RAM and keep it simple to confirm stability and ease of testing. Experiment with various CPU speeds and voltages to find your optimal setup. Also, make sure to update the BIOS if you haven't already.
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ThaBear
12-27-2017, 09:13 AM #3

Maybe either your graphics card isn't stable enough, try going back to version 3.9 to check how it affects things, or 4.1 only to see if it causes overheating and slows things down—definitely not helpful for performance. For testing, consider using a 2666 RAM and keep it simple to confirm stability and ease of testing. Experiment with various CPU speeds and voltages to find your optimal setup. Also, make sure to update the BIOS if you haven't already.

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A7bkkFaleh
Junior Member
27
12-27-2017, 12:23 PM
#4
Maybe either your graphics card isn't stable at all, so go back to version 3.9 and check how it affects things, or 2) does your CPU manage to stay below throttling during games? Going to 4.1 just to overheat and slow down would definitely hurt performance. It’s better to test with a 2666 and keep it simple for stability and ease of testing. Experiment with various CPU speeds and voltages to find your best results. Also, make sure to update the BIOS if you haven’t already. I assume since your RAM is running at 3200, you’ve probably done that, but if not, definitely do it.

That should be the issue. I’ll try using versions from 3.9 to 4.1 and see Voltage too.
I haven’t checked long-term temperature effects yet.
BIOS updated already.
Results will be shared in a few hours.
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A7bkkFaleh
12-27-2017, 12:23 PM #4

Maybe either your graphics card isn't stable at all, so go back to version 3.9 and check how it affects things, or 2) does your CPU manage to stay below throttling during games? Going to 4.1 just to overheat and slow down would definitely hurt performance. It’s better to test with a 2666 and keep it simple for stability and ease of testing. Experiment with various CPU speeds and voltages to find your best results. Also, make sure to update the BIOS if you haven’t already. I assume since your RAM is running at 3200, you’ve probably done that, but if not, definitely do it.

That should be the issue. I’ll try using versions from 3.9 to 4.1 and see Voltage too.
I haven’t checked long-term temperature effects yet.
BIOS updated already.
Results will be shared in a few hours.

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ByWeaadox
Member
65
12-27-2017, 12:58 PM
#5
Maybe either your graphics card isn't stable, try going back to version 3.9 to check, or 2) is your CPU maintaining lower throttle temperatures during games? Going to 4.1 just to overheat it and slow it down won’t help performance. It’s better to test with a 2666 and keep it simple for stability and ease of testing. Experiment with various CPU speeds and voltages to find your best results. Also, make sure to update the BIOS if you haven’t already. Assuming your RAM is running at 3200, you might have already updated it, but if not, do it now. If it’s a 4.1 release that’s really stressing the chip, stick with higher-end cooling options. Your most likely throttling point should be around 4.1.
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ByWeaadox
12-27-2017, 12:58 PM #5

Maybe either your graphics card isn't stable, try going back to version 3.9 to check, or 2) is your CPU maintaining lower throttle temperatures during games? Going to 4.1 just to overheat it and slow it down won’t help performance. It’s better to test with a 2666 and keep it simple for stability and ease of testing. Experiment with various CPU speeds and voltages to find your best results. Also, make sure to update the BIOS if you haven’t already. Assuming your RAM is running at 3200, you might have already updated it, but if not, do it now. If it’s a 4.1 release that’s really stressing the chip, stick with higher-end cooling options. Your most likely throttling point should be around 4.1.

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Cathomir
Member
64
12-29-2017, 11:40 AM
#6
Roland Of Gilead:
Supahos :
Maybe you're not seeing stability with your current setup, so try going back to version 3.9 and check how it affects things. Also, see if your CPU stays cool during gaming at lower temperatures—going to 4.1 just to overheat and slow down would hurt performance. It's better to test with a 2666 and keep it stable for reliable testing. Experiment with different CPU speeds and voltages to find your best results. Also, make sure you've updated the BIOS if needed. Since your RAM is running at 3200, you might already have done that, but if not, do it now.
Assuming it's a 4.1 release, it could be pushing your chip too hard. Even the higher binned 1800x models can't exceed that. For a 1600, keep it a bit lower. Use 4.1 mainly for high-end cooling if you're aiming for that level.
It looks like the 4.1 version caused a significant overclock failure. I didn’t know where to look before, but now I do.
I’ve set it to 3.6GhZ with 2667MhZ RAM, which seems to be performing best so far.
In Cinebench, the score is 1141 and FPS is 96.
However, when running Prime95 and Blendmode, my screen and keyboard shut down after about 20 minutes, but my PC continues to run.
Both voltages are set to auto—1.2V for CPU and 1.35V for RAM.
Any advice?
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Cathomir
12-29-2017, 11:40 AM #6

Roland Of Gilead:
Supahos :
Maybe you're not seeing stability with your current setup, so try going back to version 3.9 and check how it affects things. Also, see if your CPU stays cool during gaming at lower temperatures—going to 4.1 just to overheat and slow down would hurt performance. It's better to test with a 2666 and keep it stable for reliable testing. Experiment with different CPU speeds and voltages to find your best results. Also, make sure you've updated the BIOS if needed. Since your RAM is running at 3200, you might already have done that, but if not, do it now.
Assuming it's a 4.1 release, it could be pushing your chip too hard. Even the higher binned 1800x models can't exceed that. For a 1600, keep it a bit lower. Use 4.1 mainly for high-end cooling if you're aiming for that level.
It looks like the 4.1 version caused a significant overclock failure. I didn’t know where to look before, but now I do.
I’ve set it to 3.6GhZ with 2667MhZ RAM, which seems to be performing best so far.
In Cinebench, the score is 1141 and FPS is 96.
However, when running Prime95 and Blendmode, my screen and keyboard shut down after about 20 minutes, but my PC continues to run.
Both voltages are set to auto—1.2V for CPU and 1.35V for RAM.
Any advice?

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QuickPlatinum
Junior Member
20
01-05-2018, 04:35 PM
#7
Adjust the voltage to about 1.30 and aim for 3.7, gradually increasing to 3.8-9. If needed for stability, lower the CPU voltage to around 1.35v and follow the previous adjustment as your consistent 24/7 optimal setting.
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QuickPlatinum
01-05-2018, 04:35 PM #7

Adjust the voltage to about 1.30 and aim for 3.7, gradually increasing to 3.8-9. If needed for stability, lower the CPU voltage to around 1.35v and follow the previous adjustment as your consistent 24/7 optimal setting.

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ManicFG
Member
72
01-10-2018, 11:25 AM
#8
MidgetChicken shared some insights on performance tuning.
Roland Of Gilead suggested checking stability by reverting to a previous version and testing with a different CPU if needed. He recommended trying a 2666 for stability and experimenting with various CPU speeds and voltages.
He also mentioned updating the BIOS and considering a 4.1 OC, noting that even high-end chips can be pushed beyond their limits.
Agreeing with the advice, he pointed out that a 4.1 OC likely caused throttling and recommended starting with a 3.6GhZ setup with 2667Mhz RAM.
He shared his results in Cinebench (1141 CB, 96 FPS) and noted issues with Prime95 and overheating after short periods.
He suggested testing on small FFTs to assess CPU/cache stress and using Memtest for memory health.
He emphasized the benefits of unlocked SKUs in modern CPUs, recommending a stable CPU upgrade first, followed by RAM improvements.
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ManicFG
01-10-2018, 11:25 AM #8

MidgetChicken shared some insights on performance tuning.
Roland Of Gilead suggested checking stability by reverting to a previous version and testing with a different CPU if needed. He recommended trying a 2666 for stability and experimenting with various CPU speeds and voltages.
He also mentioned updating the BIOS and considering a 4.1 OC, noting that even high-end chips can be pushed beyond their limits.
Agreeing with the advice, he pointed out that a 4.1 OC likely caused throttling and recommended starting with a 3.6GhZ setup with 2667Mhz RAM.
He shared his results in Cinebench (1141 CB, 96 FPS) and noted issues with Prime95 and overheating after short periods.
He suggested testing on small FFTs to assess CPU/cache stress and using Memtest for memory health.
He emphasized the benefits of unlocked SKUs in modern CPUs, recommending a stable CPU upgrade first, followed by RAM improvements.

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The_Trap
Member
223
01-10-2018, 12:16 PM
#9
I possess the 1600x version and there are no issues.
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The_Trap
01-10-2018, 12:16 PM #9

I possess the 1600x version and there are no issues.

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DumpyPutty
Member
172
01-10-2018, 01:47 PM
#10
Have you reinstalled Windows following the upgrade? If not, begin with this.
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DumpyPutty
01-10-2018, 01:47 PM #10

Have you reinstalled Windows following the upgrade? If not, begin with this.

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