F5F Stay Refreshed Power Users Overclocking The AMD FX 8370E is not resetting to its original performance level.

The AMD FX 8370E is not resetting to its original performance level.

The AMD FX 8370E is not resetting to its original performance level.

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12-25-2024, 08:58 AM
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Vcore voltage must stay below 1.5v, the lower the better. If it reaches 4v+, there’s a serious issue—your motherboard and CPU aren’t built to handle that level of voltage, current, or heat.
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PandaBearMan23
12-25-2024, 08:58 AM #11

Vcore voltage must stay below 1.5v, the lower the better. If it reaches 4v+, there’s a serious issue—your motherboard and CPU aren’t built to handle that level of voltage, current, or heat.

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Auztn
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12-25-2024, 08:58 AM
#12
Thank you for your response. The overclock wasn't my design—it was handled by an OC tool. Overall, I ended up with a CPU that didn’t return to stock levels. Still, I managed a solid vcore of 1.3125 at a turbo speed of 4.3 GHZ. After replacing the cooler due to leaks, I switched to a Noctua D14 and achieved 25-30 on idle and up to 51-52 after an hour in Prime95. Keep in mind it’s quite hot right now. I’m actually running below ambient temperature during idle. I’m a bit frustrated the CPU isn’t returning to stock and am concerned about potential problems since I don’t fully understand the cause or effects, but I’m having fun with the overclock and playing games at high settings on my RX 480.
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Auztn
12-25-2024, 08:58 AM #12

Thank you for your response. The overclock wasn't my design—it was handled by an OC tool. Overall, I ended up with a CPU that didn’t return to stock levels. Still, I managed a solid vcore of 1.3125 at a turbo speed of 4.3 GHZ. After replacing the cooler due to leaks, I switched to a Noctua D14 and achieved 25-30 on idle and up to 51-52 after an hour in Prime95. Keep in mind it’s quite hot right now. I’m actually running below ambient temperature during idle. I’m a bit frustrated the CPU isn’t returning to stock and am concerned about potential problems since I don’t fully understand the cause or effects, but I’m having fun with the overclock and playing games at high settings on my RX 480.

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Kaze_Br
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12-25-2024, 08:58 AM
#13
It's not feasible to lower a CPU temperature below ambient using mechanical methods like a CPU cooler. To achieve such low temps, chemical approaches such as LN2 or Peltier devices are necessary. This suggests your software might be unreliable or the sensor is faulty.

For the Amd FX series, the recommended solution is using Amd Overdrive. It functions by monitoring the CPU temperature and reporting how near it is to a set limit. If the reading is close to zero, the CPU is extremely hot. Negative readings indicate significant damage and heat stress, prompting the CPU to throttle or shut down. You won't get an exact temperature reading; instead, you'll see the remaining cooling capacity. Overdrive offers the most consistent temperature monitoring for these CPUs.

I recommend investigating your motherboard BIOS settings, performing overclocking adjustments manually, and understanding CPU specifications. Relying solely on software-based overclocking can lead to unpredictable results and may not provide accurate temperature data.
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Kaze_Br
12-25-2024, 08:58 AM #13

It's not feasible to lower a CPU temperature below ambient using mechanical methods like a CPU cooler. To achieve such low temps, chemical approaches such as LN2 or Peltier devices are necessary. This suggests your software might be unreliable or the sensor is faulty.

For the Amd FX series, the recommended solution is using Amd Overdrive. It functions by monitoring the CPU temperature and reporting how near it is to a set limit. If the reading is close to zero, the CPU is extremely hot. Negative readings indicate significant damage and heat stress, prompting the CPU to throttle or shut down. You won't get an exact temperature reading; instead, you'll see the remaining cooling capacity. Overdrive offers the most consistent temperature monitoring for these CPUs.

I recommend investigating your motherboard BIOS settings, performing overclocking adjustments manually, and understanding CPU specifications. Relying solely on software-based overclocking can lead to unpredictable results and may not provide accurate temperature data.

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fishy37
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12-25-2024, 08:58 AM
#14
I've heard about it in many places and have been keeping an eye on the temperatures. Currently, it's 49 on the thermal margin, while the ambient is between 17 and 19, so I'm just a few degrees above that. On core temp and hwmonitor, sometimes the readings I get are even lower than the ambient. The main thing is that the temperatures I'm seeing are quite normal for an overclock. I haven't pushed it any further, though—I'm sure I can do more if needed. I just don't feel like pushing it right now. I want to learn how to do a manual overclock later, but I'm really struggling with all the stuff I had to understand to build this thing, so I'm a bit embarrassed about my language.
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fishy37
12-25-2024, 08:58 AM #14

I've heard about it in many places and have been keeping an eye on the temperatures. Currently, it's 49 on the thermal margin, while the ambient is between 17 and 19, so I'm just a few degrees above that. On core temp and hwmonitor, sometimes the readings I get are even lower than the ambient. The main thing is that the temperatures I'm seeing are quite normal for an overclock. I haven't pushed it any further, though—I'm sure I can do more if needed. I just don't feel like pushing it right now. I want to learn how to do a manual overclock later, but I'm really struggling with all the stuff I had to understand to build this thing, so I'm a bit embarrassed about my language.

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TheAlexZ_
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12-25-2024, 08:58 AM
#15
CoreTemp was written for Intel cpus, so that's not surprising. Overdrive is what should concern you. The Thermal margin will let you know exactly what the cpu is up to and where it can go. Actual temps are nice to have, hard to get on amd cpus. But temps are useless without a frame of reference. If you figure most Intel are good for 100°C max, at 70°C you are getting precariously close to throttling. Easy, no brainer. Your FX cpu has a max temp of just 62°C, but due to design of the Thermal strips in the cores, that's impossible to accurately read by any software, and physical means can't, the cooler is in the way. Generally, you find package temps of low 70's are a better indicator of reaching 60's on the cores. But there's no gray area like Intel has, so that's where Overdrive comes into play. While it can't read the strips exactly, it's algorithms allow it to do all that thermal math hoop jumping and give you a temp that's relatable. And the margins aren't linear, it won't change 1° up or down with a 1°C change in ambient, if your ambient went from 19 to 22, that's 3°, but the margin could easily drop to 40 instead of 49. This is what makes Overdrive so much better, it's realistic value. It's an excellent tool for adjusting things like cpu cooler fan curves, case fan curves etc as you'll get a more accurate picture of what affects the cooler better.
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TheAlexZ_
12-25-2024, 08:58 AM #15

CoreTemp was written for Intel cpus, so that's not surprising. Overdrive is what should concern you. The Thermal margin will let you know exactly what the cpu is up to and where it can go. Actual temps are nice to have, hard to get on amd cpus. But temps are useless without a frame of reference. If you figure most Intel are good for 100°C max, at 70°C you are getting precariously close to throttling. Easy, no brainer. Your FX cpu has a max temp of just 62°C, but due to design of the Thermal strips in the cores, that's impossible to accurately read by any software, and physical means can't, the cooler is in the way. Generally, you find package temps of low 70's are a better indicator of reaching 60's on the cores. But there's no gray area like Intel has, so that's where Overdrive comes into play. While it can't read the strips exactly, it's algorithms allow it to do all that thermal math hoop jumping and give you a temp that's relatable. And the margins aren't linear, it won't change 1° up or down with a 1°C change in ambient, if your ambient went from 19 to 22, that's 3°, but the margin could easily drop to 40 instead of 49. This is what makes Overdrive so much better, it's realistic value. It's an excellent tool for adjusting things like cpu cooler fan curves, case fan curves etc as you'll get a more accurate picture of what affects the cooler better.

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KuroSen_
Junior Member
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12-25-2024, 08:58 AM
#16
I don't fully grasp all that, but what I know is I won't be buying AMD again. I'm planning to save up and purchase an Intel CPU and a NVIDIA graphics card next time. This heat has caused more trouble for me than Columbus did when he found America.
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KuroSen_
12-25-2024, 08:58 AM #16

I don't fully grasp all that, but what I know is I won't be buying AMD again. I'm planning to save up and purchase an Intel CPU and a NVIDIA graphics card next time. This heat has caused more trouble for me than Columbus did when he found America.

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ImNotAle
Junior Member
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12-25-2024, 08:58 AM
#17
Begin the computer in safe mode. Next, manually disable the AMD overdrive. After that, restart and proceed to the BIOS to reset it.
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ImNotAle
12-25-2024, 08:58 AM #17

Begin the computer in safe mode. Next, manually disable the AMD overdrive. After that, restart and proceed to the BIOS to reset it.

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_SmolKelly_
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12-25-2024, 08:58 AM
#18
It wouldn't remove itself from safe mode. The Windows Explorer would cease functioning. Ultimately, it wouldn't operate properly.
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_SmolKelly_
12-25-2024, 08:58 AM #18

It wouldn't remove itself from safe mode. The Windows Explorer would cease functioning. Ultimately, it wouldn't operate properly.

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trayson65
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12-25-2024, 08:58 AM
#19
But since you have an MSI BIOS, perhaps you can show me how to adjust the CPU voltage using it. It's strange, the values keep coming up as 0.23789, and there aren't any obvious overdrive settings. I see 1.3125 in overdrive, but the BIOS handles things differently. The numbers always begin with 0 or 1.
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trayson65
12-25-2024, 08:58 AM #19

But since you have an MSI BIOS, perhaps you can show me how to adjust the CPU voltage using it. It's strange, the values keep coming up as 0.23789, and there aren't any obvious overdrive settings. I see 1.3125 in overdrive, but the BIOS handles things differently. The numbers always begin with 0 or 1.

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iDoNotEvenLift
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12-25-2024, 08:58 AM
#20
The AMD and Intel voltage configurations differ in the BIOS. Below are some helpful tutorials.
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iDoNotEvenLift
12-25-2024, 08:58 AM #20

The AMD and Intel voltage configurations differ in the BIOS. Below are some helpful tutorials.

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