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The 4 core ZEN 3 is a standard configuration for networking equipment.

The 4 core ZEN 3 is a standard configuration for networking equipment.

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IceFlame56YT
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01-18-2016, 02:43 AM
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We haven't seen a ZEN 3 four core CPU because AMD mainly makes one type of desktop/server die and then categorizes them. A four core ZEN 3 would likely be difficult to sell in bulk at an optimal price. My ideas are still open—what do you think? One possibility is they can't keep enough working units for continuous release, another is they limit production until the end of a cycle, or maybe only supply OEMs.
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IceFlame56YT
01-18-2016, 02:43 AM #1

We haven't seen a ZEN 3 four core CPU because AMD mainly makes one type of desktop/server die and then categorizes them. A four core ZEN 3 would likely be difficult to sell in bulk at an optimal price. My ideas are still open—what do you think? One possibility is they can't keep enough working units for continuous release, another is they limit production until the end of a cycle, or maybe only supply OEMs.

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01-20-2016, 07:28 PM
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Or maybe they produce too many GOOD zen3 dies , with all 8 cores functional ... so they're binned and the best go to EPYC processors, then next best thing goes to threadripper, and next trickles down to 16 / 12 / 8 core processors. When there's limited amount of wafers made, and demand for higher core count processors, there's little sense to artificially cut down a die and sell the cpu with a minimal profit.
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thethunderthor
01-20-2016, 07:28 PM #2

Or maybe they produce too many GOOD zen3 dies , with all 8 cores functional ... so they're binned and the best go to EPYC processors, then next best thing goes to threadripper, and next trickles down to 16 / 12 / 8 core processors. When there's limited amount of wafers made, and demand for higher core count processors, there's little sense to artificially cut down a die and sell the cpu with a minimal profit.

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horseygirl101
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01-24-2016, 06:15 PM
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more players focused on budget would likely opt for a 4-core Zen 3 chip. Since production expenses are similar for 4 and 6 cores, they might be holding off and hoping as many buyers as possible will purchase a pricier 6 or 8 core model before the 4-core release. Even with Zen 2, they introduced the 3100 and 3300 series much later than the 3600, 3700x, etc.
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horseygirl101
01-24-2016, 06:15 PM #3

more players focused on budget would likely opt for a 4-core Zen 3 chip. Since production expenses are similar for 4 and 6 cores, they might be holding off and hoping as many buyers as possible will purchase a pricier 6 or 8 core model before the 4-core release. Even with Zen 2, they introduced the 3100 and 3300 series much later than the 3600, 3700x, etc.

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xAdriLCT
Senior Member
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01-28-2016, 11:32 PM
#4
Current output isn't meeting the needs of premium vehicles. Adding another model would mean dividing limited resources. Cheaper options are expected to appear eventually, once demand stabilizes or manufacturing scales up.
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xAdriLCT
01-28-2016, 11:32 PM #4

Current output isn't meeting the needs of premium vehicles. Adding another model would mean dividing limited resources. Cheaper options are expected to appear eventually, once demand stabilizes or manufacturing scales up.

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herobrine6113
Junior Member
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01-29-2016, 10:01 PM
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They typically launch them later in the development stage (July 2019 to Zen 2, R3 3100 in June 2020). There remains a shortage of high-end models, suggesting they might prioritize increasing output over creating new CPUs that aren't widely sought after.
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herobrine6113
01-29-2016, 10:01 PM #5

They typically launch them later in the development stage (July 2019 to Zen 2, R3 3100 in June 2020). There remains a shortage of high-end models, suggesting they might prioritize increasing output over creating new CPUs that aren't widely sought after.

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Dana1211
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01-30-2016, 02:04 AM
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They don’t refresh low-end chips often since there’s little demand. They also omitted zen+; the 1200 and 1300x were replaced with 3100 and 3300x. This helps clear old inventory from earlier models. Why? The 3300x already covers a tight budget.
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Dana1211
01-30-2016, 02:04 AM #6

They don’t refresh low-end chips often since there’s little demand. They also omitted zen+; the 1200 and 1300x were replaced with 3100 and 3300x. This helps clear old inventory from earlier models. Why? The 3300x already covers a tight budget.

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husker53
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01-30-2016, 03:50 AM
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someone with a Ryzen 1000 or 2000 series might see limited gains from a $250 upgrade, as the performance jump to 3300x feels modest and often overpriced. They’re likely weighing the 3600 model (lower speed) or the 5600x (too costly) against a 4-core Zen 3 chip, which suits their needs better—like my own setup with a 2600x.
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husker53
01-30-2016, 03:50 AM #7

someone with a Ryzen 1000 or 2000 series might see limited gains from a $250 upgrade, as the performance jump to 3300x feels modest and often overpriced. They’re likely weighing the 3600 model (lower speed) or the 5600x (too costly) against a 4-core Zen 3 chip, which suits their needs better—like my own setup with a 2600x.

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MrSarx
Senior Member
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01-31-2016, 09:29 PM
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...should not be looking to upgrade their cpu. Because it isn't worth it. Since when does a budget builder only keep a CPU for a couple of years? Even if we had a zen 3 option right now and it was sold at msrp I would strongly advise against doing something like this. With your build there's absolutely no reason to consider a cpu upgrade right now.
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MrSarx
01-31-2016, 09:29 PM #8

...should not be looking to upgrade their cpu. Because it isn't worth it. Since when does a budget builder only keep a CPU for a couple of years? Even if we had a zen 3 option right now and it was sold at msrp I would strongly advise against doing something like this. With your build there's absolutely no reason to consider a cpu upgrade right now.

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BjarneThePro
Junior Member
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01-31-2016, 11:09 PM
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I'm thinking about upgrading my GPU and possibly getting a new CPU. If I can secure a 3070, adding a newer CPU would also be beneficial, though I don't think a 5600X is necessary.
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BjarneThePro
01-31-2016, 11:09 PM #9

I'm thinking about upgrading my GPU and possibly getting a new CPU. If I can secure a 3070, adding a newer CPU would also be beneficial, though I don't think a 5600X is necessary.

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Superlettuce19
Senior Member
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02-01-2016, 12:55 AM
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With the available budget for a 3070, you can allocate extra funds toward a 5600x resolution or maintain your sufficient 2600x setup.
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Superlettuce19
02-01-2016, 12:55 AM #10

With the available budget for a 3070, you can allocate extra funds toward a 5600x resolution or maintain your sufficient 2600x setup.

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