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Set up Ubuntu alongside Windows 10 on a system that doesn’t use EFI.

Set up Ubuntu alongside Windows 10 on a system that doesn’t use EFI.

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unaimartinez
Junior Member
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02-15-2016, 04:58 AM
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I set up Kubuntu next to Windows 10 on an old Thinkpad SL300. I didn’t consider the laptop wasn’t UEFI/EFI, so I created space for Kubuntu and installed it there. I placed the boot-loader (grub) in the Windows primary partition because fdisk -l indicated it was the boot-partition. When I boot to grub, I can install Kubuntu without issues, but the Windows 10 option keeps looping back to grub. I also can’t mount the Windows partition since Windows 10 didn’t fully shut down—it just hibernated. I tried boot-repair, but it didn’t help. I considered using rEFind, which has helped with many boot problems before, but it’s an UEFI bootloader, right? I noticed the Windows partition data looks fine in gparted, though I don’t want to format it. What should I do to enable Windows boot alongside Kubuntu using a different bootloader? Thanks.
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unaimartinez
02-15-2016, 04:58 AM #1

I set up Kubuntu next to Windows 10 on an old Thinkpad SL300. I didn’t consider the laptop wasn’t UEFI/EFI, so I created space for Kubuntu and installed it there. I placed the boot-loader (grub) in the Windows primary partition because fdisk -l indicated it was the boot-partition. When I boot to grub, I can install Kubuntu without issues, but the Windows 10 option keeps looping back to grub. I also can’t mount the Windows partition since Windows 10 didn’t fully shut down—it just hibernated. I tried boot-repair, but it didn’t help. I considered using rEFind, which has helped with many boot problems before, but it’s an UEFI bootloader, right? I noticed the Windows partition data looks fine in gparted, though I don’t want to format it. What should I do to enable Windows boot alongside Kubuntu using a different bootloader? Thanks.

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Wero_NIKI
Member
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02-15-2016, 10:46 AM
#2
Yes, it is possible to utilize the default Windows boot loader alongside Linux and Windows systems.
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Wero_NIKI
02-15-2016, 10:46 AM #2

Yes, it is possible to utilize the default Windows boot loader alongside Linux and Windows systems.

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TheTNTGamer
Member
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02-20-2016, 07:48 PM
#3
I don't understand. I can't even reach my Windows installation.
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TheTNTGamer
02-20-2016, 07:48 PM #3

I don't understand. I can't even reach my Windows installation.

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jofnac
Junior Member
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03-04-2016, 09:57 PM
#4
I've experienced something similar before, likely the same when attempting a dual boot with Windows 8 once. It's uncertain if it will work, but worth a try. In BIOS, adjust the boot sequence so Windows appears first; it should start without a Linux option. Navigate to power settings, select advanced options (possibly UAC), turn off fast startup and shutdown, then reset the boot order to place Windows first. You should regain access to your Windows files. There might be a method to enable smooth dual booting, though I don't recall it. Perhaps reinstalling Kubuntu at this stage could restore normal dual boot functionality.
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jofnac
03-04-2016, 09:57 PM #4

I've experienced something similar before, likely the same when attempting a dual boot with Windows 8 once. It's uncertain if it will work, but worth a try. In BIOS, adjust the boot sequence so Windows appears first; it should start without a Linux option. Navigate to power settings, select advanced options (possibly UAC), turn off fast startup and shutdown, then reset the boot order to place Windows first. You should regain access to your Windows files. There might be a method to enable smooth dual booting, though I don't recall it. Perhaps reinstalling Kubuntu at this stage could restore normal dual boot functionality.

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03-04-2016, 11:00 PM
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The system doesn’t allow starting Windows from the BIOS. Booting requires using the HDD, CD-ROM, or USB drive. The Windows partition remains read-only since the OS entered hibernation when I asked to shut down. It seems GRUB wasn’t able to include Windows in its boot options due to this read-only state. In the GRUB configuration, the correct path is present, but access might be blocked because of the restriction.
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Irontaildragon
03-04-2016, 11:00 PM #5

The system doesn’t allow starting Windows from the BIOS. Booting requires using the HDD, CD-ROM, or USB drive. The Windows partition remains read-only since the OS entered hibernation when I asked to shut down. It seems GRUB wasn’t able to include Windows in its boot options due to this read-only state. In the GRUB configuration, the correct path is present, but access might be blocked because of the restriction.

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Moonberry011
Junior Member
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03-05-2016, 07:06 AM
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For years I maintained a professional habit of keeping the Windows version of my PC running smoothly, even after breaking off our relationship with Microsoft about fifteen years prior. But recently, upon finding out that a Lenovo machine had switched from Windows 7 to Windows 10—without any notice or reboot—I realized it was time to reset. I removed all Microsoft software and set up Xubuntu 16.04 on the empty hard drive, then tried to install Lubuntu 16.04 in a dual-boot setup. After launching Xubuntu, I attempted to use the installer for Lubuntu, which offered an option to pair it with the existing OS. The interface was confusing, and I struggled to understand how it should function, especially since I wasn’t familiar with Grub’s installation process. Eventually, I booted into Lubuntu by chance, but when trying to switch back to Xubuntu, I couldn’t locate a way out. It’s frustrating that achieving a clean dual-boot experience felt like an impossible task. Overall, it’s disappointing that Microsoft can’t accommodate users in the Linux community, especially when we’re seeking flexibility across devices.
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Moonberry011
03-05-2016, 07:06 AM #6

For years I maintained a professional habit of keeping the Windows version of my PC running smoothly, even after breaking off our relationship with Microsoft about fifteen years prior. But recently, upon finding out that a Lenovo machine had switched from Windows 7 to Windows 10—without any notice or reboot—I realized it was time to reset. I removed all Microsoft software and set up Xubuntu 16.04 on the empty hard drive, then tried to install Lubuntu 16.04 in a dual-boot setup. After launching Xubuntu, I attempted to use the installer for Lubuntu, which offered an option to pair it with the existing OS. The interface was confusing, and I struggled to understand how it should function, especially since I wasn’t familiar with Grub’s installation process. Eventually, I booted into Lubuntu by chance, but when trying to switch back to Xubuntu, I couldn’t locate a way out. It’s frustrating that achieving a clean dual-boot experience felt like an impossible task. Overall, it’s disappointing that Microsoft can’t accommodate users in the Linux community, especially when we’re seeking flexibility across devices.

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lizzard89
Senior Member
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03-15-2016, 03:22 AM
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Bootrec shows no Windows setup detected. The bcdebit command isn’t available. Fixing the master boot record and recovery options didn’t help. This is really frustrating.
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lizzard89
03-15-2016, 03:22 AM #7

Bootrec shows no Windows setup detected. The bcdebit command isn’t available. Fixing the master boot record and recovery options didn’t help. This is really frustrating.

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batabing47
Member
60
03-22-2016, 03:26 AM
#8
You currently connect to your NTFS partition through a specific method, and you’ve already created backups. The recovery partition exists on the same drive, but accessing it isn’t clear. Using the installation media should allow recovery if the partition is intact, though you’ll need to follow the appropriate steps for that process.
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batabing47
03-22-2016, 03:26 AM #8

You currently connect to your NTFS partition through a specific method, and you’ve already created backups. The recovery partition exists on the same drive, but accessing it isn’t clear. Using the installation media should allow recovery if the partition is intact, though you’ll need to follow the appropriate steps for that process.

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squareder
Member
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03-22-2016, 08:34 AM
#9
I’ll try this after everything is completely backed up. The external NTFS storage became read-only when using the live disc, and I’m working on resolving the issue now.
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squareder
03-22-2016, 08:34 AM #9

I’ll try this after everything is completely backed up. The external NTFS storage became read-only when using the live disc, and I’m working on resolving the issue now.

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03-22-2016, 02:17 PM
#10
I tried again and switched the path to bcdedit /export C:\windows\system32\bcedit. It detected the Windows installation during the next bootrec /rebuildbcd process. Unfortunately, I’m still unable to start Windows, even though I confirmed it should be added to the boot list.
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the_one_waffle
03-22-2016, 02:17 PM #10

I tried again and switched the path to bcdedit /export C:\windows\system32\bcedit. It detected the Windows installation during the next bootrec /rebuildbcd process. Unfortunately, I’m still unable to start Windows, even though I confirmed it should be added to the boot list.

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