F5F Stay Refreshed Hardware Desktop Select the appropriate RAM by checking the CL22 specification for your prebuilt system.

Select the appropriate RAM by checking the CL22 specification for your prebuilt system.

Select the appropriate RAM by checking the CL22 specification for your prebuilt system.

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Pickmaster12
Senior Member
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03-25-2016, 11:32 AM
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Hi, I recently acquired a HP prebuilt (TG01-2002in) with a single 16GB RAM stick and wanted to upgrade. I couldn't locate the exact RAM used in this model among available options. The current stick is a Samsung CL22 (M378A2K43EB1-CWE), 1x16GB. I explored alternatives like Crucial CT16G4DFD832A and another model, CT16G4DFRA32A, which Amazon lists as the latest but notes it can be either single or dual-ranked. I’m leaning toward the first option but was unsure due to similarities. Could someone clarify the differences between these Crucial RAM models? Also, a quick breakdown of the naming conventions would help me understand the distinctions better. Thanks! P.S. Current RAM info: https://imgur.com/a/nsjnsUA
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Pickmaster12
03-25-2016, 11:32 AM #1

Hi, I recently acquired a HP prebuilt (TG01-2002in) with a single 16GB RAM stick and wanted to upgrade. I couldn't locate the exact RAM used in this model among available options. The current stick is a Samsung CL22 (M378A2K43EB1-CWE), 1x16GB. I explored alternatives like Crucial CT16G4DFD832A and another model, CT16G4DFRA32A, which Amazon lists as the latest but notes it can be either single or dual-ranked. I’m leaning toward the first option but was unsure due to similarities. Could someone clarify the differences between these Crucial RAM models? Also, a quick breakdown of the naming conventions would help me understand the distinctions better. Thanks! P.S. Current RAM info: https://imgur.com/a/nsjnsUA

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KnightKing51
Member
170
03-31-2016, 12:44 PM
#2
Well, case 22 seems to be quite sluggish. I think they probably chose the least expensive RAM option available. Just remember not to repeat that choice if you have the means for something better.
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KnightKing51
03-31-2016, 12:44 PM #2

Well, case 22 seems to be quite sluggish. I think they probably chose the least expensive RAM option available. Just remember not to repeat that choice if you have the means for something better.

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_Shon
Junior Member
1
03-31-2016, 02:32 PM
#3
Thanks for the update. The HP 8906 doesn’t support XMP, and adding another RAM would force it to use its default clock speed. Since I’m not familiar with RAM timings, I’d appreciate guidance on selecting the correct module for this board. I’m willing to swap if you can recommend the right fit.
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_Shon
03-31-2016, 02:32 PM #3

Thanks for the update. The HP 8906 doesn’t support XMP, and adding another RAM would force it to use its default clock speed. Since I’m not familiar with RAM timings, I’d appreciate guidance on selecting the correct module for this board. I’m willing to swap if you can recommend the right fit.

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Treat21
Junior Member
18
04-02-2016, 02:53 PM
#4
The two important components you discovered match in both velocity and timing. It’s preferable to choose the single-rank units among them. Single-rank units operate at a quicker cycle rate than dual-ranked ones. Nevertheless, CL22 tends to lag behind. Opt for the lowest CLxx value you can find.
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Treat21
04-02-2016, 02:53 PM #4

The two important components you discovered match in both velocity and timing. It’s preferable to choose the single-rank units among them. Single-rank units operate at a quicker cycle rate than dual-ranked ones. Nevertheless, CL22 tends to lag behind. Opt for the lowest CLxx value you can find.

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MinePro3
Junior Member
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04-02-2016, 03:29 PM
#5
I mentioned earlier that the board doesn't accept XMP profiles, and purchasing RAM with lower latency might cause it to run at its standard clock speeds. (That's the information they provided.) Board link: https://imgur.com/El2Drc5
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MinePro3
04-02-2016, 03:29 PM #5

I mentioned earlier that the board doesn't accept XMP profiles, and purchasing RAM with lower latency might cause it to run at its standard clock speeds. (That's the information they provided.) Board link: https://imgur.com/El2Drc5

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Anna908
Junior Member
30
04-03-2016, 12:14 AM
#6
It’s better to have lower timings for speed. The higher clock speeds still matter. For instance, a 14th generation 3200MHz DDR4 chip is faster than a 16th generation 3600MHz one. The 14th is generally the best option for DDR4, though it’s less common to find it. I have DDR3 which runs slower but is cheaper. The 22nd generation DDR4 is slow. You aim for the maximum speed your motherboard supports, but lower CAS numbers can still boost performance. You might see that memory with similar speeds but lower CAS costs more. That’s why. DDR5 offers higher CAS rates than DDR4 and also much higher speeds, starting around 4800MHz. There are many CAS variants available. The most common reference is just the first number or the first four digits.
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Anna908
04-03-2016, 12:14 AM #6

It’s better to have lower timings for speed. The higher clock speeds still matter. For instance, a 14th generation 3200MHz DDR4 chip is faster than a 16th generation 3600MHz one. The 14th is generally the best option for DDR4, though it’s less common to find it. I have DDR3 which runs slower but is cheaper. The 22nd generation DDR4 is slow. You aim for the maximum speed your motherboard supports, but lower CAS numbers can still boost performance. You might see that memory with similar speeds but lower CAS costs more. That’s why. DDR5 offers higher CAS rates than DDR4 and also much higher speeds, starting around 4800MHz. There are many CAS variants available. The most common reference is just the first number or the first four digits.

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oofgeg
Member
97
04-03-2016, 02:17 AM
#7
Imagine I install a CL16 RAM that supports up to 3200Mhz, but only hits that speed when XMP is turned on. In that case, it might actually run around 2666 or 2133Mhz at CL16. Now compare that with a CL22 chip that defaults to 3200Mhz. Which one would perform better? Let me know if you're mistaken. Also, note that you mentioned using a Ryzen processor.
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oofgeg
04-03-2016, 02:17 AM #7

Imagine I install a CL16 RAM that supports up to 3200Mhz, but only hits that speed when XMP is turned on. In that case, it might actually run around 2666 or 2133Mhz at CL16. Now compare that with a CL22 chip that defaults to 3200Mhz. Which one would perform better? Let me know if you're mistaken. Also, note that you mentioned using a Ryzen processor.

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mccoop03
Posting Freak
910
04-06-2016, 07:21 PM
#8
3200C16 doesn't function properly. It requires 1.35V, whereas your setup supports 1.2V. The 3200C20 at 1.2V is the most efficient option available.
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mccoop03
04-06-2016, 07:21 PM #8

3200C16 doesn't function properly. It requires 1.35V, whereas your setup supports 1.2V. The 3200C20 at 1.2V is the most efficient option available.

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t80skull
Member
59
04-06-2016, 07:51 PM
#9
It looks like you're considering picking between two important CL22 sticks because C20 isn't readily available nearby.
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t80skull
04-06-2016, 07:51 PM #9

It looks like you're considering picking between two important CL22 sticks because C20 isn't readily available nearby.

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Th3SilentBang
Junior Member
31
04-06-2016, 10:02 PM
#10
Many DDR4-s under-volt happily too btw... Though no guarantee, true
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Th3SilentBang
04-06-2016, 10:02 PM #10

Many DDR4-s under-volt happily too btw... Though no guarantee, true

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