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s about overclocking and voltage settings for Ryzen 7 2700x, especially regarding achieving 4.2 with safe voltages

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02-04-2019, 09:21 PM
#21
Take a look at your RAM with a program like Thaiphoon Burner
https://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/Memo...rner.shtml
and see it's SPD/XMP settings.
DOCP doesn't really follow XMP exactly but there's enough flexibility to find some middle ground.
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_The_Aquarius_
02-04-2019, 09:21 PM #21

Take a look at your RAM with a program like Thaiphoon Burner
https://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/Memo...rner.shtml
and see it's SPD/XMP settings.
DOCP doesn't really follow XMP exactly but there's enough flexibility to find some middle ground.

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I_Kawaii_I
Junior Member
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02-19-2019, 06:49 AM
#22
I own the Thaiphoon burner, the upgraded version that lets you ALTER the hard-coded profiles, though I’m not sure how this connects to what we’re discussing. Perhaps it does matter, since it still feels like there’s a thread in all this that I might be missing, and you seem to be trying to make sense of it.

I understand that most memory modules come with several predefined profiles. Each profile includes fixed settings for speed, voltage, primary, secondary, and tertiary timings. Combining or adjusting any of these isn’t recommended. These configurations are meant to be applied fully if a specific profile is chosen. The default settings or any XMP/AMP/A-XMP/DOCP profiles set are not meant to allow manual changes.

When you modify even one setting, you leave yourself outside the profile’s parameters and enter a manual or overclocked mode. To me, DOCP simply means ASUS adapting the XMP profile to its own rules—something many boards do if you keep speed and voltage set to Auto unless you change them. DOCP is more intricate than that, but I think that captures the main idea.

I’ll confess, DOCP is one memory setting area I haven’t worked with closely, yet I’ve read a lot about it and have some experience with similar configurations on most consumer systems. Memory settings become much more complex on server or enterprise hardware.
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I_Kawaii_I
02-19-2019, 06:49 AM #22

I own the Thaiphoon burner, the upgraded version that lets you ALTER the hard-coded profiles, though I’m not sure how this connects to what we’re discussing. Perhaps it does matter, since it still feels like there’s a thread in all this that I might be missing, and you seem to be trying to make sense of it.

I understand that most memory modules come with several predefined profiles. Each profile includes fixed settings for speed, voltage, primary, secondary, and tertiary timings. Combining or adjusting any of these isn’t recommended. These configurations are meant to be applied fully if a specific profile is chosen. The default settings or any XMP/AMP/A-XMP/DOCP profiles set are not meant to allow manual changes.

When you modify even one setting, you leave yourself outside the profile’s parameters and enter a manual or overclocked mode. To me, DOCP simply means ASUS adapting the XMP profile to its own rules—something many boards do if you keep speed and voltage set to Auto unless you change them. DOCP is more intricate than that, but I think that captures the main idea.

I’ll confess, DOCP is one memory setting area I haven’t worked with closely, yet I’ve read a lot about it and have some experience with similar configurations on most consumer systems. Memory settings become much more complex on server or enterprise hardware.

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CatSnapGaming
Junior Member
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03-03-2019, 11:10 PM
#23
XMP are merely presets and not a strict rule, so they won't interfere if you apply settings outside the XMP profile. For this Kingston RAM (Kingston), the XMP profile for 3602MHz requires Cl18, while 3002MHz needs Cl16. Interestingly, it functions at 3600MHz with CL16. DOCP 3000 maintains CL16 even when the memory frequency is adjusted to 3600MHz.
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CatSnapGaming
03-03-2019, 11:10 PM #23

XMP are merely presets and not a strict rule, so they won't interfere if you apply settings outside the XMP profile. For this Kingston RAM (Kingston), the XMP profile for 3602MHz requires Cl18, while 3002MHz needs Cl16. Interestingly, it functions at 3600MHz with CL16. DOCP 3000 maintains CL16 even when the memory frequency is adjusted to 3600MHz.

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CelticGila
Senior Member
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03-08-2019, 03:13 AM
#24
Yeah, like I said, it's what the MANUFACTURER has determined to be the most likely stable configuration for a given set of sticks based on the tested properies of a given module configuration. Of course you can manually (Or automatically) make adjustments to those settings but the MOST probably configuration that will be stable is the exact configuration laid out by the profile, or something lower and looser that the board/MC can train the configuration to based on it's own algorithms and tables.
But I think this conversation has gone beyond it's relevance to this thread, so lets get back on track if we haven't already chased the OP off. I don't think the level of discussion is really applicable to the current dilemma.
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CelticGila
03-08-2019, 03:13 AM #24

Yeah, like I said, it's what the MANUFACTURER has determined to be the most likely stable configuration for a given set of sticks based on the tested properies of a given module configuration. Of course you can manually (Or automatically) make adjustments to those settings but the MOST probably configuration that will be stable is the exact configuration laid out by the profile, or something lower and looser that the board/MC can train the configuration to based on it's own algorithms and tables.
But I think this conversation has gone beyond it's relevance to this thread, so lets get back on track if we haven't already chased the OP off. I don't think the level of discussion is really applicable to the current dilemma.

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ItzMaccaPlayz
Junior Member
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03-13-2019, 01:06 AM
#25
I did what you instructed, Redneck5439, and now my PC isn't booting properly :/
Update: after removing the GPU and the motherboard battery, it worked.
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ItzMaccaPlayz
03-13-2019, 01:06 AM #25

I did what you instructed, Redneck5439, and now my PC isn't booting properly :/
Update: after removing the GPU and the motherboard battery, it worked.

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