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Ryzen voltages are quite a mystery! What do you mean by "@#$%?"

Ryzen voltages are quite a mystery! What do you mean by "@#$%?"

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Caribbean_Blue
Senior Member
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06-04-2019, 05:35 PM
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Initially, the system ran with a high vcore, which affected stability and temperatures. Adjusting it to a fixed value improved performance but not without issues. Experimenting with offset settings led to better Cinebench scores, showing how different voltages impact CPU behavior. The results highlight the complexity of balancing voltage, temperature, and performance.
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Caribbean_Blue
06-04-2019, 05:35 PM #1

Initially, the system ran with a high vcore, which affected stability and temperatures. Adjusting it to a fixed value improved performance but not without issues. Experimenting with offset settings led to better Cinebench scores, showing how different voltages impact CPU behavior. The results highlight the complexity of balancing voltage, temperature, and performance.

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hampus_1
Member
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06-04-2019, 06:47 PM
#2
Stock voltage may reach up to 1.47V during brief, single-threaded tasks, but it typically stays near 1.3V under heavy core workloads such as Prime95 smallFFT. The recommendation is mainly for general use, not just for peak stress scenarios. It changes a lot depending on settings, and sometimes the system freezes if something goes wrong. Clearing CMOS often helps restore normal operation. This adjustment prevents shutdowns when voltage drops too low, though it can only do so much—extreme cases may still cause failure. The limits are also due to power and current constraints (TDC EDC PPT).
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hampus_1
06-04-2019, 06:47 PM #2

Stock voltage may reach up to 1.47V during brief, single-threaded tasks, but it typically stays near 1.3V under heavy core workloads such as Prime95 smallFFT. The recommendation is mainly for general use, not just for peak stress scenarios. It changes a lot depending on settings, and sometimes the system freezes if something goes wrong. Clearing CMOS often helps restore normal operation. This adjustment prevents shutdowns when voltage drops too low, though it can only do so much—extreme cases may still cause failure. The limits are also due to power and current constraints (TDC EDC PPT).

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06-17-2019, 09:10 PM
#3
To maintain stable voltage while handling varying loads, adjust your power management settings. Ensure the system supports dynamic voltage scaling and consider enabling features like idle power reduction. The high core voltage you observed is likely a design choice for efficiency under load, but it can drop when the system is idle to save energy.
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Jazzy_Games123
06-17-2019, 09:10 PM #3

To maintain stable voltage while handling varying loads, adjust your power management settings. Ensure the system supports dynamic voltage scaling and consider enabling features like idle power reduction. The high core voltage you observed is likely a design choice for efficiency under load, but it can drop when the system is idle to save energy.

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DAEPICME
Junior Member
28
06-18-2019, 09:44 PM
#4
Zen 2 represents a distinct design approach, differing notably from previous versions and Zen+. It required several adjustments for AMD to align the microcode properly with motherboards, often altering how the Windows CPU scheduler functions before the processors performed as expected. Key points include ensuring your system uses the most recent BIOS and installing the AMD chipset driver directly from AMD.com. Make sure you're running Windows 10 version 1903 or later. Even after these steps, unusual behavior—such as excessive power usage for simple tasks—can occur, which is typical. AMD advises using Ryzen Master exclusively to monitor Zen 2 CPUs; other tools may produce inaccurate readings or artificially boost workloads by reading data too quickly.
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DAEPICME
06-18-2019, 09:44 PM #4

Zen 2 represents a distinct design approach, differing notably from previous versions and Zen+. It required several adjustments for AMD to align the microcode properly with motherboards, often altering how the Windows CPU scheduler functions before the processors performed as expected. Key points include ensuring your system uses the most recent BIOS and installing the AMD chipset driver directly from AMD.com. Make sure you're running Windows 10 version 1903 or later. Even after these steps, unusual behavior—such as excessive power usage for simple tasks—can occur, which is typical. AMD advises using Ryzen Master exclusively to monitor Zen 2 CPUs; other tools may produce inaccurate readings or artificially boost workloads by reading data too quickly.

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CaptKrazy
Member
234
06-18-2019, 10:14 PM
#5
Remember the requirement for high voltage with single core tasks? It’s hard to achieve more single-threaded and lightweight performance than simple mouse movement. Ryzen’s power management aims to shut down parts of the core instead of reducing voltage to save energy (as Intel does), so default settings usually don’t lower voltage. I think Zen and Zen+ could potentially reduce voltage even when doing nothing, by disabling background tasks and minimizing mouse activity—Zen 2 might be able to do that too.
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CaptKrazy
06-18-2019, 10:14 PM #5

Remember the requirement for high voltage with single core tasks? It’s hard to achieve more single-threaded and lightweight performance than simple mouse movement. Ryzen’s power management aims to shut down parts of the core instead of reducing voltage to save energy (as Intel does), so default settings usually don’t lower voltage. I think Zen and Zen+ could potentially reduce voltage even when doing nothing, by disabling background tasks and minimizing mouse activity—Zen 2 might be able to do that too.

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khaledkb_
Senior Member
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06-19-2019, 07:07 PM
#6
Keep it running without interference and avoid handling anything unclear or causing anxiety
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khaledkb_
06-19-2019, 07:07 PM #6

Keep it running without interference and avoid handling anything unclear or causing anxiety

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Amtrak10
Senior Member
639
06-20-2019, 03:51 AM
#7
Sure, happy to assist! Just let me know what you need next.
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Amtrak10
06-20-2019, 03:51 AM #7

Sure, happy to assist! Just let me know what you need next.

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06-21-2019, 11:41 AM
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Add more details about the situation. It depends on whether the setup uses just two cores for light tasks or if it's optimized for efficiency. At 1.4V with two cores, performance remains better than eight cores running at 1.3V, which helps manage heat output.
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MatheusSUICIDA
06-21-2019, 11:41 AM #8

Add more details about the situation. It depends on whether the setup uses just two cores for light tasks or if it's optimized for efficiency. At 1.4V with two cores, performance remains better than eight cores running at 1.3V, which helps manage heat output.

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saukeuchiuchi
Senior Member
621
06-21-2019, 07:08 PM
#9
Would you rather share your confusion on forums and express frustration while continuing to try, or would you rather avoid it by not engaging at all? The developers behind this system are far more capable than anyone we are combined so please refrain from pretending you understand what you built.
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saukeuchiuchi
06-21-2019, 07:08 PM #9

Would you rather share your confusion on forums and express frustration while continuing to try, or would you rather avoid it by not engaging at all? The developers behind this system are far more capable than anyone we are combined so please refrain from pretending you understand what you built.

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Pilli_mehu
Member
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06-22-2019, 01:38 AM
#10
People on forums often share their thoughts about how things function. You're right to question those ideas—don't take them at face value.
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Pilli_mehu
06-22-2019, 01:38 AM #10

People on forums often share their thoughts about how things function. You're right to question those ideas—don't take them at face value.

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