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Ryzen RAM speeds a myth?

Ryzen RAM speeds a myth?

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DriveIn
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05-01-2016, 12:38 PM
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I have some reservations about this, I believe I fit the typical gamer profile and would like to know if I’m being tricked (which seems more likely). I already grasp the concept, but my tests haven’t shown any clear proof it’s accurate—my first round covered around 10 games and benchmarks, with no noticeable gap between 2933 and 3200. Your point simplifies things to me measuring something incorrectly, which doesn’t seem strong. I think about using a different board just in case, maybe mine isn’t working properly, but that’s not my situation. It’s possible there are exceptions, but overall it doesn’t seem significant. Also, I’ve seen that if I don’t enable XMP auto downclocks, it’s fine and I’ll keep that setting for now since performance hasn’t changed much. Energy use and heat are probably the bigger concerns here.
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DriveIn
05-01-2016, 12:38 PM #21

I have some reservations about this, I believe I fit the typical gamer profile and would like to know if I’m being tricked (which seems more likely). I already grasp the concept, but my tests haven’t shown any clear proof it’s accurate—my first round covered around 10 games and benchmarks, with no noticeable gap between 2933 and 3200. Your point simplifies things to me measuring something incorrectly, which doesn’t seem strong. I think about using a different board just in case, maybe mine isn’t working properly, but that’s not my situation. It’s possible there are exceptions, but overall it doesn’t seem significant. Also, I’ve seen that if I don’t enable XMP auto downclocks, it’s fine and I’ll keep that setting for now since performance hasn’t changed much. Energy use and heat are probably the bigger concerns here.

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RyanH2004
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05-01-2016, 12:38 PM
#22
I believe your evaluation has two main issues: first, your testing lacks scientific rigor due to uncontrolled variables, and second, the results aren't statistically significant because the sample size is too small. It's similar to claiming the sun doesn't exist just because you saw it disappear once.
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RyanH2004
05-01-2016, 12:38 PM #22

I believe your evaluation has two main issues: first, your testing lacks scientific rigor due to uncontrolled variables, and second, the results aren't statistically significant because the sample size is too small. It's similar to claiming the sun doesn't exist just because you saw it disappear once.

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diamonddan24
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05-01-2016, 12:38 PM
#23
So a YouTube channel with live chat and merchandise seems more "scientific"? I wasn't sure about that myself. I didn't claim my work was scientific—more like, "Wait a second... why do I see no difference when everyone says there *is* one?" At what point does it matter? I've tried over 10 games (the first time was two back-to-back runs of the same benchmarks over two days, and I stopped testing afterward because the results were clear). It's important to me whether the idea that faster RAM directly boosts FPS is actually wrong, or if something is off with my motherboard. I don't think setting XMP and reading numbers is rocket science—it's just tricky to mess up.
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diamonddan24
05-01-2016, 12:38 PM #23

So a YouTube channel with live chat and merchandise seems more "scientific"? I wasn't sure about that myself. I didn't claim my work was scientific—more like, "Wait a second... why do I see no difference when everyone says there *is* one?" At what point does it matter? I've tried over 10 games (the first time was two back-to-back runs of the same benchmarks over two days, and I stopped testing afterward because the results were clear). It's important to me whether the idea that faster RAM directly boosts FPS is actually wrong, or if something is off with my motherboard. I don't think setting XMP and reading numbers is rocket science—it's just tricky to mess up.

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TorJules
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05-01-2016, 12:38 PM
#24
The setup you're using with a 3200G is showing limitations mainly due to CPU constraints rather than RAM capacity. It seems the hardware isn't powerful enough for the tasks at hand. Switching to higher frequency memory could improve performance across various applications, not just on Ryzen or Intel chips. The gains depend heavily on the specific workload, so results may differ. Your approach of relying on a single test case isn't sufficient for solid conclusions. Proper evaluation should consider multiple variables and scenarios. I recommend expanding your testing to cover diverse games and engines while keeping conditions consistent. Once you gather more comprehensive data, I'll reassess your findings. For now, your observations hold some truth, but higher frequency memory still provides advantages. On my system, boosting RAM to 3200MHz with XMP settings has noticeably improved iGPU performance compared to lower speeds.
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TorJules
05-01-2016, 12:38 PM #24

The setup you're using with a 3200G is showing limitations mainly due to CPU constraints rather than RAM capacity. It seems the hardware isn't powerful enough for the tasks at hand. Switching to higher frequency memory could improve performance across various applications, not just on Ryzen or Intel chips. The gains depend heavily on the specific workload, so results may differ. Your approach of relying on a single test case isn't sufficient for solid conclusions. Proper evaluation should consider multiple variables and scenarios. I recommend expanding your testing to cover diverse games and engines while keeping conditions consistent. Once you gather more comprehensive data, I'll reassess your findings. For now, your observations hold some truth, but higher frequency memory still provides advantages. On my system, boosting RAM to 3200MHz with XMP settings has noticeably improved iGPU performance compared to lower speeds.

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stuff
Member
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05-01-2016, 12:38 PM
#25
Consider trying Minecraft Java. It demands a lot of CPU power. When I lowered my Ryzen 5 3600 to 3.4 GHz to prevent overheating, performance dropped significantly compared to when it ran at 4.3 GHz. At 4.3, I achieved over 600 frames per second. At 3.4, I managed only around 250. For testing, I set my RAM to 2133 and measured the speeds. The numbers varied a lot—around 140 FPS with 3.4, about 300 with 4.3, and up to 800 with 3200+3.4. This isn’t a strict rule, but it shows how sensitive performance is to clock speed. My graphics card is quite old (GTX 650 Ti, boosted then stock). Maybe you could give it a shot? Java offers a free trial if you’re interested.
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stuff
05-01-2016, 12:38 PM #25

Consider trying Minecraft Java. It demands a lot of CPU power. When I lowered my Ryzen 5 3600 to 3.4 GHz to prevent overheating, performance dropped significantly compared to when it ran at 4.3 GHz. At 4.3, I achieved over 600 frames per second. At 3.4, I managed only around 250. For testing, I set my RAM to 2133 and measured the speeds. The numbers varied a lot—around 140 FPS with 3.4, about 300 with 4.3, and up to 800 with 3200+3.4. This isn’t a strict rule, but it shows how sensitive performance is to clock speed. My graphics card is quite old (GTX 650 Ti, boosted then stock). Maybe you could give it a shot? Java offers a free trial if you’re interested.

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