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Ryzen 7 3800X with 3800MHz RAM or Ryzen 7 4400MHz with 4400MHz RAM options available.

Ryzen 7 3800X with 3800MHz RAM or Ryzen 7 4400MHz with 4400MHz RAM options available.

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m4xesh3pard
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10-14-2019, 07:34 PM
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I was thinking about checking my setup earlier, but I didn’t realize how important RAM speed really is. It turned out to be more complex than I thought. I assembled a system assuming quicker RAM would let the CPU run faster. That’s why I bought four 4400MHz sticks. Unfortunately, I couldn’t push it past 2133MHz. I saw the same issue elsewhere online. I’m getting confused by all the numbers and voltages, and I’ve had to reset the BIOS multiple times because it didn’t work right. Now I know I can’t hit the full 4400MHz. If anyone could help bring it up to at least 3200 or 3800, I’d really appreciate it. I’m no longer in the return window and don’t want to fight the store over parts that didn’t match what I asked for. Build: Ryzen 7 3800X4x8GB Patriot Viper 4400 Asus TUF Gaming X570 -PLUS
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m4xesh3pard
10-14-2019, 07:34 PM #1

I was thinking about checking my setup earlier, but I didn’t realize how important RAM speed really is. It turned out to be more complex than I thought. I assembled a system assuming quicker RAM would let the CPU run faster. That’s why I bought four 4400MHz sticks. Unfortunately, I couldn’t push it past 2133MHz. I saw the same issue elsewhere online. I’m getting confused by all the numbers and voltages, and I’ve had to reset the BIOS multiple times because it didn’t work right. Now I know I can’t hit the full 4400MHz. If anyone could help bring it up to at least 3200 or 3800, I’d really appreciate it. I’m no longer in the return window and don’t want to fight the store over parts that didn’t match what I asked for. Build: Ryzen 7 3800X4x8GB Patriot Viper 4400 Asus TUF Gaming X570 -PLUS

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Some_Dunkus
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10-15-2019, 03:26 AM
#2
The internet recommends turning on docp, similar to XMP.
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Some_Dunkus
10-15-2019, 03:26 AM #2

The internet recommends turning on docp, similar to XMP.

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coronahh
Junior Member
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10-16-2019, 10:18 AM
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Have you explored XMP/DOCP settings? If not, consider doing so. If it fails, your CPU's IMC or motherboard layout might be limiting performance. Turn on XMP/DOCP and lower RAM speed to around 4000, keeping other settings unchanged. This could potentially help. If that doesn't work, try 3800. Additionally, there appears to be a direct fclock adjustment for Ryzen processors—though I'm not very familiar with the details. At this stage, let's check if you can achieve "normal fast" speeds instead of extremely high rates.
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coronahh
10-16-2019, 10:18 AM #3

Have you explored XMP/DOCP settings? If not, consider doing so. If it fails, your CPU's IMC or motherboard layout might be limiting performance. Turn on XMP/DOCP and lower RAM speed to around 4000, keeping other settings unchanged. This could potentially help. If that doesn't work, try 3800. Additionally, there appears to be a direct fclock adjustment for Ryzen processors—though I'm not very familiar with the details. At this stage, let's check if you can achieve "normal fast" speeds instead of extremely high rates.

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philipvans
Junior Member
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10-19-2019, 02:28 PM
#4
I reached out to LIGISTX and suedseefrucht. Previously, I used DOCP but had to adjust the settings myself. At 3800 it crashed twice before restarting, which is why I’m satisfied now.
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philipvans
10-19-2019, 02:28 PM #4

I reached out to LIGISTX and suedseefrucht. Previously, I used DOCP but had to adjust the settings myself. At 3800 it crashed twice before restarting, which is why I’m satisfied now.

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cepacolera
Junior Member
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10-20-2019, 08:46 AM
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Several elements are involved here. High speeds like 4400Mhz are difficult to achieve. Not every motherboard and CPU pairing can manage that, and even then problems may arise. For tasks exceeding 4000Mhz, make sure the DIMMs match your motherboard’s specifications—otherwise it could cause issues. Additionally, these clock rates can be problematic with Ryzen processors. The chip is built from chiplets with separate core groups, and communication between them uses AMD’s Infinity Fabric, which operates at its own frequency called FCLK. Ryzen performs best when FCLK aligns perfectly with RAM speed—typically half the data rate. In practice, 4400Mhz translates to around 2200Mhz, meaning FCLK should also be 2200Mhz. But the standard limit is 1800Mhz, and even higher (up to 1900Mhz or more) is rare and risky. If RAM speeds don’t match FCLK, performance drops to half. Therefore, for Ryzen CPUs, anything above roughly 3800MHz tends to be less efficient than slower RAM options.
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cepacolera
10-20-2019, 08:46 AM #5

Several elements are involved here. High speeds like 4400Mhz are difficult to achieve. Not every motherboard and CPU pairing can manage that, and even then problems may arise. For tasks exceeding 4000Mhz, make sure the DIMMs match your motherboard’s specifications—otherwise it could cause issues. Additionally, these clock rates can be problematic with Ryzen processors. The chip is built from chiplets with separate core groups, and communication between them uses AMD’s Infinity Fabric, which operates at its own frequency called FCLK. Ryzen performs best when FCLK aligns perfectly with RAM speed—typically half the data rate. In practice, 4400Mhz translates to around 2200Mhz, meaning FCLK should also be 2200Mhz. But the standard limit is 1800Mhz, and even higher (up to 1900Mhz or more) is rare and risky. If RAM speeds don’t match FCLK, performance drops to half. Therefore, for Ryzen CPUs, anything above roughly 3800MHz tends to be less efficient than slower RAM options.

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matluffy84
Junior Member
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10-24-2019, 09:45 AM
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Adjusting the speed settings can help boost performance. Cl16 at lower speeds often works well. Ryzen thrives on quick response times.
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matluffy84
10-24-2019, 09:45 AM #6

Adjusting the speed settings can help boost performance. Cl16 at lower speeds often works well. Ryzen thrives on quick response times.

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DiamondXX101
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10-24-2019, 11:15 AM
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It's noted that 4400 RAM may not be accessible for many reasons, but the key concern is the value you'll gain from it. A helpful guide on this topic is available online.
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DiamondXX101
10-24-2019, 11:15 AM #7

It's noted that 4400 RAM may not be accessible for many reasons, but the key concern is the value you'll gain from it. A helpful guide on this topic is available online.