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Ryzen 5800X is a high-performance processor model.

Ryzen 5800X is a high-performance processor model.

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SuperPieGames
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03-31-2020, 05:57 PM
#1
Consider the current value versus potential future savings when deciding whether to purchase the Ryzen 5800X now or later.
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SuperPieGames
03-31-2020, 05:57 PM #1

Consider the current value versus potential future savings when deciding whether to purchase the Ryzen 5800X now or later.

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tlr13579
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03-31-2020, 07:14 PM
#2
For what purpose? It's about gaming. At 7600x the minimum cost is $300. A 5800x setup works just as well and delivers solid performance without needing the newest gear.
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tlr13579
03-31-2020, 07:14 PM #2

For what purpose? It's about gaming. At 7600x the minimum cost is $300. A 5800x setup works just as well and delivers solid performance without needing the newest gear.

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carlobolla
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04-03-2020, 09:02 AM
#3
Avoid cheap used boards and the poor-quality DDR5 chips that won’t keep up for years. The current market for DDR5 is still immature, and prices will likely drop soon.
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carlobolla
04-03-2020, 09:02 AM #3

Avoid cheap used boards and the poor-quality DDR5 chips that won’t keep up for years. The current market for DDR5 is still immature, and prices will likely drop soon.

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Freakiiianyx3
Senior Member
694
04-04-2020, 01:16 AM
#4
The situation is clear: AM5 is just around the horizon, but it comes with hidden expenses. It demands premium PCIe4 M.2 drives and DDR5 memory, both of which are excessive for current needs and offer poor value. And don’t forget the initial challenges—BIOS and compatibility problems often emerge late in development. @Somerandomtechyboi frequently mentions that fast RAM can be misleading, and they’re correct. DDR4 works fine, while anything above 3200 is unnecessary and costly. It’s amusing to see those who claimed the 5800X/5900X/5950X were overpriced now push for AM5. Really? Think carefully, everyone. Still, my experience shows that a 5900X with OC RTX3060ti, WD Blue SN570 PCIe3 M.2 and DDR4-3200 (adjusted for board specs) delivers smooth performance. It’s stable, efficient, and runs well without excessive power draw. I haven’t seen CPU usage over 3%, so a 5800X paired with a 3070 or 3080 would be a solid choice for the future. Building costs have dropped to around $2100 today, making it a great value if you prefer a low-maintenance setup. Major changes like replacing the case for better airflow led me to switch cases, and I’m impressed by the Fractal Pop Air / XL Air options. For others, upgrading to a 5800X and moving to a 3090/3080ti under $2600 could work well. Keep in mind, both RAM kits are board-compatible, but the Viper 4 Blackout “CUSTOM” is what I used. The Viper Steel has a different cooling solution and is easier to source. I changed my stock fans to Corsair for six total fans, though only a few are available separately at first. If you buy a case and need more fans, consider offering shipping credit—my four remain in stock. https://pcpartpicker.com/user/An0maly197...iew=9s2npg Edited September 5, 2022 by An0maly_76 Updated info
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Freakiiianyx3
04-04-2020, 01:16 AM #4

The situation is clear: AM5 is just around the horizon, but it comes with hidden expenses. It demands premium PCIe4 M.2 drives and DDR5 memory, both of which are excessive for current needs and offer poor value. And don’t forget the initial challenges—BIOS and compatibility problems often emerge late in development. @Somerandomtechyboi frequently mentions that fast RAM can be misleading, and they’re correct. DDR4 works fine, while anything above 3200 is unnecessary and costly. It’s amusing to see those who claimed the 5800X/5900X/5950X were overpriced now push for AM5. Really? Think carefully, everyone. Still, my experience shows that a 5900X with OC RTX3060ti, WD Blue SN570 PCIe3 M.2 and DDR4-3200 (adjusted for board specs) delivers smooth performance. It’s stable, efficient, and runs well without excessive power draw. I haven’t seen CPU usage over 3%, so a 5800X paired with a 3070 or 3080 would be a solid choice for the future. Building costs have dropped to around $2100 today, making it a great value if you prefer a low-maintenance setup. Major changes like replacing the case for better airflow led me to switch cases, and I’m impressed by the Fractal Pop Air / XL Air options. For others, upgrading to a 5800X and moving to a 3090/3080ti under $2600 could work well. Keep in mind, both RAM kits are board-compatible, but the Viper 4 Blackout “CUSTOM” is what I used. The Viper Steel has a different cooling solution and is easier to source. I changed my stock fans to Corsair for six total fans, though only a few are available separately at first. If you buy a case and need more fans, consider offering shipping credit—my four remain in stock. https://pcpartpicker.com/user/An0maly197...iew=9s2npg Edited September 5, 2022 by An0maly_76 Updated info

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MLGGirl54
Senior Member
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04-04-2020, 06:15 AM
#5
This isn't a strict rule, pushing prices up for unnecessary items would be a big mistake. These slow first-gen DDR5 chips will likely become outdated soon, especially since 7200 will become the norm later on. 3200, 3600, and 4000 CL16/18 offer better value at least for regular users. Technically, the best deals are usually found on basic PCBs from Samsungs with 8Gb DRAM or specialized chips with 8Gb revision and C9BJZ that provide strong performance (clock speeds over 4600) and easy clock tuning to lower variants like 3600 CL18 for under $20 in India. This tends to go to those who know how to adjust timings manually or who don’t mind doing it themselves.

Other segments are aimed at overclockers or people who don’t bother with optimization. They often target 3200-4000 CL14, 4400, or 4000-5333 variants—mostly not true primaries like Hynix DR/DDR. Some are stuck with low-cost options that barely meet minimum specs.

For those who understand RAM tricks or aren’t too lazy, tuning to 3600 CL18 for the same price is smart. Just keep in mind that voltage tweaks don’t always help much—real gains come from proper RAM selection and clock management.
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MLGGirl54
04-04-2020, 06:15 AM #5

This isn't a strict rule, pushing prices up for unnecessary items would be a big mistake. These slow first-gen DDR5 chips will likely become outdated soon, especially since 7200 will become the norm later on. 3200, 3600, and 4000 CL16/18 offer better value at least for regular users. Technically, the best deals are usually found on basic PCBs from Samsungs with 8Gb DRAM or specialized chips with 8Gb revision and C9BJZ that provide strong performance (clock speeds over 4600) and easy clock tuning to lower variants like 3600 CL18 for under $20 in India. This tends to go to those who know how to adjust timings manually or who don’t mind doing it themselves.

Other segments are aimed at overclockers or people who don’t bother with optimization. They often target 3200-4000 CL14, 4400, or 4000-5333 variants—mostly not true primaries like Hynix DR/DDR. Some are stuck with low-cost options that barely meet minimum specs.

For those who understand RAM tricks or aren’t too lazy, tuning to 3600 CL18 for the same price is smart. Just keep in mind that voltage tweaks don’t always help much—real gains come from proper RAM selection and clock management.

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04-05-2020, 09:55 AM
#6
I understand your view on being unnecessary, but which aspects do you think are essential? The PCIe4 storage? I've heard this often. Both articles suggest that top boards will require PCIe5, while lower-end ones might stick with PCIe4, at least according to the sources. Updated September 5, 2022 by An0maly_76
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Thegamingnerds
04-05-2020, 09:55 AM #6

I understand your view on being unnecessary, but which aspects do you think are essential? The PCIe4 storage? I've heard this often. Both articles suggest that top boards will require PCIe5, while lower-end ones might stick with PCIe4, at least according to the sources. Updated September 5, 2022 by An0maly_76

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HellNether
Senior Member
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04-22-2020, 07:55 PM
#7
It indicates lower-end boards will support PCIe 5.0 for storage, while other components will use PCIe 4.0. This means you can still use Gen3 in Gen4 or Gen5 slots regardless.
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HellNether
04-22-2020, 07:55 PM #7

It indicates lower-end boards will support PCIe 5.0 for storage, while other components will use PCIe 4.0. This means you can still use Gen3 in Gen4 or Gen5 slots regardless.

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NicolleSpacki
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04-22-2020, 11:21 PM
#8
Yes, backward compatibility remains relevant. The focus on misleading language like 'enforce' is a tactic used by some journalists to create false impressions about limitations.
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NicolleSpacki
04-22-2020, 11:21 PM #8

Yes, backward compatibility remains relevant. The focus on misleading language like 'enforce' is a tactic used by some journalists to create false impressions about limitations.

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Yestoy
Junior Member
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04-23-2020, 12:43 AM
#9
It looks like the phrasing is unclear. Would you like me to reword it for better clarity?
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Yestoy
04-23-2020, 12:43 AM #9

It looks like the phrasing is unclear. Would you like me to reword it for better clarity?

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ALECdaMAN123
Member
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04-23-2020, 08:16 AM
#10
It feels like AM4 has limited power compared to what’s expected. 5900X sounds excessive for casual gaming and browsing. For serious testing, the numbers become different, but when you adjust settings, it becomes incredibly powerful. Benchmarks show a strong performance, and tuning it makes it truly formidable. If someone claims it handles heavy use well, they might be either restricting its capabilities or overestimating its efficiency.
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ALECdaMAN123
04-23-2020, 08:16 AM #10

It feels like AM4 has limited power compared to what’s expected. 5900X sounds excessive for casual gaming and browsing. For serious testing, the numbers become different, but when you adjust settings, it becomes incredibly powerful. Benchmarks show a strong performance, and tuning it makes it truly formidable. If someone claims it handles heavy use well, they might be either restricting its capabilities or overestimating its efficiency.

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