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Ryzen 5 Overclocking problem

Ryzen 5 Overclocking problem

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Trillex07
Member
71
11-29-2017, 01:34 AM
#1
Hey everyone, I'm having an issue with overclocking. I set my Ryzen 5 1400 to 3.8Ghz at 1.35V, but now my games are freezing and crashing. I tried raising the voltage, but it didn't help. Can someone assist me?
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Trillex07
11-29-2017, 01:34 AM #1

Hey everyone, I'm having an issue with overclocking. I set my Ryzen 5 1400 to 3.8Ghz at 1.35V, but now my games are freezing and crashing. I tried raising the voltage, but it didn't help. Can someone assist me?

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DevilDoggy657
Senior Member
530
12-01-2017, 04:51 AM
#2
So here’s the information you’re after, from the link you shared.
I’m not really familiar with MSI products or their BIOS, so I can’t confirm everything.
The part about Load Line Calibration (LLC) is meant to boost your system’s output, giving a steadier voltage and more stable power delivery.
For overclockers, it’s usually recommended to set the CPU voltage to its maximum capacity or very close to it.
The main concept behind overclocking is trying different settings until you find what works best.
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DevilDoggy657
12-01-2017, 04:51 AM #2

So here’s the information you’re after, from the link you shared.
I’m not really familiar with MSI products or their BIOS, so I can’t confirm everything.
The part about Load Line Calibration (LLC) is meant to boost your system’s output, giving a steadier voltage and more stable power delivery.
For overclockers, it’s usually recommended to set the CPU voltage to its maximum capacity or very close to it.
The main concept behind overclocking is trying different settings until you find what works best.

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Windlander
Member
150
12-02-2017, 04:31 PM
#3
Could you provide a bit more detail about the issue? Also, let me know if you'd like to test performance for 5 minutes or an hour. What motherboard are you using? What is the current Load line calibration setting? Have you adjusted your memory overclocking settings? Which cooling method are you employing? What temperatures are being recorded? Which games are you running? There isn’t enough information to give a direct answer right now.
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Windlander
12-02-2017, 04:31 PM #3

Could you provide a bit more detail about the issue? Also, let me know if you'd like to test performance for 5 minutes or an hour. What motherboard are you using? What is the current Load line calibration setting? Have you adjusted your memory overclocking settings? Which cooling method are you employing? What temperatures are being recorded? Which games are you running? There isn’t enough information to give a direct answer right now.

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Psilocibin
Member
58
12-02-2017, 06:54 PM
#4
Yeah, about 5 out of 10 minutes in Watch Dogs 2 it doesn't matter, it happens in every game.
My motherboard is an MSI B350 PRO VDH, I didn't use the LLC. Just the DRAM Frequency (3000Mhz at 1.35v).
I overclocked on a stock cooler with idle temps between 40-45-55°C.
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Psilocibin
12-02-2017, 06:54 PM #4

Yeah, about 5 out of 10 minutes in Watch Dogs 2 it doesn't matter, it happens in every game.
My motherboard is an MSI B350 PRO VDH, I didn't use the LLC. Just the DRAM Frequency (3000Mhz at 1.35v).
I overclocked on a stock cooler with idle temps between 40-45-55°C.

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Muggy215
Member
147
12-02-2017, 11:15 PM
#5
these temperatures are really high, so I suggest reducing the clock speed and voltages to 1.3 and 3700mhz. It seems to run more smoothly.
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Muggy215
12-02-2017, 11:15 PM #5

these temperatures are really high, so I suggest reducing the clock speed and voltages to 1.3 and 3700mhz. It seems to run more smoothly.

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ilija
Member
206
12-18-2017, 11:41 PM
#6
Let me know, exactly what steps to take when adjusting the CPU frequency, and whether you need guidance on selecting LLC or NB options. I'm here to help clarify your process.
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ilija
12-18-2017, 11:41 PM #6

Let me know, exactly what steps to take when adjusting the CPU frequency, and whether you need guidance on selecting LLC or NB options. I'm here to help clarify your process.

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Amtrak10
Senior Member
639
01-01-2018, 01:00 AM
#7
Here is the rewritten version:

So initially, you're looking for details from this link:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=286610.0
I'm not well versed with MSI products or how their BIOS functions, so I can't be certain.

The information I found is about LLC, which stands for Load Line Calibration. It essentially enhances your system's output, giving it a steadier voltage and improving power delivery stability. This is the straightforward explanation to help people understand.

Of course, there are more factors at play, but those aren't important right now.

For overclockers, this means always setting the CPU voltage to its maximum capacity or close to it. The core principle of overclocking is trial and error. You should aim for a CPU voltage that can handle up to 1.4 volts, but you'll likely notice overheating and sudden shutdowns, especially with stock cooling. You'll need to lower the voltage gradually until you find the right balance before increasing clock speeds, which can cause instability.

Once you've determined the correct voltages and clock rates, you can move on to memory overclocking to boost performance further. This is especially relevant for Ryzen processors.

All this knowledge is available online. Unfortunately, I don't have hands-on experience with MSI motherboards or their BIOS labels, and terminology can vary by brand.

Ideally, under normal conditions, idle temperatures should be around 25°C to 35°C, while under stress tests they can reach 65°C to 75°C. Temperatures above this usually lead to instability unless you have a custom cooling solution.

Stock cooling systems are generally not recommended for voltages above 1.330 volts, as they distribute heat across the board and risk overheating other components. High-end coolers expel hot air directly from the CPU onto the motherboard, which is more effective.

Other important factors include the VRM's ability to handle voltage spikes, the quality of the power supply, and the overall silicon quality—often referred to as the "silicon lottery." Poor chips can be identified by their performance ratings: 1800x for good function, 1700x if some cores fail, and further downgrades like 1600x or lower.

So, in summary:
1. Raise the voltage and test your system's thermal limits.
2. Boost power delivery features like LLC and SOC.
3. Increase CPU clock speeds and run stress tests (e.g., Prime95) until stability is achieved.
4. Optimize memory overclocking by checking chip ratings and voltages.
5. Use tools like Memtest86 for error detection.
6. Optimize Windows settings for better performance.

This process requires patience and careful tuning, but it can lead to a significant performance boost if done correctly.

Google can be a helpful resource in this journey.
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Amtrak10
01-01-2018, 01:00 AM #7

Here is the rewritten version:

So initially, you're looking for details from this link:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=286610.0
I'm not well versed with MSI products or how their BIOS functions, so I can't be certain.

The information I found is about LLC, which stands for Load Line Calibration. It essentially enhances your system's output, giving it a steadier voltage and improving power delivery stability. This is the straightforward explanation to help people understand.

Of course, there are more factors at play, but those aren't important right now.

For overclockers, this means always setting the CPU voltage to its maximum capacity or close to it. The core principle of overclocking is trial and error. You should aim for a CPU voltage that can handle up to 1.4 volts, but you'll likely notice overheating and sudden shutdowns, especially with stock cooling. You'll need to lower the voltage gradually until you find the right balance before increasing clock speeds, which can cause instability.

Once you've determined the correct voltages and clock rates, you can move on to memory overclocking to boost performance further. This is especially relevant for Ryzen processors.

All this knowledge is available online. Unfortunately, I don't have hands-on experience with MSI motherboards or their BIOS labels, and terminology can vary by brand.

Ideally, under normal conditions, idle temperatures should be around 25°C to 35°C, while under stress tests they can reach 65°C to 75°C. Temperatures above this usually lead to instability unless you have a custom cooling solution.

Stock cooling systems are generally not recommended for voltages above 1.330 volts, as they distribute heat across the board and risk overheating other components. High-end coolers expel hot air directly from the CPU onto the motherboard, which is more effective.

Other important factors include the VRM's ability to handle voltage spikes, the quality of the power supply, and the overall silicon quality—often referred to as the "silicon lottery." Poor chips can be identified by their performance ratings: 1800x for good function, 1700x if some cores fail, and further downgrades like 1600x or lower.

So, in summary:
1. Raise the voltage and test your system's thermal limits.
2. Boost power delivery features like LLC and SOC.
3. Increase CPU clock speeds and run stress tests (e.g., Prime95) until stability is achieved.
4. Optimize memory overclocking by checking chip ratings and voltages.
5. Use tools like Memtest86 for error detection.
6. Optimize Windows settings for better performance.

This process requires patience and careful tuning, but it can lead to a significant performance boost if done correctly.

Google can be a helpful resource in this journey.

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Mmmmmm_Donuts
Member
103
01-01-2018, 06:19 AM
#8
This explanation is quite detailed, but it might be hard to understand for someone new to these topics. Your motherboard might not support 3.8 GHz, which is why your reply feels confusing. You mentioned trying a voltage of 3.7 and 1.3V, increasing the DRAM speed to 3000MHz or using the A-XMP profile at 2933MHz. The link you shared talks about AMD Ryzen 5 1400 reviews. It seems some cheaper motherboards aren't optimized for enthusiast overclocking, which could affect your goal. What are your thoughts?
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Mmmmmm_Donuts
01-01-2018, 06:19 AM #8

This explanation is quite detailed, but it might be hard to understand for someone new to these topics. Your motherboard might not support 3.8 GHz, which is why your reply feels confusing. You mentioned trying a voltage of 3.7 and 1.3V, increasing the DRAM speed to 3000MHz or using the A-XMP profile at 2933MHz. The link you shared talks about AMD Ryzen 5 1400 reviews. It seems some cheaper motherboards aren't optimized for enthusiast overclocking, which could affect your goal. What are your thoughts?