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Ryzen 5 1600/Memory Speed

Ryzen 5 1600/Memory Speed

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applejack0205
Member
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03-30-2017, 07:45 AM
#1
Hey everyone, I'm just starting out with PC gaming and need your help... My setup is mostly complete—Ryzen 1600 and MSI RX 580 X are installed. I’m still waiting to buy RAM, which I was considering Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200 MHz since my motherboard supports it. I’ve heard the 1600 can be overclocked to about 3.8 GHz with the stock Wraith Spire cooler, so I’m wondering if I should wait until after the initial PC setup and Windows installation before doing that. Once stable, I’d set my RAM to an XMP profile of 3200 MHz, though I know it might not always hit that speed and could run slower due to the CPU being overclocked. Would it be better to save money and opt for 2666 MHz RAM instead? Having an AIO liquid cooler would also help, possibly allowing me to reach a decent overclock and hit 3200 MHz on the RAM, but I’ve saved around £100 and haven’t bought the cooler yet. Thanks all for your advice—I’m trying to be as clear as possible and sharing my PC part list here.
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applejack0205
03-30-2017, 07:45 AM #1

Hey everyone, I'm just starting out with PC gaming and need your help... My setup is mostly complete—Ryzen 1600 and MSI RX 580 X are installed. I’m still waiting to buy RAM, which I was considering Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200 MHz since my motherboard supports it. I’ve heard the 1600 can be overclocked to about 3.8 GHz with the stock Wraith Spire cooler, so I’m wondering if I should wait until after the initial PC setup and Windows installation before doing that. Once stable, I’d set my RAM to an XMP profile of 3200 MHz, though I know it might not always hit that speed and could run slower due to the CPU being overclocked. Would it be better to save money and opt for 2666 MHz RAM instead? Having an AIO liquid cooler would also help, possibly allowing me to reach a decent overclock and hit 3200 MHz on the RAM, but I’ve saved around £100 and haven’t bought the cooler yet. Thanks all for your advice—I’m trying to be as clear as possible and sharing my PC part list here.

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Tango599
Member
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03-30-2017, 02:11 PM
#2
Thanks for the advice, guys. If I push my CPU to its stable limit using the Wraith Spire (not exceeding 1.35 GHz) and check what my motherboard allows for my 3200 MHz RAM, I’d like to know the maximum it can support. I’m pretty sure the Ryzen 1600 CPU Memory Controller tops out at 2667 MHz, so if the board tries to push RAM speed to 3200 MHz, it’s essentially overclocking the CPU memory controller. Would that raise the CPU temperature further? Thanks again for your help—can’t wait until August 12th when I’ll have the RAM installed. It’s almost everything I need now to finish the build. Also, I already got the WD Black NVMe but wish I’d known about EVO beforehand; either way, it’ll still outperform a hard drive. 😀
All Ryzen memory controllers promise up to 2400 MHz when all four slots are filled.
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Tango599
03-30-2017, 02:11 PM #2

Thanks for the advice, guys. If I push my CPU to its stable limit using the Wraith Spire (not exceeding 1.35 GHz) and check what my motherboard allows for my 3200 MHz RAM, I’d like to know the maximum it can support. I’m pretty sure the Ryzen 1600 CPU Memory Controller tops out at 2667 MHz, so if the board tries to push RAM speed to 3200 MHz, it’s essentially overclocking the CPU memory controller. Would that raise the CPU temperature further? Thanks again for your help—can’t wait until August 12th when I’ll have the RAM installed. It’s almost everything I need now to finish the build. Also, I already got the WD Black NVMe but wish I’d known about EVO beforehand; either way, it’ll still outperform a hard drive. 😀
All Ryzen memory controllers promise up to 2400 MHz when all four slots are filled.

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iRaine
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04-01-2017, 02:37 PM
#3
Hello everyone, I’m just starting out with PC gaming and wanted to share my thoughts. I’ve already bought most of my components, including a Ryzen 1600 and an MSI RX 580 X. My RAM is still pending, and I was thinking about getting the Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200 MHz since my motherboard supports it. I’ve heard that the 1600 can be overclocked to around 3.8 GHz with the stock Wraith Spire cooler, depending on the CPU model. Should I wait until after setting up my PC and installing Windows, or should I install my RAM first at an XMP profile of 3200 MHz? I understand it’s not a certainty, and sometimes the CPU being overclocked might slow things down. Would it be better to save money and opt for 2666 MHz RAM instead? An AIO liquid cooler could also help improve the chances of reaching a decent overclock and hitting 3200 MHz on the RAM. However, I’ve saved around £100 and haven’t purchased an AIO cooler yet. Thanks for your understanding, and I’m trying to be as clear as possible. Here’s my current part selection list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/LazyBuz...ved/DKzBmG
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iRaine
04-01-2017, 02:37 PM #3

Hello everyone, I’m just starting out with PC gaming and wanted to share my thoughts. I’ve already bought most of my components, including a Ryzen 1600 and an MSI RX 580 X. My RAM is still pending, and I was thinking about getting the Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200 MHz since my motherboard supports it. I’ve heard that the 1600 can be overclocked to around 3.8 GHz with the stock Wraith Spire cooler, depending on the CPU model. Should I wait until after setting up my PC and installing Windows, or should I install my RAM first at an XMP profile of 3200 MHz? I understand it’s not a certainty, and sometimes the CPU being overclocked might slow things down. Would it be better to save money and opt for 2666 MHz RAM instead? An AIO liquid cooler could also help improve the chances of reaching a decent overclock and hitting 3200 MHz on the RAM. However, I’ve saved around £100 and haven’t purchased an AIO cooler yet. Thanks for your understanding, and I’m trying to be as clear as possible. Here’s my current part selection list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/LazyBuz...ved/DKzBmG

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BrickMe352
Member
106
04-01-2017, 03:58 PM
#4
Keep an eye on the manufacturer's website for BIOS updates, to check if they offer a change concerning RAM speeds, ensuring your 3200mhz operates at 3200mhz.
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BrickMe352
04-01-2017, 03:58 PM #4

Keep an eye on the manufacturer's website for BIOS updates, to check if they offer a change concerning RAM speeds, ensuring your 3200mhz operates at 3200mhz.

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jr5455
Junior Member
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04-02-2017, 10:40 PM
#5
I have the same Mobo connected with a 1700 and 16 gigs of Corsair Vengeance led 3200MHz. I haven't managed to reach my RAM at 3200mhz even with lower timings than listed. It's currently running at 3066MHz with the newest BIOS. I suggest you consider the 2666MHz RAM, as anything faster would be risky.
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jr5455
04-02-2017, 10:40 PM #5

I have the same Mobo connected with a 1700 and 16 gigs of Corsair Vengeance led 3200MHz. I haven't managed to reach my RAM at 3200mhz even with lower timings than listed. It's currently running at 3066MHz with the newest BIOS. I suggest you consider the 2666MHz RAM, as anything faster would be risky.

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Kaisetsu
Senior Member
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04-03-2017, 11:39 PM
#6
Hey guys, if you boost your CPU to its stable limit using the Wraith Spire (not exceeding 1.35 v), then check what your motherboard can support for your 3200 MHz RAM. I think the Ryzen 1600 Memory Controller is around 2667 MHz, so pushing the RAM to 3200 MHz would be overclocking the CPU memory controller. That could potentially raise the CPU temperature further. Thanks again for all the advice—looking forward to August 12th when I’ll have the RAM installed. It’ll really help finish the build. P.S. I already got the WD Black NVMe but wish I’d known about EVO earlier; either way, it’ll still outperform a HDD. 😀
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Kaisetsu
04-03-2017, 11:39 PM #6

Hey guys, if you boost your CPU to its stable limit using the Wraith Spire (not exceeding 1.35 v), then check what your motherboard can support for your 3200 MHz RAM. I think the Ryzen 1600 Memory Controller is around 2667 MHz, so pushing the RAM to 3200 MHz would be overclocking the CPU memory controller. That could potentially raise the CPU temperature further. Thanks again for all the advice—looking forward to August 12th when I’ll have the RAM installed. It’ll really help finish the build. P.S. I already got the WD Black NVMe but wish I’d known about EVO earlier; either way, it’ll still outperform a HDD. 😀

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xJuanSolo
Junior Member
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04-04-2017, 02:01 AM
#7
Thanks for the advice, guys. If I push my CPU to the stable limit (using the Wraith Spire, not exceeding 1.35 GHz) and check what my motherboard allows for my 3200 MHz RAM, I’d like to know the maximum it can support. I’m pretty sure the Ryzen 1600 CPU Memory Controller tops out at 2667 MHz, so if the board tries to push RAM to 3200 MHz, it’s essentially overclocking the memory controller itself. Would that raise the CPU temperature further? Thanks again for your help—can’t wait until August 12th when I’ll have the RAM installed. It’s almost everything I need now to finish the build. Also, I already got the WD Black NVMe but wish I’d known about Evo beforehand; either way, it’ll still outperform a hard drive. 😊

All Ryzen memory controllers promise 2400 MHz when all four slots are filled and 2666 MHz with two slots open—this applies to me too, though it lets many users run RAM at 3200 MHz. Others with faster RAM can push even higher speeds. It’s just what AMD guarantees the memory controller can manage.

As for the NVMe drive, it doesn’t matter much; the performance is still incredible. Booting Windows takes only about 7-8 seconds on an NVMe drive—like switching from a mechanical hard drive to an SSD. It’s Ludicrous Speed!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygE01sOhzz0
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xJuanSolo
04-04-2017, 02:01 AM #7

Thanks for the advice, guys. If I push my CPU to the stable limit (using the Wraith Spire, not exceeding 1.35 GHz) and check what my motherboard allows for my 3200 MHz RAM, I’d like to know the maximum it can support. I’m pretty sure the Ryzen 1600 CPU Memory Controller tops out at 2667 MHz, so if the board tries to push RAM to 3200 MHz, it’s essentially overclocking the memory controller itself. Would that raise the CPU temperature further? Thanks again for your help—can’t wait until August 12th when I’ll have the RAM installed. It’s almost everything I need now to finish the build. Also, I already got the WD Black NVMe but wish I’d known about Evo beforehand; either way, it’ll still outperform a hard drive. 😊

All Ryzen memory controllers promise 2400 MHz when all four slots are filled and 2666 MHz with two slots open—this applies to me too, though it lets many users run RAM at 3200 MHz. Others with faster RAM can push even higher speeds. It’s just what AMD guarantees the memory controller can manage.

As for the NVMe drive, it doesn’t matter much; the performance is still incredible. Booting Windows takes only about 7-8 seconds on an NVMe drive—like switching from a mechanical hard drive to an SSD. It’s Ludicrous Speed!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygE01sOhzz0

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Thermite_RB6S
Member
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04-06-2017, 01:04 AM
#8
Thank you a lot, man! Your help is really appreciated! The YouTube link is great too!
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Thermite_RB6S
04-06-2017, 01:04 AM #8

Thank you a lot, man! Your help is really appreciated! The YouTube link is great too!

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aBowlOfRice
Junior Member
41
04-06-2017, 04:31 AM
#9
Thanks a lot man, your help is really appreciated! Also, I really enjoyed the YouTube link 😄!
Cheezy, I know it's one of the funniest movies I've ever watched.
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aBowlOfRice
04-06-2017, 04:31 AM #9

Thanks a lot man, your help is really appreciated! Also, I really enjoyed the YouTube link 😄!
Cheezy, I know it's one of the funniest movies I've ever watched.

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xOscarGG
Member
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04-07-2017, 05:33 AM
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LazyBuzzard86 :
Hey all, I'm just starting out with PC gaming and need your help... My setup is pretty complete now—Ryzen 1600 and MSI RX 580 X are installed. I’m still waiting to buy RAM, which I was planning to get Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200 MHz since my motherboard supports it. I’ve heard that the 1600 can be overclocked to about 3.8 GHz with the stock Wraith Spire cooler, depending on the CPU. Should I wait until after the PC is fully set up and Windows installed, or should I install the RAM first and then adjust the speed? I’m not sure if it will actually hit that speed, especially if the CPU is already overclocked. Would it be better to save money and opt for 2666 MHz RAM instead? Maybe using an AIO liquid cooler would give me a better chance of reaching a decent overclock and hitting 3200 MHz on the RAM? But I’ve saved around £100 and didn’t get the 1600, nor did I buy a liquid cooler. Thanks everyone, just trying to be as clear as possible—here’s my list of parts: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/LazyBuz...ved/DKzBmG
mjslakeridge :
Just monitor your motherboard manufacturer’s site for BIOS updates, so you can check if they release any changes about RAM speeds. For a 3200 MHz RAM, go with 3000 or 3200—Ryzen really benefits from fast RAM, and you can push as high as possible.
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xOscarGG
04-07-2017, 05:33 AM #10

LazyBuzzard86 :
Hey all, I'm just starting out with PC gaming and need your help... My setup is pretty complete now—Ryzen 1600 and MSI RX 580 X are installed. I’m still waiting to buy RAM, which I was planning to get Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200 MHz since my motherboard supports it. I’ve heard that the 1600 can be overclocked to about 3.8 GHz with the stock Wraith Spire cooler, depending on the CPU. Should I wait until after the PC is fully set up and Windows installed, or should I install the RAM first and then adjust the speed? I’m not sure if it will actually hit that speed, especially if the CPU is already overclocked. Would it be better to save money and opt for 2666 MHz RAM instead? Maybe using an AIO liquid cooler would give me a better chance of reaching a decent overclock and hitting 3200 MHz on the RAM? But I’ve saved around £100 and didn’t get the 1600, nor did I buy a liquid cooler. Thanks everyone, just trying to be as clear as possible—here’s my list of parts: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/LazyBuz...ved/DKzBmG
mjslakeridge :
Just monitor your motherboard manufacturer’s site for BIOS updates, so you can check if they release any changes about RAM speeds. For a 3200 MHz RAM, go with 3000 or 3200—Ryzen really benefits from fast RAM, and you can push as high as possible.