rmation about PC gamepads and controllers available.
rmation about PC gamepads and controllers available.
I've conducted extensive research on 8bitdo's website, review pieces, Reddit discussions, video content, and gaming forums. Despite this, I still have uncertainties and questions about their controllers. I reached out last week without receiving a response, so I thought it would be wise to seek advice from others.
My Objectives
All controllers should be exclusively used for PC gaming. Some titles date back to the early 2000s, while others are more recent. The focus is solely on PC platforms.
1x 8bitdo wireless Ultimate Controller (hall effect sticks) and 1x 8bitdo wireless Pro 2 controller (hall effect sticks) will cover most games. I aim to have one of each so that others, including myself, can choose between the XB or PS-style left-stick / d-pad design and overall shape.
2x 8bitdo wireless M30 controllers. These are primarily needed for fighting games (e.g., Street Fighter 2).
Requirements or Preferences
Every controller must support Dinput and Xinput, as many older titles rely on Dinput and not Xinput, while newer games often use the reverse.
I've heard mixed information about 8bitdo controllers, including claims that Bluetooth is ineffective for PC gaming since it's restricted to certain devices. Is this accurate?
I also learned that 2.4G-only controllers might now support Bluetooth via a firmware update. Is this correct? I understand the BT Ultimate includes 2.4G but wonder if the 2.4G-only version can now also use Bluetooth through a firmware change.
Why are the X, Y, and A/B buttons swapped on the 2.4G/BT and 2.4-only ultimates? Is this just a design choice or does it affect game recognition?
The website mentions Xinput and Dinput support on many 2.4G-only models, but only lists one or the other for BT models. Does this imply BT versions are limited to one option?
I've also been told that question 4 is incorrect and that BT controllers can switch between Dinput and Xinput. The main difference seems to be that 2.4G-only models have a dedicated button for this, whereas BT models require a specific combination. Is this true?
I observed that the site claims 8bitdo supports Xinput and Dinput on many 2.4G-only controllers, yet only lists one option for BT models. Does this mean BT versions are restricted to just one method?
Additionally, I heard that the 6-button controller with M30 is ideal—classic layout with four shoulder buttons (two analog triggers, two standard). However, the wireless version removes the analog triggers, forcing a purchase of the wired model if you want them. Is this an oversight on the site? Why would a more expensive wireless option exclude analog triggers while the wired ones include them?
Other than the 2.4G specification and higher cost, why don’t all versions offer the same features?
I’m unable to locate a 2.4G-only or BT/2.4G Pro 2 model anywhere.
Help me clarify these concerns and confusion. I really need some guidance or recommendations for PC controllers. While I enjoy keyboard-and-mouse setups, certain games feel more enjoyable with a controller.
For your reference, I own an SN30 Pro, which functions as a Bluetooth controller.
No. You cannot restrict Bluetooth connections to specific devices.
These controllers have been available for some time, and it's likely a Bluetooth alternative exists. The sudden activation of Bluetooth on non-Bluetooth devices might be coincidental.
Opening the device would reveal the hardware used, confirming its Bluetooth capability.
This feature is purely cosmetic; it mirrors the design of Nintendo and Xbox controllers. The transmitted data remains consistent across platforms.
Only one controller type can be used at a time. XInput and DInput are interface methods that guide the game on how to process controller input.
Switches are possible, but you must press a face button while turning it on to change devices.
Assuming this isn't intentional, it could lead to legal complications regarding marketing claims.
Wireless controllers are generally pricier due to additional components and the need for RF compliance with regulations.
Ensuring compatibility and avoiding interference is crucial, as Bluetooth operates in the 2.4GHz band and could disrupt WiFi connections.
Moreover, Bluetooth is not a free standard, so licensing matters.
If it wasn't developed, they likely discontinued production.
I've identified the top PC controller as the official Xbox models. Most titles now use XInput (the standard for Xbox controllers) and button prompts, which is typical for games released before recent years. You can operate them both wired and wirelessly, using standard AA batteries or rechargeable packs.
The next best option I've encountered is the DualShock 4 or DualSense, though compatibility with XInput-based games often requires an additional app.
The primary reason I acquired the SN30 Pro was to revisit retro-style gaming and emulation, where this layout offers a familiar experience.