Refund for 14900K when Ryzen 9000 X3D is released
Refund for 14900K when Ryzen 9000 X3D is released
I’m wondering if handling my 14900K for a refund after the Ryzen 9000 X3d is released makes sense. I purchased it from microcenter at a great deal—$700 for the CPU, motherboard, and 32GB RAM. Getting more than $400 back would still let me upgrade to a top-tier X3d for a low net price, especially after selling the motherboard separately. Do they recognize that I bought the CPU at a discount? Will the refund decrease over time? I’ve never filed any warranty claims before, and nobody on Reddit shares exact refund amounts from Intel. The chip won’t run at stock speed without frequent BSODs, unzipping issues, memory errors, and other problems that took weeks to fix—like buying a new drive and reinstalling Windows just to test it. I’m only adjusting RAM speed down to 5800 and lowering turbo by 200Mhz, aiming for a stable 5.8GHz while they claim 6.0GHz. Since it’s been just a few days, I’m not sure how reliable these changes will be.
you didnt really specify whether or not your 14900k has issues. If you are filing an RMA on a known working CPU just because you want a refund, thats going to go badly for you when they test it and show that its fully functional. And by that point if you already sold your mobo and ram, you are now at a loss. You should only upgrade when you have a need for it. If your 14900k is fine and isnt having issues, you have absolutely 0 reason to be doing this. if the 9800x3D is like the rest of Zen5, its not going to be worth it over the 7800x3D since its gonna cost 450$ at launch probably, maybe 400$ if they feel generous. Id probably go with the cheaper 7800x3D at that point still, as it will probably be 5% margin at most unless they get something to make it jump more then the rest of Zen 5 like 300-400 mhz and even then that may be hard to do while keeping its power down.
Yes, I've tried a shit ton of testing, the highest performance settings I can achieve currently is underclocking my RAM from 6000 > 5800 MHz, putting Vcore at 1.39V and reducing the P core turbo ratio offset by 200MHz. There is no possible way to get it to hit 6Ghz stable even if I completely remove XMP to run at 4800MHz, and disable all E cores, with old and new BIOSes. I also can't get it to hit all cores at 5.8GHz. I can only get two core to 5.8 GHz, and the rest at 5.7Ghz.
The 14900K struggles to run smoothly at regular speeds. In another message, I detailed the conditions needed for stability. My current configuration seems stable after a few days of typical operation and a few restarts. I haven’t been able to confirm consistent performance over several days or even a week. At standard settings, it frequently experiences errors like unzipping, memory access issues, soft crashes, and BSODs, which might take hours to appear. It never remains stable during idle testing, so long test periods could reveal that my CPU is functioning perfectly—even though no regular user would operate it at these settings.
That's quite a bit of overclocking, isn't it? It seems like you're aiming for more than the standard settings. Just keep in mind the limit is 5600 MT/s for RAM.
The only adjustment needed is the RAM speed. It seems impossible to reach the claimed 6GHz, no matter what settings I apply. I’ve turned off all E cores and removed XMP entirely, sticking to the standard DDR5 speed of 4800MHz. I must underclock the P cores by 200Mhz, resulting in a performance of around 5.8 GHz instead of the advertised rate. The Vcore sits at 1.39v; when left on the motherboard it often spiked to 1.5+ volts, and lowering it to a normal 1.3v could affect stability, making it hard to regain consistent results.
6ghz represents the highest possible boost available with TVB, not the actual speed of the chip. It's a 3.2Ghz processor that can increase to 5.6Ghz. The 2T variant can reach up to 5.8Ghz.
The CPU will experience a crash and display a blue screen if you reset the BIOS and run it with default settings. Following Intel's updated recommended defaults would mean I wouldn't think about sending a return warranty claim if the chip wasn't running at 6 GHz, but keeping it stock could harm my Windows installation through repeated BSODs.