F5F Stay Refreshed Hardware Desktop Recent construction problems with power and performance. Comes with Ryzen 5600X and B450m DS3H WiFi.

Recent construction problems with power and performance. Comes with Ryzen 5600X and B450m DS3H WiFi.

Recent construction problems with power and performance. Comes with Ryzen 5600X and B450m DS3H WiFi.

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Miyuumi
Senior Member
543
06-01-2020, 03:32 AM
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Hello everyone, currently having an issue with a build I am assembling for a friend. On first power on the computer turned on and fans spun up but after 10 minutes of waiting it would not post. I powered it off and figured it needed a bios update to run the 5600X, so I used an Athlon 200GE I have for doing bios updates and testing on AM4 motherboards. It booted right up and posted in the bios without issue with the Athlon, I also noticed that the RGB lights came on right away when it started posting, which it didn't do with the 5600X installed, I did the bios update and reinstalled the 5600X back into the system. It again powered up with fans spinning(no RGB lights again) but no post or display, but then after about 5 minutes and me just about to power it down again(thinking the CPU was bad), the RGB lights came on and it posted with the 5600X. I figured maybe some weird bios settings refresh or something because it did have me reset the FTPM when it finally posted. I powered the system down and back on a couple of times to make sure it wasn't a fluke and then installed Windows. After installing and setting up Windows I turned the computer off and on, restarted it, let it go to sleep, the whole nine just making sure it didn't have that abnormally long post again. It didn't. I then went into bios to enable XMP on the memory. It enabled and the system restarted, going into the same post issue as before, I waited 10 minutes and nothing. Ended up having to reset the CMOS to get it to post again, and again it took 5 to 6 minutes of no RGB lights and display to finally light up and post. I did some more testing, in Windows. Once powered on the system will shut down, restart, and cold boot from being off for several hours no problem. However, the second I leave the system powered off and unplugged from the wall for more than 10 minutes(or try to enable XMP) it goes back to taking 5-6 minutes for it to finally post and display. I have never seen this before. Full specs(all parts are brand new): Ryzen 5 5600X 32GB(2x16GB) 3600mhz T-Force Vulcan Z DDR4 Memory Gigabyte B450m DS3h WiFi Rev: 1.2 MSI Ventus 3X GeForce RTX 3060ti Corsair RM750e 80+ Gold PSU Lian Li Liancool 205m Mesh Case Troubleshooting steps I have tried: Replaced CPU with another brand new 5600X I keep in stock (same issue) Tried two other kits of Ram, one that was on the QVL list (same issue) strangely the other ram kits do allow XMP to be enabled without it taking forever to post again regardless it still does it after a 10 minute power cycle Tried a different PSU (Same issue) Tried system outside of case on test bench (same issue) At this point I think the motherboard is just bad, he bought the parts and I told him to go with a better board originally before he purchased them, but he went with this one because of the price. I might just need to have him return it and get a different one. As it's the only thing I don't have another one to test it with. It's just such a weird issue I have never encountered before and I've tested everything else.
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Miyuumi
06-01-2020, 03:32 AM #1

Hello everyone, currently having an issue with a build I am assembling for a friend. On first power on the computer turned on and fans spun up but after 10 minutes of waiting it would not post. I powered it off and figured it needed a bios update to run the 5600X, so I used an Athlon 200GE I have for doing bios updates and testing on AM4 motherboards. It booted right up and posted in the bios without issue with the Athlon, I also noticed that the RGB lights came on right away when it started posting, which it didn't do with the 5600X installed, I did the bios update and reinstalled the 5600X back into the system. It again powered up with fans spinning(no RGB lights again) but no post or display, but then after about 5 minutes and me just about to power it down again(thinking the CPU was bad), the RGB lights came on and it posted with the 5600X. I figured maybe some weird bios settings refresh or something because it did have me reset the FTPM when it finally posted. I powered the system down and back on a couple of times to make sure it wasn't a fluke and then installed Windows. After installing and setting up Windows I turned the computer off and on, restarted it, let it go to sleep, the whole nine just making sure it didn't have that abnormally long post again. It didn't. I then went into bios to enable XMP on the memory. It enabled and the system restarted, going into the same post issue as before, I waited 10 minutes and nothing. Ended up having to reset the CMOS to get it to post again, and again it took 5 to 6 minutes of no RGB lights and display to finally light up and post. I did some more testing, in Windows. Once powered on the system will shut down, restart, and cold boot from being off for several hours no problem. However, the second I leave the system powered off and unplugged from the wall for more than 10 minutes(or try to enable XMP) it goes back to taking 5-6 minutes for it to finally post and display. I have never seen this before. Full specs(all parts are brand new): Ryzen 5 5600X 32GB(2x16GB) 3600mhz T-Force Vulcan Z DDR4 Memory Gigabyte B450m DS3h WiFi Rev: 1.2 MSI Ventus 3X GeForce RTX 3060ti Corsair RM750e 80+ Gold PSU Lian Li Liancool 205m Mesh Case Troubleshooting steps I have tried: Replaced CPU with another brand new 5600X I keep in stock (same issue) Tried two other kits of Ram, one that was on the QVL list (same issue) strangely the other ram kits do allow XMP to be enabled without it taking forever to post again regardless it still does it after a 10 minute power cycle Tried a different PSU (Same issue) Tried system outside of case on test bench (same issue) At this point I think the motherboard is just bad, he bought the parts and I told him to go with a better board originally before he purchased them, but he went with this one because of the price. I might just need to have him return it and get a different one. As it's the only thing I don't have another one to test it with. It's just such a weird issue I have never encountered before and I've tested everything else.

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Titto27
Member
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06-01-2020, 03:59 AM
#2
Are the noises coming from the motherboard a problem? Have you tested one memory stick at a time? If another board works fine with the CPU and RAM installed properly, it suggests the issue might be with the board itself. Does it function normally when the Athlon is installed? If you have another BIOS battery, replacing it could help determine the cause. This setup is basic, but the behavior remains unusual.
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Titto27
06-01-2020, 03:59 AM #2

Are the noises coming from the motherboard a problem? Have you tested one memory stick at a time? If another board works fine with the CPU and RAM installed properly, it suggests the issue might be with the board itself. Does it function normally when the Athlon is installed? If you have another BIOS battery, replacing it could help determine the cause. This setup is basic, but the behavior remains unusual.

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Kermit4frog
Junior Member
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06-01-2020, 06:49 AM
#3
Yes, I confirmed the sequence. The values transitioned from F32 to F65 as requested.
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Kermit4frog
06-01-2020, 06:49 AM #3

Yes, I confirmed the sequence. The values transitioned from F32 to F65 as requested.

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KingWillie123
Junior Member
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06-02-2020, 09:04 PM
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I don’t have another board to try it on, I’m currently out of AM4 boards. That’s why I was hoping it wouldn’t be that bad. It works fine with the Athlon, but only started booting twice for the original BIOS update. After that, using a 5600X (two brand new ones) and a brand new 5600G caused the problem. (It could be a power or VRM issue, maybe the board struggles with higher-powered chips?) I’ve switched to another CMOS battery after posting this, but I’m still trying it.
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KingWillie123
06-02-2020, 09:04 PM #4

I don’t have another board to try it on, I’m currently out of AM4 boards. That’s why I was hoping it wouldn’t be that bad. It works fine with the Athlon, but only started booting twice for the original BIOS update. After that, using a 5600X (two brand new ones) and a brand new 5600G caused the problem. (It could be a power or VRM issue, maybe the board struggles with higher-powered chips?) I’ve switched to another CMOS battery after posting this, but I’m still trying it.

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SrSniper28
Member
231
06-03-2020, 12:37 AM
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It was already listed on F63, which I observed since the board was meant to accommodate the 5600X with F61. Nonetheless, I proceeded with the updates in sequence.
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SrSniper28
06-03-2020, 12:37 AM #5

It was already listed on F63, which I observed since the board was meant to accommodate the 5600X with F61. Nonetheless, I proceeded with the updates in sequence.

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SgtCool
Member
222
06-03-2020, 02:55 AM
#6
It looks like you narrowed the problem to the motherboard by swapping every other part. I’m sure you can return it or have it fixed. A 5-minute boot on a clean system feels unusually slow, particularly with a standard 2x16 RAM setup.
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SgtCool
06-03-2020, 02:55 AM #6

It looks like you narrowed the problem to the motherboard by swapping every other part. I’m sure you can return it or have it fixed. A 5-minute boot on a clean system feels unusually slow, particularly with a standard 2x16 RAM setup.

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Progman2002
Junior Member
42
06-03-2020, 10:24 AM
#7
Opt for a budget-friendly B550 model such as the pg4, riptide/pro 4, or ds3h. If you really want to cut costs, consider the older B3/450 boards.
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Progman2002
06-03-2020, 10:24 AM #7

Opt for a budget-friendly B550 model such as the pg4, riptide/pro 4, or ds3h. If you really want to cut costs, consider the older B3/450 boards.

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xSnowyowlx
Junior Member
17
06-03-2020, 11:59 AM
#8
Ensure the BIOS and chipset are updated to the most recent compatible version.
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xSnowyowlx
06-03-2020, 11:59 AM #8

Ensure the BIOS and chipset are updated to the most recent compatible version.

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giggles100
Junior Member
15
06-03-2020, 04:46 PM
#9
I also tried that. It was mentioned in my original post. I changed the board to a B550 Pro from MSI and it works now. There must have been an issue with the board he purchased. I sent it back and everything is resolved. Appreciate your assistance, everyone.
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giggles100
06-03-2020, 04:46 PM #9

I also tried that. It was mentioned in my original post. I changed the board to a B550 Pro from MSI and it works now. There must have been an issue with the board he purchased. I sent it back and everything is resolved. Appreciate your assistance, everyone.