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aurodude
Member
202
07-07-2016, 08:06 AM
#1
Give me a 2 gaming pc build.
1 - 320$
2 - 700$
Used to have 4790k devil's canyon cpu.
Geforce gtx960 2gb
8gb X 2 = 16gb Ram stick.
SSD 500gb
not sure about others but this tells you most.
Cost me about 765$ total in 2015.
Without buying Windows OS.
bought cheap PSU, pc case with no rgb.
Used to be able to play Witcher 3 in prob middle or mid high or even high with a little stutter while recording I guess.
It wasn't smooth so I quit recording and probably played quite smoothly in mid high or high.
Skyrim worked smooth.
GTA5 on middle settings still stutters as it needs at least 4gb or more.
Resident evil 7 plays nicely in mid settings I guess. ( it's been a while since I played.)
Dishonored 2 probably played better than resident evil 7.
Can play 4k videos that is over 16gb sized.
sometimes however there are videos I can't play and stutters a lot or doesn't even show.
So this is the pc that broke.
Overall it is quite satisfying even now.
I wish to have a similar pc for pc number 1.
I wish to have a better pc for pc number 2.
with atleast 8gb or more vram.
I want to have both cpu and gpu to be amd.
intel cpus are hard to install and uninstall as a beginner. Also I just want amd.
but I found most budget pcs, for maybe price reasons ? it's always either cpu is amd
and gpu is nvidia or cpu is intel and gpu is amd.
I think getting amd cpu would be better with nvidia gpu if I must mix the brand, because of the whatever budget problem,
for not mixing the brand, that might cost too much if that's the case.
I want the PSU to be good enough to not destroy other parts. Personally from my experience needed 650w instead of 500 which was enough but always having more is better because it sparks with smoke and breaks 3 times for me.
Even white 80+ or bronze seems nice.
(some ppl even suggest these don't mean much and want to buy according to some good confirmed psu list somewhere and not to buy fake psu companies that is pretty mich scam. 90+ , unknown company made etc.
I want a nice air cooler for cpu and I'm not sure about pc case and pc case fans.
I read and studied but it's hard to know how many fans can be installed in where top of below. Especially when you have to calculate these before purchase and can't refund after opening noticing it doesn't fit.
and gonna spend a lot. I need to make purchase fast.
I'm a beginner but I learned a lot but since I can't waste money and try, I can't improve.
I'm very worried about pc case not fitting gpu motherboard or cpu air cooler etc not compatible with motherboard etc.
cpu is supposed to be core numbers thread numbers and clock speed.
gpu , vram and clockspeed.
(for some reason clockspeed is hidden below as if it's not so important.)
found a gpu with 6gb but clockspeed of 17500mhz. this is also very confusing.
most are about 3000mhz for 300$ with 8gb though the 17500 vs 3000 is just too much.
clock speed doesn't matter ?
some say none of these matter and just need to check the model it self tested for performance for games instead. which makes you unable to know how good components even are without checking cpu, gpu performance tested website and skip the information details of components.
There's also pcie 3,4 which is a motherboard speed just like usb speed is usb 2.0 to usb 3.0 or harddrive speed is hdd to ssd. (recently learned.)
too much to consider. then there's the nvme thing? and 3.2 something I think there is no end to learn.
most prebuilt reviews are horrible it is pretty much a scam. (unless its a review from a customer who have taken a photo asap without even using it for few days) bet some websites could also have an affiliate to recommand bad prebuilts or parts.
obviously not all...maybe ?
I wonder how much it will cost if I were to buy the same build now in 2024.
I searched and the cpu still exist whether it's used or fake. I wonder if it's cheaper than using the newer cpu gpu since it's very old hardware. it says out of product or something. maybe they don't make anymore of these ? Also have some problems such as old hardware cpu, gpu can't upgrade to newer driver updates ?
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aurodude
07-07-2016, 08:06 AM #1

Give me a 2 gaming pc build.
1 - 320$
2 - 700$
Used to have 4790k devil's canyon cpu.
Geforce gtx960 2gb
8gb X 2 = 16gb Ram stick.
SSD 500gb
not sure about others but this tells you most.
Cost me about 765$ total in 2015.
Without buying Windows OS.
bought cheap PSU, pc case with no rgb.
Used to be able to play Witcher 3 in prob middle or mid high or even high with a little stutter while recording I guess.
It wasn't smooth so I quit recording and probably played quite smoothly in mid high or high.
Skyrim worked smooth.
GTA5 on middle settings still stutters as it needs at least 4gb or more.
Resident evil 7 plays nicely in mid settings I guess. ( it's been a while since I played.)
Dishonored 2 probably played better than resident evil 7.
Can play 4k videos that is over 16gb sized.
sometimes however there are videos I can't play and stutters a lot or doesn't even show.
So this is the pc that broke.
Overall it is quite satisfying even now.
I wish to have a similar pc for pc number 1.
I wish to have a better pc for pc number 2.
with atleast 8gb or more vram.
I want to have both cpu and gpu to be amd.
intel cpus are hard to install and uninstall as a beginner. Also I just want amd.
but I found most budget pcs, for maybe price reasons ? it's always either cpu is amd
and gpu is nvidia or cpu is intel and gpu is amd.
I think getting amd cpu would be better with nvidia gpu if I must mix the brand, because of the whatever budget problem,
for not mixing the brand, that might cost too much if that's the case.
I want the PSU to be good enough to not destroy other parts. Personally from my experience needed 650w instead of 500 which was enough but always having more is better because it sparks with smoke and breaks 3 times for me.
Even white 80+ or bronze seems nice.
(some ppl even suggest these don't mean much and want to buy according to some good confirmed psu list somewhere and not to buy fake psu companies that is pretty mich scam. 90+ , unknown company made etc.
I want a nice air cooler for cpu and I'm not sure about pc case and pc case fans.
I read and studied but it's hard to know how many fans can be installed in where top of below. Especially when you have to calculate these before purchase and can't refund after opening noticing it doesn't fit.
and gonna spend a lot. I need to make purchase fast.
I'm a beginner but I learned a lot but since I can't waste money and try, I can't improve.
I'm very worried about pc case not fitting gpu motherboard or cpu air cooler etc not compatible with motherboard etc.
cpu is supposed to be core numbers thread numbers and clock speed.
gpu , vram and clockspeed.
(for some reason clockspeed is hidden below as if it's not so important.)
found a gpu with 6gb but clockspeed of 17500mhz. this is also very confusing.
most are about 3000mhz for 300$ with 8gb though the 17500 vs 3000 is just too much.
clock speed doesn't matter ?
some say none of these matter and just need to check the model it self tested for performance for games instead. which makes you unable to know how good components even are without checking cpu, gpu performance tested website and skip the information details of components.
There's also pcie 3,4 which is a motherboard speed just like usb speed is usb 2.0 to usb 3.0 or harddrive speed is hdd to ssd. (recently learned.)
too much to consider. then there's the nvme thing? and 3.2 something I think there is no end to learn.
most prebuilt reviews are horrible it is pretty much a scam. (unless its a review from a customer who have taken a photo asap without even using it for few days) bet some websites could also have an affiliate to recommand bad prebuilts or parts.
obviously not all...maybe ?
I wonder how much it will cost if I were to buy the same build now in 2024.
I searched and the cpu still exist whether it's used or fake. I wonder if it's cheaper than using the newer cpu gpu since it's very old hardware. it says out of product or something. maybe they don't make anymore of these ? Also have some problems such as old hardware cpu, gpu can't upgrade to newer driver updates ?

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Osman_PvP_07
Member
54
07-09-2016, 05:08 AM
#2
That's a challenging task, but I'll give it my best.
For approximately 350 USD to enjoy 4K video content:
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 4600G 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($113.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B550M-A/CSM Micro ATX AM4 ($85.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: TEAMGROUP Vulcan Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 ($36.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: TEAMGROUP T-Force Cardea Z44L 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME SSD ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Case: MagniumGear NEO AIR (2023) ATX Mid Tower ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX (2023) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX ($59.99 @ Corsair)
Overall Cost: $386.94
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Osman_PvP_07
07-09-2016, 05:08 AM #2

That's a challenging task, but I'll give it my best.
For approximately 350 USD to enjoy 4K video content:
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 4600G 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($113.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B550M-A/CSM Micro ATX AM4 ($85.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: TEAMGROUP Vulcan Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 ($36.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: TEAMGROUP T-Force Cardea Z44L 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME SSD ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Case: MagniumGear NEO AIR (2023) ATX Mid Tower ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX (2023) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX ($59.99 @ Corsair)
Overall Cost: $386.94

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TwiistedFalcon
Junior Member
48
07-09-2016, 07:33 AM
#3
There isn't a new gaming PC available for $324 unless it's a used one. You could obtain your previous build for $324 without needing a new power supply unit.
GPUs are quite costly these days. A GTX 960 would cost around $300 to $400 on its own.
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TwiistedFalcon
07-09-2016, 07:33 AM #3

There isn't a new gaming PC available for $324 unless it's a used one. You could obtain your previous build for $324 without needing a new power supply unit.
GPUs are quite costly these days. A GTX 960 would cost around $300 to $400 on its own.

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MLGTurtles
Junior Member
42
07-09-2016, 10:06 PM
#4
These Amazon links lead to products featuring the GTX 960 graphics card.
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MLGTurtles
07-09-2016, 10:06 PM #4

These Amazon links lead to products featuring the GTX 960 graphics card.

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WillDoaK
Junior Member
6
07-21-2016, 09:41 AM
#5
these appear to be more affordable than 300$ with 6gb. It doesn't need to be exact—just a similar option, perhaps lowering the price a bit or raising it to 390$.
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WillDoaK
07-21-2016, 09:41 AM #5

these appear to be more affordable than 300$ with 6gb. It doesn't need to be exact—just a similar option, perhaps lowering the price a bit or raising it to 390$.

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kittymitty69
Member
190
07-24-2016, 03:12 AM
#6
The GTX 1660 was similar to the GTX 960 back in 2019, but now it's 2024. The GT 1030 performs much more slowly compared to a GTX 960.
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kittymitty69
07-24-2016, 03:12 AM #6

The GTX 1660 was similar to the GTX 960 back in 2019, but now it's 2024. The GT 1030 performs much more slowly compared to a GTX 960.

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awesomer121
Junior Member
12
07-26-2016, 05:32 PM
#7
Thanks for the reply.
Sorry I have no idea how to measure the gpu spec at all.
I see 960 being like 2gb vram with 1250 something mhz ?
and gt 1030 is 4gb with 1430 mhz ?
I guess there's more to it. It would be awesome if they rated from 1 ~ 100 after testing a few games so that it's easier to know right away. as a beginner it's like I can never know which is better when gt1030 surpassses in 2 specs and it's still slower.
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awesomer121
07-26-2016, 05:32 PM #7

Thanks for the reply.
Sorry I have no idea how to measure the gpu spec at all.
I see 960 being like 2gb vram with 1250 something mhz ?
and gt 1030 is 4gb with 1430 mhz ?
I guess there's more to it. It would be awesome if they rated from 1 ~ 100 after testing a few games so that it's easier to know right away. as a beginner it's like I can never know which is better when gt1030 surpassses in 2 specs and it's still slower.

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Snowkiller953
Member
115
07-26-2016, 09:59 PM
#8
There are many benchmarks available. You should not compare GPUs based solely on clockrate and VRAM. I'm a bit puzzled about your objective here. Are you aiming to replicate the quality of your 2015 PC today, or just achieve performance similar to it? The latter would require entering the used market and considering an additional $80 for a good power supply. This will vary depending on your country and the availability of options when you buy.
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Snowkiller953
07-26-2016, 09:59 PM #8

There are many benchmarks available. You should not compare GPUs based solely on clockrate and VRAM. I'm a bit puzzled about your objective here. Are you aiming to replicate the quality of your 2015 PC today, or just achieve performance similar to it? The latter would require entering the used market and considering an additional $80 for a good power supply. This will vary depending on your country and the availability of options when you buy.

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Fred10244
Posting Freak
937
07-27-2016, 01:14 PM
#9
I actually purchased a high-end CPU instead of a GPU, which turned out to be a poor decision. This time I aim for a better GPU.
I need some 4K videos to play smoothly with large files over 10GB, and casual games that don’t require high settings. I won’t be playing the newest PS5 titles obviously.
Perhaps older Witcher 3-style games would work well—they have good graphics and solid optimization.
This is for the more affordable model; for the expensive one, I’d like to play the latest games at least in medium settings.
I suppose it’s still an extremely limited budget?
Maybe I could get a better PSU for the expensive PC and just a cheap 650W 80+ for the cheaper one.
I’d appreciate it if you could raise the price a bit higher.
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Fred10244
07-27-2016, 01:14 PM #9

I actually purchased a high-end CPU instead of a GPU, which turned out to be a poor decision. This time I aim for a better GPU.
I need some 4K videos to play smoothly with large files over 10GB, and casual games that don’t require high settings. I won’t be playing the newest PS5 titles obviously.
Perhaps older Witcher 3-style games would work well—they have good graphics and solid optimization.
This is for the more affordable model; for the expensive one, I’d like to play the latest games at least in medium settings.
I suppose it’s still an extremely limited budget?
Maybe I could get a better PSU for the expensive PC and just a cheap 650W 80+ for the cheaper one.
I’d appreciate it if you could raise the price a bit higher.

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iStrafeRunner
Member
169
07-27-2016, 07:05 PM
#10
Thats a tough request, but i will try:
For about 350 USD and for watching 4k videos:
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU:
AMD Ryzen 5 4600G 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor
($113.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard:
Asus PRIME B550M-A/CSM Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard
($85.99 @ Amazon)
Memory:
TEAMGROUP Vulcan Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory
($36.99 @ Amazon)
Storage:
TEAMGROUP T-Force Cardea Z44L 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
($49.99 @ Newegg)
Case:
MagniumGear NEO AIR (2023) ATX Mid Tower Case
($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply:
Corsair CX (2023) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
($59.99 @ Corsair)
Total:
$386.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by
PCPartPicker
2024-01-04 07:50 EST-0500
700 USD build:
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU:
AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor
($149.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard:
Asus PRIME B550M-A/CSM Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard
($85.99 @ Amazon)
Memory:
TEAMGROUP Vulcan Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory
($36.99 @ Amazon)
Storage:
TEAMGROUP T-Force Cardea Z44L 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
($49.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card:
MSI MECH 2X CLASSIC OC Radeon RX 7600 8 GB Video Card
($259.99 @ Newegg)
Case:
MagniumGear NEO AIR (2023) ATX Mid Tower Case
($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply:
Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 - TT Premium Edition 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
($89.99 @ Amazon)
Total:
$712.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by
PCPartPicker
2024-01-04 07:52 EST-0500
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iStrafeRunner
07-27-2016, 07:05 PM #10

Thats a tough request, but i will try:
For about 350 USD and for watching 4k videos:
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU:
AMD Ryzen 5 4600G 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor
($113.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard:
Asus PRIME B550M-A/CSM Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard
($85.99 @ Amazon)
Memory:
TEAMGROUP Vulcan Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory
($36.99 @ Amazon)
Storage:
TEAMGROUP T-Force Cardea Z44L 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
($49.99 @ Newegg)
Case:
MagniumGear NEO AIR (2023) ATX Mid Tower Case
($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply:
Corsair CX (2023) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
($59.99 @ Corsair)
Total:
$386.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by
PCPartPicker
2024-01-04 07:50 EST-0500
700 USD build:
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU:
AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor
($149.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard:
Asus PRIME B550M-A/CSM Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard
($85.99 @ Amazon)
Memory:
TEAMGROUP Vulcan Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory
($36.99 @ Amazon)
Storage:
TEAMGROUP T-Force Cardea Z44L 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
($49.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card:
MSI MECH 2X CLASSIC OC Radeon RX 7600 8 GB Video Card
($259.99 @ Newegg)
Case:
MagniumGear NEO AIR (2023) ATX Mid Tower Case
($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply:
Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 - TT Premium Edition 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
($89.99 @ Amazon)
Total:
$712.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by
PCPartPicker
2024-01-04 07:52 EST-0500

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