Question: Scanning New Construction - Enhancement (Intel?)
Question: Scanning New Construction - Enhancement (Intel?)
Finding a suitable CPU/Mobo/RAM combination to swap this one is proving challenging. If an upgrade was necessary, AMD offers several solid options. On the other hand, choosing Intel appears more complicated given the issues with the 14th generation (are they still relevant? Is it long overdue? What about the Ultra series? What advantages do they provide?).
What would be the optimal choice if I were considering an Intel upgrade?
My goals are a blend of casual gaming, productivity tasks, and multi-monitor support. I’m fine with similar core/thread counts. I’ll retain the RTX 4070 Ti Super right now. Likely future plans involve 4K or multi-1440p displays. The monitor upgrade seems most promising, yet I’d like to follow the current discussions around Intel processors.
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor
(Purchased For $329.00)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U14S 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler
(Purchased For $79.95)
Thermal Compound: ARCTIC MX-4 4 g Thermal Paste
(Purchased For $7.27)
Motherboard: Asus ROG Crosshair VII Hero (Wi-Fi) ATX AM4 Motherboard
(Purchased For $273.96)
Memory: Mushkin Redline Lumina 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-4000 CL18 Memory
(Purchased For $119.99)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME SSD
(Purchased For $159.99)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive
(Purchased For $54.99)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive
(Purchased For $57.99)
Video Card: Asus TUF GAMING OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card
(Purchased For $829.99)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro M TG ATX Mid Tower Case
(Purchased For $99.99)
Power Supply: Corsair AX1600i 1600 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
(Purchased For $242.99)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro Retail - USB 64-bit
(Purchased For $25.00)
Case Fan: Corsair AF140 Quiet 66.4 CFM 140 mm Fan
(Purchased For $12.80)
Case Fan: Corsair AF140 Quiet 66.4 CFM 140 mm Fan
Storage: Acer XB271HU bmiprz 27.0" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Monitor
(Purchased For $599.99)
Monitor: AOC U2879VF 28.0" 3840 x 2160 60 Hz Monitor
(Purchased For $264.98)
Keyboard: Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard
(Purchased For $141.69)
Mouse: Logitech G403 Prodigy Wired Optical Mouse
(Purchased For $29.99)
Headphones: Razer Barracuda X 7.1 Channel Headset
(Purchased For $69.00)
Custom: Xbox Controller + Wireless Adapter for Windows
(Purchased For $55.00)
Total: $3467.36
Prices include shipping, taxes, and available discounts
Only benefit - less power draw compared to Intel 14th gen,
review:
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel...5k/25.html
In everything else, including cheaper price, Ryzen 9000-series does better.
At current day and due to such poor performance of Core Ultra 200-series + added cost, there is 0 reason to go with any of the Core Ultra 200-series CPUs. You will get far better price to performance ratio with any Ryzen 9000-series chip.
Current king of games, R7 9800X3D vs U9 285K comparison in games:
https://www.techspot.com/review/2921-amd...ltra-285k/
While price wise, you will be paying more for the Intel chip, pcpp:
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compar...sY,fPyH99/
So, your call if you want to pay more money for worse performance.
Here's something to consider;
(Replaced only CPU-MoBo-RAM combo.)
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU:
AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 4.7 GHz 8-Core Processor
($565.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler:
Noctua NH-U14S 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler
(Purchased For $79.95)
Thermal Compound:
ARCTIC MX-4 4 g Thermal Paste
(Purchased For $7.27)
Motherboard:
Asus ROG STRIX B850-F GAMING WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard
($299.99 @ Amazon)
Memory:
G.Skill Ripjaws M5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL36 Memory
($95.99 @ Amazon)
Storage:
Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
(Purchased For $159.99)
Storage:
Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive
(Purchased For $54.99)
Storage:
Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200 RPM Internal Hard Drive
(Purchased For $57.99)
Video Card:
Asus TUF GAMING OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB Video Card
(Purchased For $829.99)
Case:
Phanteks Enthoo Pro M TG ATX Mid Tower Case
(Purchased For $99.99)
Power Supply:
Corsair AX1600i 1600 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
(Purchased For $242.99)
Operating System:
Microsoft Windows 11 Pro Retail - USB 64-bit
(Purchased For $25.00)
Case Fan:
Corsair AF140 Quiet 66.4 CFM 140 mm Fan
(Purchased For $12.80)
Case Fan:
Corsair AF140 Quiet 66.4 CFM 140 mm Fan
(Purchased For $12.80)
Monitor:
Acer XB271HU bmiprz 27.0" 2560 x 1440 165 Hz Monitor
(Purchased For $599.99)
Monitor:
AOC U2879VF 28.0" 3840 x 2160 60 Hz Monitor
(Purchased For $264.98)
Keyboard:
Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard
(Purchased For $141.69)
Mouse:
Logitech G403 Prodigy Wired Optical Mouse
(Purchased For $29.99)
Headphones:
Razer Barracuda X 7.1 Channel Headset
(Purchased For $69.00)
Custom:
Xbox Controller + Wireless Adapter for Windows
(Purchased For $55.00)
Total (Not Yet Purchased):
$960.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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2025-04-25 00:01 EDT-0400
Do you currently possess the components mentioned in the original message? What shortcomings does your present setup exhibit? To clarify, the 13/14th generation problems have been resolved.
A few years back, Intel finally pinpointed the underlying issue and released BIOS updates to stop further complications.
Only by purchasing used or failing to update your BIOS would you remain vulnerable.
Likewise, the ultra launch a year prior was criticized since gaming performance didn’t meet expectations.
Gradually, software adapted to handling various ultra cores, and overall performance improved.
Customer feedback on newegg highlights strong opinions about the ultra chips.
https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-ultra-...6819118505
AMD X3d chips excel in gaming, though standard processors performed better for everyday tasks.
Upgrading to a motherboard platform would enhance performance with AMD; the same applies to Intel moving forward, given the LGA 1851’s limited future prospects.
If you require an upgrade now, act immediately.
Delaying until the next superior option could mean missing out forever.
New and improved price leaders are regularly emerging.
Yes, and the same applies to other low-quality hardware in retail store reviews. For example, the Apevia Galaxy PSU on Amazon has questionable feedback sources. Many reviews are fake or generated by bots, and some come from people unfamiliar with the products. Retail stores may also remove genuine comments, such as deleting verified purchase reviews about items like the AeroCool X-Vision fan controller. The main reason is simply that these sources lack credibility. A reliable third-party review is essential for accurate product information.
I'm using the same fundamental setup, R7 5800X3D but without the 4070 Ti non Super. The only situation where my CPU acts as a bottleneck is MSFS2020, where it's almost always the limiting factor. The 5800X3D being so powerful makes it unlikely you'd gain much by upgrading the system just yet, unless you replace the GPU with something significantly faster. Especially true if you're aiming for 4K, where the CPU will play even smaller of a role. I'm currently at 1440p with 165Hz (frame rate fluctuates but capped at 165 for games that reach it), and my CPU mostly sits idle during gameplay, only spiking when loads or transitions occur.
Newegg allows filtering to verified purchasers only.
I concur that Amazon ratings seem questionable.
In the Egg, U9 285K holds 81 reviews with an average rating of 4.7.
R7 9800X3D in the Egg has 357 reviews, averaging 4.8 and is also labeled "Best Seller".
link:
https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-7-...-z...6819113877
Based on the Egg alone, which CPU performs better? I’d recommend the R7 9800X3D and even more so.
When examining closely, the count isn't 81 reviews for the 285K. The real number is just 27. The mean rating stands at 4.9. There was a single zero-star review expressing frustration over the theft from Newegg Canada delivery. Some 9800X3d reviews mentioned issues with DOA. Tom discussed it here: It seems problems may be present with any new product.
The system I used originally remains the same as now. The motherboard I purchased in 2018 works perfectly, with no issues in performance or capabilities. I don’t see any advantage from PCIe 4.0 or 5.0 for my needs, and I prefer not to chase the highest frame rates since they’re unnecessary for noticeable differences. Additionally, I plan to get a 4K gaming monitor someday, which would further reduce the importance of CPU power during games.
You all effectively addressed my concerns. If I aim for improved performance, there are alternatives available. But in my opinion, my current setup is sufficient. So, upgrading isn’t necessary for me.