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Question PC restarts unexpectedly while playing games, yet it doesn't happen during stress tests?

Question PC restarts unexpectedly while playing games, yet it doesn't happen during stress tests?

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09-02-2023, 09:18 AM
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Approximately two months back. However, because I've been having reboots since I first assembled this computer, it seems dust hasn't made much difference.
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Admiralfiggins
09-02-2023, 09:18 AM #11

Approximately two months back. However, because I've been having reboots since I first assembled this computer, it seems dust hasn't made much difference.

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taconiebre
Senior Member
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09-02-2023, 06:28 PM
#12
Dust is related to temperatures.
However, since you experienced problems from the start, the power supply unit remains a possible cause.
It might become more stable by removing the RAM EXPO and using JEDEC speeds, or perhaps lowering the GPU clock speed.
If the issue is about ripple issues, only a better power supply will help.
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taconiebre
09-02-2023, 06:28 PM #12

Dust is related to temperatures.
However, since you experienced problems from the start, the power supply unit remains a possible cause.
It might become more stable by removing the RAM EXPO and using JEDEC speeds, or perhaps lowering the GPU clock speed.
If the issue is about ripple issues, only a better power supply will help.

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BlueStar_LH
Posting Freak
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09-02-2023, 10:16 PM
#13
I just saw an orange flashing light on mb during a pc crash, does that matter? Setting ram to default speeds doesn't seem to help.
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BlueStar_LH
09-02-2023, 10:16 PM #13

I just saw an orange flashing light on mb during a pc crash, does that matter? Setting ram to default speeds doesn't seem to help.

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kleinne_meid
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09-02-2023, 10:48 PM
#14
The exact position of that LED needs clarification. It could be a debug LED or situated at the bottom left of the MoBo, near the audio area.
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kleinne_meid
09-02-2023, 10:48 PM #14

The exact position of that LED needs clarification. It could be a debug LED or situated at the bottom left of the MoBo, near the audio area.

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KelsarKat
Junior Member
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09-09-2023, 05:53 AM
#15
Debug LED signaling DRAM fail.
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KelsarKat
09-09-2023, 05:53 AM #15

Debug LED signaling DRAM fail.

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Darkbandit92
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09-09-2023, 06:01 AM
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When the computer crashes, all communication stops and responses cease. This may lead to various symptoms and telemetry at the crash moment, displaying incorrect data. The yellow debug LED indicates a DRAM issue or failure, but it stays lit instead of blinking. During the freeze, the system loses connection to the DRAM briefly, causing the debug LED to flicker. Regarding the power supply, how far is the new PSU located? Also, which make and model are you considering for the third time? The R5 7600X includes an integrated iGPU. If you remove the RTX 4070 and connect a monitor via MoBo, will the system still crash? This setup reduces the load on the PSU and can help determine if the problem lies with the GPU or the graphics card. You could play games using the iGPU, but performance will be significantly lower—around 30 FPS at 720p compared to about 120 FPS at 1440p.
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Darkbandit92
09-09-2023, 06:01 AM #16

When the computer crashes, all communication stops and responses cease. This may lead to various symptoms and telemetry at the crash moment, displaying incorrect data. The yellow debug LED indicates a DRAM issue or failure, but it stays lit instead of blinking. During the freeze, the system loses connection to the DRAM briefly, causing the debug LED to flicker. Regarding the power supply, how far is the new PSU located? Also, which make and model are you considering for the third time? The R5 7600X includes an integrated iGPU. If you remove the RTX 4070 and connect a monitor via MoBo, will the system still crash? This setup reduces the load on the PSU and can help determine if the problem lies with the GPU or the graphics card. You could play games using the iGPU, but performance will be significantly lower—around 30 FPS at 720p compared to about 120 FPS at 1440p.

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mjt2789
Senior Member
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09-09-2023, 07:36 AM
#17
I'm sorry, I said it was flashing. It remains on after the crash until it begins to restart.
I plan to borrow a PSU in a few days; I'm not sure which model will be used.
Do you think it's worth trying to measure the ripple with an oscilloscope?
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mjt2789
09-09-2023, 07:36 AM #17

I'm sorry, I said it was flashing. It remains on after the crash until it begins to restart.
I plan to borrow a PSU in a few days; I'm not sure which model will be used.
Do you think it's worth trying to measure the ripple with an oscilloscope?

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MasterChi101
Member
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09-09-2023, 08:24 AM
#18
Gaming increases the demand on the PSU to power the graphics card. Minor power surges may cause problems. There are concerns about your PSU: GIGABYTE GP-P850GM & GP-P750GM POWER SUPPLY STATEMENT | News - GIGABYTE Global GIGABYTE acknowledges some media questioning the quality of the GP-P850GM and GP-P750GM power supplies. The company is proud of the design and standards of its products... www.gigabyte.com Borrow a reliable PSU with adequate power and reliability for testing.
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MasterChi101
09-09-2023, 08:24 AM #18

Gaming increases the demand on the PSU to power the graphics card. Minor power surges may cause problems. There are concerns about your PSU: GIGABYTE GP-P850GM & GP-P750GM POWER SUPPLY STATEMENT | News - GIGABYTE Global GIGABYTE acknowledges some media questioning the quality of the GP-P850GM and GP-P750GM power supplies. The company is proud of the design and standards of its products... www.gigabyte.com Borrow a reliable PSU with adequate power and reliability for testing.

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coolcrab123
Member
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09-10-2023, 09:05 AM
#19
This is wrong; it would happen with a bad PSU.
@Aeacus mentions the P750GM failing, so avoid using it.
You should consider Corsair RMx/Rmi, Seasonic Prime TX/GX, or Leadex III. There are many reliable PSUs available.
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coolcrab123
09-10-2023, 09:05 AM #19

This is wrong; it would happen with a bad PSU.
@Aeacus mentions the P750GM failing, so avoid using it.
You should consider Corsair RMx/Rmi, Seasonic Prime TX/GX, or Leadex III. There are many reliable PSUs available.

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BlueThunder05
Junior Member
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09-10-2023, 08:29 PM
#20
Well, to measure ripple, you need load unit for the PSU, so you can put different kinds of loads on the PSU and then measure the ripple on all rails. E.g here's TH's PSU testing equipment; article: Easy 5K cost in total. But there is no need to further test the already confirmed exploding PSUs. View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aACtT_rzToI Other videos in the saga: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL...rMewAHbkdn
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BlueThunder05
09-10-2023, 08:29 PM #20

Well, to measure ripple, you need load unit for the PSU, so you can put different kinds of loads on the PSU and then measure the ripple on all rails. E.g here's TH's PSU testing equipment; article: Easy 5K cost in total. But there is no need to further test the already confirmed exploding PSUs. View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aACtT_rzToI Other videos in the saga: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL...rMewAHbkdn

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