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992x
Senior Member
506
01-31-2016, 08:17 AM
#1
Hello
I'm planning to overclock my PC and I've only used MSI Afterburner before. If I do it through the BIOS, will the outcomes be identical?
When I overclock from BIOS, am I just boosting the CPU without affecting the GPU?
Also, if I start from BIOS, can I use Afterburner to adjust my GPU settings too? Or would that be a risky approach?
There are additional options like CPU Clock Ratio (currently set at 3.4GHz), which isn't visible in Afterburner—maybe it's better to handle this from BIOS?
I'm currently running Microsoft Flight Simulator, a very demanding game, and sometimes I experience lag despite my setup. Any advice on getting things running smoothly would be greatly appreciated.
Specs:
Mobo: Gigabyte ga-z77m-d3h
Memory: Adata 8gb + Kingston 8gb 1333mhz
PSU: Corsair tx 550m
GPU: Nvidia geforce 1060 gaming x 6gb
CPU: Intel i5 3570k
SSD: Samsung 760 evo + HDD Seagate barracuda 2tb
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992x
01-31-2016, 08:17 AM #1

Hello
I'm planning to overclock my PC and I've only used MSI Afterburner before. If I do it through the BIOS, will the outcomes be identical?
When I overclock from BIOS, am I just boosting the CPU without affecting the GPU?
Also, if I start from BIOS, can I use Afterburner to adjust my GPU settings too? Or would that be a risky approach?
There are additional options like CPU Clock Ratio (currently set at 3.4GHz), which isn't visible in Afterburner—maybe it's better to handle this from BIOS?
I'm currently running Microsoft Flight Simulator, a very demanding game, and sometimes I experience lag despite my setup. Any advice on getting things running smoothly would be greatly appreciated.
Specs:
Mobo: Gigabyte ga-z77m-d3h
Memory: Adata 8gb + Kingston 8gb 1333mhz
PSU: Corsair tx 550m
GPU: Nvidia geforce 1060 gaming x 6gb
CPU: Intel i5 3570k
SSD: Samsung 760 evo + HDD Seagate barracuda 2tb

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SatisfySez
Junior Member
3
01-31-2016, 03:22 PM
#2
MSI afterburner is a tool for GPU overclocking, specifically targeting the graphics card. In BIOS, it handles CPU and memory overclocking, which is another function. Doing both won't damage your system—it's designed for that purpose. I recommend starting with BIOS to stabilize RAM and CPU, then proceed to MSI afterburner to attempt GPU overclocking.
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SatisfySez
01-31-2016, 03:22 PM #2

MSI afterburner is a tool for GPU overclocking, specifically targeting the graphics card. In BIOS, it handles CPU and memory overclocking, which is another function. Doing both won't damage your system—it's designed for that purpose. I recommend starting with BIOS to stabilize RAM and CPU, then proceed to MSI afterburner to attempt GPU overclocking.

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air1226
Member
68
01-31-2016, 11:01 PM
#3
Thanks for the reply. I attempted to increase Turbo values to 4.5GHz but the system wouldn't boot. Then I lowered it to 4.2 and it worked, with the highest temperature reaching around 71°C during a stress test. I found online discussions suggesting that some users achieve 4.5 or 4.6GHz without issues, but my setup seems to prevent this at those frequencies. I'm following this tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxCPyF-1...omPCReview. I increased Turbo Ratio on each of the four cores to 4.5GHz, set Turbo Power limit to 250 (instead of the default 77), and Core Current limit to 250 (instead of the default 112). In the video, the creator adjusts Vcore values that aren't visible in my BIOS. My motherboard is somewhat different from what's shown but similar. Should I aim for 4.5GHz with this configuration, or is there another factor I'm missing? Also, regarding the Internal PLL overvoltage setting—being set to auto, should I enable or disable it to allow higher OC to work?
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air1226
01-31-2016, 11:01 PM #3

Thanks for the reply. I attempted to increase Turbo values to 4.5GHz but the system wouldn't boot. Then I lowered it to 4.2 and it worked, with the highest temperature reaching around 71°C during a stress test. I found online discussions suggesting that some users achieve 4.5 or 4.6GHz without issues, but my setup seems to prevent this at those frequencies. I'm following this tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxCPyF-1...omPCReview. I increased Turbo Ratio on each of the four cores to 4.5GHz, set Turbo Power limit to 250 (instead of the default 77), and Core Current limit to 250 (instead of the default 112). In the video, the creator adjusts Vcore values that aren't visible in my BIOS. My motherboard is somewhat different from what's shown but similar. Should I aim for 4.5GHz with this configuration, or is there another factor I'm missing? Also, regarding the Internal PLL overvoltage setting—being set to auto, should I enable or disable it to allow higher OC to work?

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Milkcow289
Member
62
02-01-2016, 12:55 AM
#4
Well you have a 3570k, which is only advertised for 3.8Ghz. I'm not sure who told you it could go that high, but 3rd generation Intel is definitely not capable of running such high clock speeds without breaking something. It's actually pretty surprising you even got it up to 4.2Ghz.
Anyways, if you truly would like to push it past that, you could do it. The only voltages that go into your CPU should be the SOC voltage, which is usually the main one. Just bump it up to say 1.4 volts, (this is generally the highest voltage you want to push a CPU to) and then adjust your core ratio. Do it in small increments, of say 50 or 100 megahertz each time, stress testing it to see what is stable.
-Side Note- After looking at a picture of your motherboard, it has no MOSFET cooling. MOSFETs are what supplies power to your CPU and take it from your power supply. They convert a 12v power from the PSU to 1.4 or whatever else it needs, but the rest becomes heat, which is why you would need cooling. I would tread very carefully, or even not do it whatsoever after looking at it.
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Milkcow289
02-01-2016, 12:55 AM #4

Well you have a 3570k, which is only advertised for 3.8Ghz. I'm not sure who told you it could go that high, but 3rd generation Intel is definitely not capable of running such high clock speeds without breaking something. It's actually pretty surprising you even got it up to 4.2Ghz.
Anyways, if you truly would like to push it past that, you could do it. The only voltages that go into your CPU should be the SOC voltage, which is usually the main one. Just bump it up to say 1.4 volts, (this is generally the highest voltage you want to push a CPU to) and then adjust your core ratio. Do it in small increments, of say 50 or 100 megahertz each time, stress testing it to see what is stable.
-Side Note- After looking at a picture of your motherboard, it has no MOSFET cooling. MOSFETs are what supplies power to your CPU and take it from your power supply. They convert a 12v power from the PSU to 1.4 or whatever else it needs, but the rest becomes heat, which is why you would need cooling. I would tread very carefully, or even not do it whatsoever after looking at it.

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Potansky
Member
166
02-01-2016, 08:41 AM
#5
I just reviewed all my bios features and didn’t see anything about SOC voltage. Here are the adjustable settings I can change:

CPU/PCIe Base clock (100.00MHz)
Processors graphics clock (1150)
CPU Clock ratio 34
Turbo ratio: 1,2,3,4 Core active (defaults to 36-38)
System memory multiplier 13.33
Internal CPU PLL overvoltage (auto, disabled, enabled) – currently auto
Intel turbo boost technology (auto, disabled, enabled) – currently auto
Turbo power limit (watts) – set to 77
Core current limit (amps) – around 122 (estimated)
CPU core enabled (4)
CPU enhanced halt (C1E)
C3/c6 state support
CPU thermal monitor
CPU EIST function
DRAM timing selectable
DRAM Voltage
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Potansky
02-01-2016, 08:41 AM #5

I just reviewed all my bios features and didn’t see anything about SOC voltage. Here are the adjustable settings I can change:

CPU/PCIe Base clock (100.00MHz)
Processors graphics clock (1150)
CPU Clock ratio 34
Turbo ratio: 1,2,3,4 Core active (defaults to 36-38)
System memory multiplier 13.33
Internal CPU PLL overvoltage (auto, disabled, enabled) – currently auto
Intel turbo boost technology (auto, disabled, enabled) – currently auto
Turbo power limit (watts) – set to 77
Core current limit (amps) – around 122 (estimated)
CPU core enabled (4)
CPU enhanced halt (C1E)
C3/c6 state support
CPU thermal monitor
CPU EIST function
DRAM timing selectable
DRAM Voltage

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Listonosz_Pat
Member
114
02-05-2016, 01:02 AM
#6
You don't simply input a value and wait for results. It involves a repeated cycle. CPU overclocking guide and tutorial for newcomers Explaining the fundamentals. If you arrived at this page, it's probable you're seeking assistance with simple overclocking. Or perhaps you're an experienced overclocker curious about fresh perspectives I might have missed. Be confident, I haven't. This is solely meant as... forums.
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Listonosz_Pat
02-05-2016, 01:02 AM #6

You don't simply input a value and wait for results. It involves a repeated cycle. CPU overclocking guide and tutorial for newcomers Explaining the fundamentals. If you arrived at this page, it's probable you're seeking assistance with simple overclocking. Or perhaps you're an experienced overclocker curious about fresh perspectives I might have missed. Be confident, I haven't. This is solely meant as... forums.

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Zoaxh
Member
147
02-07-2016, 10:14 AM
#7
Yeah I just messed around with some numbers in each section and pressed start
😀
But the guy in the 2012 video said 4.5GHz should work, even got it at 4.8GHz but it overheated... Why can't I reach 4.5GHz?
I don't know which settings to tweak... He only changes Turbo ratios, Turbo power limit and Core current limit... But when I set x45 it won't boot.
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Zoaxh
02-07-2016, 10:14 AM #7

Yeah I just messed around with some numbers in each section and pressed start
😀
But the guy in the 2012 video said 4.5GHz should work, even got it at 4.8GHz but it overheated... Why can't I reach 4.5GHz?
I don't know which settings to tweak... He only changes Turbo ratios, Turbo power limit and Core current limit... But when I set x45 it won't boot.

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Craftzer527
Member
71
02-07-2016, 03:19 PM
#8
It would be interesting to observe how many individuals visit this place after performing a specific action. Pay attention to the details provided. Revisit the information carefully. Each CPU or motherboard pairing has its own capabilities.
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Craftzer527
02-07-2016, 03:19 PM #8

It would be interesting to observe how many individuals visit this place after performing a specific action. Pay attention to the details provided. Revisit the information carefully. Each CPU or motherboard pairing has its own capabilities.

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de3gutter
Junior Member
43
02-07-2016, 04:58 PM
#9
No, the situation involves a third-generation Intel chip with limitations. It's capped at 3.8 ghz as specified by Intel. You won't achieve stable 4.5 ghz without liquid nitrogen. If you manage 4.2, it's satisfactory. For serious performance gains, consider upgrading the chip instead.
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de3gutter
02-07-2016, 04:58 PM #9

No, the situation involves a third-generation Intel chip with limitations. It's capped at 3.8 ghz as specified by Intel. You won't achieve stable 4.5 ghz without liquid nitrogen. If you manage 4.2, it's satisfactory. For serious performance gains, consider upgrading the chip instead.

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Jayhawk_Down
Senior Member
350
02-14-2016, 06:49 AM
#10
Be mindful of the assumptions you draw from online claims. My i5-3570k would only achieve 4.3GHz after significant tweaks, wouldn’t stay stable at 4.4GHz even with a vcore of 1.55v. I gave it a shot. 4.3GHz with 1.114v worked fine.
My i7-3770K is essentially the same CPU as the 3570k when HT is turned on, and I managed to reach 5.0GHz at 1.42v or 4.9GHz at 1.32v. At 4.3GHz it was around 1.08v.
This phenomenon is known as the Silicon Lottery, and all CPUs are affected by it—some perform better than others.
A lot of misconceptions. It’s not worth chasing LN2 for 4.5GHz; even older NH-D14 models were sufficient for those high-TDP CPUs at that frequency. In general, almost every 3570/k or 3770/k could reach 4.2 or 4.3GHz because Ivy Bridge allowed turbo boost up to an additional 400MHz, regardless of whether it was a K-core or not.
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Jayhawk_Down
02-14-2016, 06:49 AM #10

Be mindful of the assumptions you draw from online claims. My i5-3570k would only achieve 4.3GHz after significant tweaks, wouldn’t stay stable at 4.4GHz even with a vcore of 1.55v. I gave it a shot. 4.3GHz with 1.114v worked fine.
My i7-3770K is essentially the same CPU as the 3570k when HT is turned on, and I managed to reach 5.0GHz at 1.42v or 4.9GHz at 1.32v. At 4.3GHz it was around 1.08v.
This phenomenon is known as the Silicon Lottery, and all CPUs are affected by it—some perform better than others.
A lot of misconceptions. It’s not worth chasing LN2 for 4.5GHz; even older NH-D14 models were sufficient for those high-TDP CPUs at that frequency. In general, almost every 3570/k or 3770/k could reach 4.2 or 4.3GHz because Ivy Bridge allowed turbo boost up to an additional 400MHz, regardless of whether it was a K-core or not.

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