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Question Friends RTX 5090 FE and 7800x3d compared to my Asus RTX 5090 and 9800x3d...

Question Friends RTX 5090 FE and 7800x3d compared to my Asus RTX 5090 and 9800x3d...

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ItsTheSoul
Senior Member
410
07-22-2023, 08:11 PM
#1
So my friend's setup includes an SFF Build with a 5090FE and a 7800x3d GPU, negative 20 All Core Undervolt, and the GPU limit is at 90%. The system runs stock, with RAM at 6400MHz. In Cyberpunk 2077 we push settings high, using Frame Gen 4x at 4K resolution and around 220 FPS with DLSS quality, but he's only managing 275 FPS. This pattern repeats in Witcher 3 as well. I'm looking for any hint on how he can boost to 50 FPS more with Frame Gen, and this issue persists across all Frame Gen levels, even doubling or tripling them. I've also tested matching his CPU and GPU settings without much change, but RT Overdrive with DLSS at Quality still gives 60-70 FPS.
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ItsTheSoul
07-22-2023, 08:11 PM #1

So my friend's setup includes an SFF Build with a 5090FE and a 7800x3d GPU, negative 20 All Core Undervolt, and the GPU limit is at 90%. The system runs stock, with RAM at 6400MHz. In Cyberpunk 2077 we push settings high, using Frame Gen 4x at 4K resolution and around 220 FPS with DLSS quality, but he's only managing 275 FPS. This pattern repeats in Witcher 3 as well. I'm looking for any hint on how he can boost to 50 FPS more with Frame Gen, and this issue persists across all Frame Gen levels, even doubling or tripling them. I've also tested matching his CPU and GPU settings without much change, but RT Overdrive with DLSS at Quality still gives 60-70 FPS.

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LorrenK
Senior Member
703
07-24-2023, 10:48 AM
#2
We're going to need more context to see if you're comparing an apple to an apple. Please list the specs to your build like so:
CPU:
CPU cooler:
Motherboard:
Ram:
SSD/HDD:
GPU:
PSU:
Chassis:
OS:
Monitor:
include the age of the PSU apart from it's make and model. BIOS version for your motherboard at this moment of time.
^ Since you mentioned your friend's system as well, we're going to be seeing two sets of specs, one for you and one for your friend.
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LorrenK
07-24-2023, 10:48 AM #2

We're going to need more context to see if you're comparing an apple to an apple. Please list the specs to your build like so:
CPU:
CPU cooler:
Motherboard:
Ram:
SSD/HDD:
GPU:
PSU:
Chassis:
OS:
Monitor:
include the age of the PSU apart from it's make and model. BIOS version for your motherboard at this moment of time.
^ Since you mentioned your friend's system as well, we're going to be seeing two sets of specs, one for you and one for your friend.

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horselover328
Member
148
07-24-2023, 02:27 PM
#3
CPU: 9800x3d
CPU cooler: Asus Ryujin III 360 with Noctua Fans
Motherboard: Asus Rog Strix x870-E Gaming Wifi
Ram: Corsair 64gb 6400mhz 32CL
SSD/HDD: 4tb WD Black NVME plus a 2TB drive
GPU: ASUS Tuff rtx 5090 OC edition
PSU: MSI MEG Ai1300P PCIE5 1300W
Chassis: Antec Flux Pro
OS: Windows 11 Pro 24h2 26100.3624 (no updates available from what I can see)
Monitor: Alienware 32 inch OLED 4k 240hz
PSU is brand new, installed just two days ago, so the MOBO and AIO are fresh, along with the CPU. The GPU might be a month old, and the 4TB SSD is also recent.
MOBO BIOS version 1203 was updated yesterday; RESIZE bar is enabled. BIOS settings are set to Default. I’ll share my friends’ posts once they’re ready.
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horselover328
07-24-2023, 02:27 PM #3

CPU: 9800x3d
CPU cooler: Asus Ryujin III 360 with Noctua Fans
Motherboard: Asus Rog Strix x870-E Gaming Wifi
Ram: Corsair 64gb 6400mhz 32CL
SSD/HDD: 4tb WD Black NVME plus a 2TB drive
GPU: ASUS Tuff rtx 5090 OC edition
PSU: MSI MEG Ai1300P PCIE5 1300W
Chassis: Antec Flux Pro
OS: Windows 11 Pro 24h2 26100.3624 (no updates available from what I can see)
Monitor: Alienware 32 inch OLED 4k 240hz
PSU is brand new, installed just two days ago, so the MOBO and AIO are fresh, along with the CPU. The GPU might be a month old, and the 4TB SSD is also recent.
MOBO BIOS version 1203 was updated yesterday; RESIZE bar is enabled. BIOS settings are set to Default. I’ll share my friends’ posts once they’re ready.

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Piereson
Junior Member
6
07-25-2023, 04:52 PM
#4
cpu: 7800x3
dcooler: NH-L12 Ghost S1
motherboard: Gigabyte B650i Rev.1ram:
G.skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 32gb (2 x 16gb) DDR5 6000 CL:30
ssd: 990 Pro 1TB, Team Group MP33 2TB
gpu: 5090 Founder's Edition
psu: Thermaltake Toughpower SFX 1000w 80Plus Platinum ATX 3.1 (under 2 months of use)
chassis: Fractal Design Ridgeos
windows 11
monitor: AW3225QF
motherboard bios: F34
these are my buddies' items.
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Piereson
07-25-2023, 04:52 PM #4

cpu: 7800x3
dcooler: NH-L12 Ghost S1
motherboard: Gigabyte B650i Rev.1ram:
G.skill Trident Z5 Neo RGB 32gb (2 x 16gb) DDR5 6000 CL:30
ssd: 990 Pro 1TB, Team Group MP33 2TB
gpu: 5090 Founder's Edition
psu: Thermaltake Toughpower SFX 1000w 80Plus Platinum ATX 3.1 (under 2 months of use)
chassis: Fractal Design Ridgeos
windows 11
monitor: AW3225QF
motherboard bios: F34
these are my buddies' items.

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xAuDesignsx
Member
214
07-25-2023, 08:07 PM
#5
Same startup and software options available? Not restricted to antivirus/malware; includes fan/pump control, instead of bios... LED control, wallpaper... Each program uses minimal resources individually, but together they add up quickly. A 25% difference between 275 and 220fps is significant, especially with the same hardware*, though software differences matter more. An exception exists for the 8 missing ROPs in the 50 series – brand or vendor doesn’t matter. Use GPU-Z to verify ROP counts: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/ge...5090.c4216. The 5090 model should have 176 ROPs; if it shows 168, the device may be faulty. You can choose to return/RMA or continue using.
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xAuDesignsx
07-25-2023, 08:07 PM #5

Same startup and software options available? Not restricted to antivirus/malware; includes fan/pump control, instead of bios... LED control, wallpaper... Each program uses minimal resources individually, but together they add up quickly. A 25% difference between 275 and 220fps is significant, especially with the same hardware*, though software differences matter more. An exception exists for the 8 missing ROPs in the 50 series – brand or vendor doesn’t matter. Use GPU-Z to verify ROP counts: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/ge...5090.c4216. The 5090 model should have 176 ROPs; if it shows 168, the device may be faulty. You can choose to return/RMA or continue using.

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loicartur
Junior Member
17
07-27-2023, 02:58 PM
#6
Yeah I have everything set up. Last night I uninstalled my GPU drivers with DDU and after reinstalling it, my FPS jumped to 311 finally!!! But since I moved to Witcher 3, the FPS stayed the same as before I tested it. So I went back to CP2077 and I was at 220fps... not sure what's going on. It seems like both of us are just using Windows Anti-Virus. I got 0 LEDs on mine and he has a SFF build with a 90% power limit on his GPU.
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loicartur
07-27-2023, 02:58 PM #6

Yeah I have everything set up. Last night I uninstalled my GPU drivers with DDU and after reinstalling it, my FPS jumped to 311 finally!!! But since I moved to Witcher 3, the FPS stayed the same as before I tested it. So I went back to CP2077 and I was at 220fps... not sure what's going on. It seems like both of us are just using Windows Anti-Virus. I got 0 LEDs on mine and he has a SFF build with a 90% power limit on his GPU.