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Question about an LLC

Question about an LLC

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seigneurZOZ
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01-12-2016, 03:02 PM
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Hello. I have a question about using an LLC for your Asus board setup. You're using an M11 Apex with a 9900KF and want to know where the recommendations come from. The page you linked suggests manual 1.2V, but your tests show different voltages depending on the type of LLC used. Your experience shows that with LLC5, the voltage stays around 1.22V with an overshoot of 20mV, while LLC6 gives 1.24V and 1.27V respectively. It seems the recommended values might depend on your specific setup and requirements. Could someone clarify why LLC5 is suggested and whether switching to LLC6 would be better for your case? Thank you!
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seigneurZOZ
01-12-2016, 03:02 PM #1

Hello. I have a question about using an LLC for your Asus board setup. You're using an M11 Apex with a 9900KF and want to know where the recommendations come from. The page you linked suggests manual 1.2V, but your tests show different voltages depending on the type of LLC used. Your experience shows that with LLC5, the voltage stays around 1.22V with an overshoot of 20mV, while LLC6 gives 1.24V and 1.27V respectively. It seems the recommended values might depend on your specific setup and requirements. Could someone clarify why LLC5 is suggested and whether switching to LLC6 would be better for your case? Thank you!

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nenette24
Member
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01-26-2016, 08:04 AM
#2
This video clarifies things simply, showing how to fight against Vdroop and offer extra stability during overclocking.
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nenette24
01-26-2016, 08:04 AM #2

This video clarifies things simply, showing how to fight against Vdroop and offer extra stability during overclocking.

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assassinsboy
Junior Member
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01-26-2016, 08:48 AM
#3
Thank you for your feedback. Your question remains unclear, and I appreciate your effort to clarify. Based on the discussion, it seems many recommend LLC 5 due to its balance of voltage and overshoot. However, some suggest higher values like LLC 6 for better performance. The key points are that higher voltages can help but should be managed carefully. For your situation, using LLC 5 might align with typical expectations, while LLC 6 could offer improved results depending on your setup. Since you're testing yourself, consider running your current profile and see how it behaves before making a change.
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assassinsboy
01-26-2016, 08:48 AM #3

Thank you for your feedback. Your question remains unclear, and I appreciate your effort to clarify. Based on the discussion, it seems many recommend LLC 5 due to its balance of voltage and overshoot. However, some suggest higher values like LLC 6 for better performance. The key points are that higher voltages can help but should be managed carefully. For your situation, using LLC 5 might align with typical expectations, while LLC 6 could offer improved results depending on your setup. Since you're testing yourself, consider running your current profile and see how it behaves before making a change.

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Shibouh
Senior Member
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01-26-2016, 03:17 PM
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LLC 5 is suggested since LLC 6 would exceed the voltage beyond your vcore value without any adjustment. Setting it to 5 stops performance loss under heavy loads.
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Shibouh
01-26-2016, 03:17 PM #4

LLC 5 is suggested since LLC 6 would exceed the voltage beyond your vcore value without any adjustment. Setting it to 5 stops performance loss under heavy loads.

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theicefrenzy
Member
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01-27-2016, 12:30 PM
#5
without any offset, the settings look like this: Adaptiv with LLC 6 at 1.3V offset of -0.080, idle around 1.225-1.23V, non-AVX load at 1.18V and AVX at 1.2V, while for LLC 5 it's 1.3 offset -0.010 with idle at 1.290V. If I change something else, the voltage seems off.
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theicefrenzy
01-27-2016, 12:30 PM #5

without any offset, the settings look like this: Adaptiv with LLC 6 at 1.3V offset of -0.080, idle around 1.225-1.23V, non-AVX load at 1.18V and AVX at 1.2V, while for LLC 5 it's 1.3 offset -0.010 with idle at 1.290V. If I change something else, the voltage seems off.

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MontyPig
Junior Member
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02-03-2016, 03:23 AM
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Adaptive settings around 5-6 may cause a slight overshoot. In adaptive mode, artificial stress tests usually lead to higher voltage than intended, resulting in unreliable data. Therefore, avoid such tests when adaptive is active. Programs like Cinebench provide more realistic stress testing without causing excessive voltage spikes. If you can lower the LLC value as much as possible while keeping stability, I generally stick below 5, though this varies based on your board and CPU.
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MontyPig
02-03-2016, 03:23 AM #6

Adaptive settings around 5-6 may cause a slight overshoot. In adaptive mode, artificial stress tests usually lead to higher voltage than intended, resulting in unreliable data. Therefore, avoid such tests when adaptive is active. Programs like Cinebench provide more realistic stress testing without causing excessive voltage spikes. If you can lower the LLC value as much as possible while keeping stability, I generally stick below 5, though this varies based on your board and CPU.