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Problems with Ryzen 5 3600 and MSI B450 Tomahawk setup

Problems with Ryzen 5 3600 and MSI B450 Tomahawk setup

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iSukAtParkor
Junior Member
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11-20-2019, 01:11 AM
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Hey everyone. I'm facing a tricky situation. I swapped my Deepcool tower cooler for an EVGA CLC 280 AIO, but after the change I encountered some problems. On first start-up, the CPU error LED lit up, video didn't boot, and I couldn't access BIOS. After a few reboots it worked fine. Recently I installed Windows updates and rebooted again—still no success. Now I can't even get back into Windows.

On my motherboard I see a red LED on the CPU and no video output. I checked my RAM, trying different sticks in various positions, but nothing changed. I'm confused about what might have caused this after the cooler replacement. I know my thermal paste improved afterward, so it probably wasn't overheating. The board is an MSI B450 Tomahawk non-Max, and I updated the BIOS before upgrading from the 2600 to this CPU.

I'm in a remote area with limited access to used parts, so I'm thinking about testing a used 1st or 2nd gen CPU instead. If I remove the battery or reset the CMOS, will that clear the BIOS update I installed? I haven't tried it yet but was wondering. My sister's system is only a few hours away, and I don't want to risk losing the new board by trying to test it.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
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iSukAtParkor
11-20-2019, 01:11 AM #1

Hey everyone. I'm facing a tricky situation. I swapped my Deepcool tower cooler for an EVGA CLC 280 AIO, but after the change I encountered some problems. On first start-up, the CPU error LED lit up, video didn't boot, and I couldn't access BIOS. After a few reboots it worked fine. Recently I installed Windows updates and rebooted again—still no success. Now I can't even get back into Windows.

On my motherboard I see a red LED on the CPU and no video output. I checked my RAM, trying different sticks in various positions, but nothing changed. I'm confused about what might have caused this after the cooler replacement. I know my thermal paste improved afterward, so it probably wasn't overheating. The board is an MSI B450 Tomahawk non-Max, and I updated the BIOS before upgrading from the 2600 to this CPU.

I'm in a remote area with limited access to used parts, so I'm thinking about testing a used 1st or 2nd gen CPU instead. If I remove the battery or reset the CMOS, will that clear the BIOS update I installed? I haven't tried it yet but was wondering. My sister's system is only a few hours away, and I don't want to risk losing the new board by trying to test it.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

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derk4321
Senior Member
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11-20-2019, 02:35 AM
#2
You can remove the battery to reset the CMOS. However, it's possible you adjusted the cooler too much.
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derk4321
11-20-2019, 02:35 AM #2

You can remove the battery to reset the CMOS. However, it's possible you adjusted the cooler too much.

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united32
Senior Member
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11-26-2019, 02:25 AM
#3
Resetting CMOS or removing the battery won’t change the BIOS version. Once a BIOS is updated, it stays that way. Clearing CMOS helps remove any extra data that might be causing issues. If only the cooler was changed, the problem likely lies elsewhere. Give a thorough reset by clearing CMOS and ensuring your power cables are properly connected. Verify the pump fan is set to the correct header before trying again. You can’t effectively stop the CPU without shutting it down or running it while powered on unless you damaged the cooler beyond repair.
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united32
11-26-2019, 02:25 AM #3

Resetting CMOS or removing the battery won’t change the BIOS version. Once a BIOS is updated, it stays that way. Clearing CMOS helps remove any extra data that might be causing issues. If only the cooler was changed, the problem likely lies elsewhere. Give a thorough reset by clearing CMOS and ensuring your power cables are properly connected. Verify the pump fan is set to the correct header before trying again. You can’t effectively stop the CPU without shutting it down or running it while powered on unless you damaged the cooler beyond repair.

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Peteechops25
Member
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11-26-2019, 08:00 AM
#4
I don't think that's correct. I verified the mounting and didn't over-tighten anything during installation.
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Peteechops25
11-26-2019, 08:00 AM #4

I don't think that's correct. I verified the mounting and didn't over-tighten anything during installation.

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pegasusXman
Member
194
11-30-2019, 06:59 PM
#5
You might try removing the cooler to check for posting, or you could always reinsert the CPU. You mentioned the issue was with the CPU.
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pegasusXman
11-30-2019, 06:59 PM #5

You might try removing the cooler to check for posting, or you could always reinsert the CPU. You mentioned the issue was with the CPU.

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THEKAIST
Junior Member
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11-30-2019, 08:22 PM
#6
I confirmed the cooler was taken out to inspect for issues and then repositioned the CPU.
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THEKAIST
11-30-2019, 08:22 PM #6

I confirmed the cooler was taken out to inspect for issues and then repositioned the CPU.

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Dman27315
Junior Member
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11-30-2019, 08:51 PM
#7
I meant to start the system without the cooler. Just to share, going to the BIOS won’t heat it up enough to cause harm. This should help verify if the problem is related to pressure buildup.
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Dman27315
11-30-2019, 08:51 PM #7

I meant to start the system without the cooler. Just to share, going to the BIOS won’t heat it up enough to cause harm. This should help verify if the problem is related to pressure buildup.

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Noxder_oJ
Member
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12-13-2019, 11:29 PM
#8
Apologies for the confusion. I'll make sure to follow up later today.
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Noxder_oJ
12-13-2019, 11:29 PM #8

Apologies for the confusion. I'll make sure to follow up later today.

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johncena3
Member
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12-13-2019, 11:40 PM
#9
You're confused about your setup. It seems to work without the CPU block, but it boots normally the first time and then fails after a restart. This might mean your AIO isn't meeting the required specifications. The lack of resistance during installation could also indicate an issue.
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johncena3
12-13-2019, 11:40 PM #9

You're confused about your setup. It seems to work without the CPU block, but it boots normally the first time and then fails after a restart. This might mean your AIO isn't meeting the required specifications. The lack of resistance during installation could also indicate an issue.

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Noahsno
Junior Member
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12-14-2019, 08:26 PM
#10
Did you alter the backplate? There could be an issue there. I’d simply begin at square 1, remove everything, test the boot outside the case with the cooler, and then reinstall.
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Noahsno
12-14-2019, 08:26 PM #10

Did you alter the backplate? There could be an issue there. I’d simply begin at square 1, remove everything, test the boot outside the case with the cooler, and then reinstall.

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