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Problem Arises From Frequent Restarts (No Error Messages).

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Darkbandit92
Posting Freak
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08-29-2023, 07:48 PM
#11
I believe I identified the issue.
When I turn on EXPO, the crashes become much more common.
Could this indicate a defective Memory controller or CPU? Even though it functioned properly in the initial weeks?
Or are the unstable EXPO configurations the problem? Is there a way to balance this by adjusting the voltage somewhere?
I also tried raising the SOC voltage but the issue persisted.
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Darkbandit92
08-29-2023, 07:48 PM #11

I believe I identified the issue.
When I turn on EXPO, the crashes become much more common.
Could this indicate a defective Memory controller or CPU? Even though it functioned properly in the initial weeks?
Or are the unstable EXPO configurations the problem? Is there a way to balance this by adjusting the voltage somewhere?
I also tried raising the SOC voltage but the issue persisted.

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BearOP
Junior Member
15
08-30-2023, 12:30 AM
#12
It might be best to turn off EXPO. After a few days, check if the system remains stable. If needed, adjust slightly and wait again. Continue this process until stability is confirmed. Monitor performance closely and record observations.
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BearOP
08-30-2023, 12:30 AM #12

It might be best to turn off EXPO. After a few days, check if the system remains stable. If needed, adjust slightly and wait again. Continue this process until stability is confirmed. Monitor performance closely and record observations.

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ProjectRyanX
Junior Member
26
08-30-2023, 11:38 PM
#13
I've struggled to get this PC to run smoothly for a long time. I increased the SOC up to 1.3v and adjusted the RAM voltages to 1.4v, which reduced the crashes to once a day under light use. It seems the memory controller might be faulty, as I can only run at 5200 and not higher. Even trying CL32 didn't help much.

I'm considering replacing this CPU and sending it back for repair or opting for a different model. The issue is strange because all tests—whether using different RAM settings, speeds, or stress tests—pass without problems. However, when I run low-load tasks like YouTube or games in the main menu, it crashes within about 10 minutes.

I'm not sure what else could be causing this, but I'm open to suggestions. If anyone has ideas, I'd really appreciate it. Otherwise, I might just have to give up now, even though it bothers me a lot.
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ProjectRyanX
08-30-2023, 11:38 PM #13

I've struggled to get this PC to run smoothly for a long time. I increased the SOC up to 1.3v and adjusted the RAM voltages to 1.4v, which reduced the crashes to once a day under light use. It seems the memory controller might be faulty, as I can only run at 5200 and not higher. Even trying CL32 didn't help much.

I'm considering replacing this CPU and sending it back for repair or opting for a different model. The issue is strange because all tests—whether using different RAM settings, speeds, or stress tests—pass without problems. However, when I run low-load tasks like YouTube or games in the main menu, it crashes within about 10 minutes.

I'm not sure what else could be causing this, but I'm open to suggestions. If anyone has ideas, I'd really appreciate it. Otherwise, I might just have to give up now, even though it bothers me a lot.

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War_Blade
Junior Member
18
09-01-2023, 08:01 PM
#14
I've been experiencing the same problem with my 7900xtx and 7800x3d, noticing similar posts about this issue on the same GPU and CPU. It makes me think it might be related.
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War_Blade
09-01-2023, 08:01 PM #14

I've been experiencing the same problem with my 7900xtx and 7800x3d, noticing similar posts about this issue on the same GPU and CPU. It makes me think it might be related.

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Summer_Cool
Member
175
09-01-2023, 09:01 PM
#15
I really can't seem to figure out what's going on.
I've been concentrating on my RAM but I'm pretty sure it's not the issue right now.
Most RAM stress tests pass without any problems.
I also used another set of RAM which caused the same problem.
Things seemed okay for a while, but then it keeps crashing unexpectedly.
It's completely random, but it seems to occur more when the system is under light load rather than heavy. What do you think?
I'm pretty sure it's not the GPU either. I used a 7600X on the same motherboard for about four months without any issues, along with a 7900XT.
My troubles began after switching to a 7900XTX and a 7800x3D.
I'm starting to think the CPU might be the problem now, so I'll do some tests in that direction and possibly replace it if necessary.
Since this also happens during low loads/idle or even right after turning on, I'm pretty sure it's not the GPU either. It also works well under full load (Furmark, 3dmark, etc.)
What have you tried so far?
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Summer_Cool
09-01-2023, 09:01 PM #15

I really can't seem to figure out what's going on.
I've been concentrating on my RAM but I'm pretty sure it's not the issue right now.
Most RAM stress tests pass without any problems.
I also used another set of RAM which caused the same problem.
Things seemed okay for a while, but then it keeps crashing unexpectedly.
It's completely random, but it seems to occur more when the system is under light load rather than heavy. What do you think?
I'm pretty sure it's not the GPU either. I used a 7600X on the same motherboard for about four months without any issues, along with a 7900XT.
My troubles began after switching to a 7900XTX and a 7800x3D.
I'm starting to think the CPU might be the problem now, so I'll do some tests in that direction and possibly replace it if necessary.
Since this also happens during low loads/idle or even right after turning on, I'm pretty sure it's not the GPU either. It also works well under full load (Furmark, 3dmark, etc.)
What have you tried so far?

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diegoiav
Member
101
09-03-2023, 06:21 AM
#16
I read another comment mentioning the updated AMD chipset drivers and that disabling freesync contributed to their success. I plan to give it a try, though if it doesn't work, I might need to invest in replacements.
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diegoiav
09-03-2023, 06:21 AM #16

I read another comment mentioning the updated AMD chipset drivers and that disabling freesync contributed to their success. I plan to give it a try, though if it doesn't work, I might need to invest in replacements.

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RamboPvPz
Member
50
09-04-2023, 01:36 AM
#17
Unfortunately that didn't assist, so I'm going to attempt a few methods I found on Reddit that might help others with the 7800x3d.

"I believe I resolved this for anyone encountering it: turned off global C states in the BIOS and configured the Windows power plan to high performance."

"You may need to remove AMD's 3D V-Cache optimizer and PPM Provisioning, as these are primarily used for the 7900X3D and 7950X3D to manage scheduling for the two CCDs. Gigabyte bundles this functionality with the chipset driver when it shouldn't be. Begin by installing [DriverStore Explorer](https://github.com/lostindark/DriverStor...r/releases). Launch the program, scroll down to 'AMD 3D V-Cache Optimizer', delete the driver, and restart.

Additionally, open Device Manager -> System Devices, disable 'AMD PPM Provisioning File'. This should help with any scheduling problems."
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RamboPvPz
09-04-2023, 01:36 AM #17

Unfortunately that didn't assist, so I'm going to attempt a few methods I found on Reddit that might help others with the 7800x3d.

"I believe I resolved this for anyone encountering it: turned off global C states in the BIOS and configured the Windows power plan to high performance."

"You may need to remove AMD's 3D V-Cache optimizer and PPM Provisioning, as these are primarily used for the 7900X3D and 7950X3D to manage scheduling for the two CCDs. Gigabyte bundles this functionality with the chipset driver when it shouldn't be. Begin by installing [DriverStore Explorer](https://github.com/lostindark/DriverStor...r/releases). Launch the program, scroll down to 'AMD 3D V-Cache Optimizer', delete the driver, and restart.

Additionally, open Device Manager -> System Devices, disable 'AMD PPM Provisioning File'. This should help with any scheduling problems."

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numblegs26
Member
197
09-04-2023, 10:30 AM
#18
I'm experiencing the same problems on my PC too
Ryzen 5500
48gb Trident Z DDR4 RAM
RTX 3070
I've tried turning off the fans (believed one might be shorting and triggering protection)
Tried other CPUs, different RAM setups, two more GPUs (2070 Super and 1070), a different PSU and motherboard.
Still facing this exact issue regardless of changes.
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numblegs26
09-04-2023, 10:30 AM #18

I'm experiencing the same problems on my PC too
Ryzen 5500
48gb Trident Z DDR4 RAM
RTX 3070
I've tried turning off the fans (believed one might be shorting and triggering protection)
Tried other CPUs, different RAM setups, two more GPUs (2070 Super and 1070), a different PSU and motherboard.
Still facing this exact issue regardless of changes.

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ChiamatemiGino
Junior Member
21
09-05-2023, 04:24 AM
#19
I also tried this before. Yesterday I completely swapped out my CPU, but it didn’t help, so it might not be a CPU problem either. The only parts I haven’t replaced are the GPU. It could be either a faulty GPU or just bad drivers. I’ve noticed many issues with the 7000 series regarding drivers. I’ve tested numerous driver versions, but none seem to work properly. They probably can’t all be defective? My current one crashes only once every couple of days, which isn’t too much, but it’s still frustrating to realize something is wrong.
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ChiamatemiGino
09-05-2023, 04:24 AM #19

I also tried this before. Yesterday I completely swapped out my CPU, but it didn’t help, so it might not be a CPU problem either. The only parts I haven’t replaced are the GPU. It could be either a faulty GPU or just bad drivers. I’ve noticed many issues with the 7000 series regarding drivers. I’ve tested numerous driver versions, but none seem to work properly. They probably can’t all be defective? My current one crashes only once every couple of days, which isn’t too much, but it’s still frustrating to realize something is wrong.

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lps11
Junior Member
9
09-05-2023, 02:50 PM
#20
Sorry to hear that, it's difficult to find the issue.
I've been working on it for roughly a month and I'm still unsure what's causing it.
Have you attempted to reinstall your windows?
From a hardware standpoint, everything seems to have been replaced, so it's unlikely the problem is related to the hardware.
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lps11
09-05-2023, 02:50 PM #20

Sorry to hear that, it's difficult to find the issue.
I've been working on it for roughly a month and I'm still unsure what's causing it.
Have you attempted to reinstall your windows?
From a hardware standpoint, everything seems to have been replaced, so it's unlikely the problem is related to the hardware.

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