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Phone wires carrying Ethernet without VDSL technology

Phone wires carrying Ethernet without VDSL technology

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ImDirtyDan63
Junior Member
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07-18-2020, 02:32 AM
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Hey everyone, just a quick note about my background. We’re currently in a house with Ethernet over powerline, but since the router is on a separate circuit, the speed is pretty low. There’s no coax or Ethernet cabling left—just powerline and phone wires, which we’ve stopped using as we switched to IP-based phones (DECT). I heard about MOCA (Ethernet over Coax) and thought maybe we could repurpose the existing phone wires for Ethernet. Some general info about the place: the PC is on the second floor above the router, and the walls are made of bricks, making it hard to install new wiring easily. From a German contact.
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ImDirtyDan63
07-18-2020, 02:32 AM #1

Hey everyone, just a quick note about my background. We’re currently in a house with Ethernet over powerline, but since the router is on a separate circuit, the speed is pretty low. There’s no coax or Ethernet cabling left—just powerline and phone wires, which we’ve stopped using as we switched to IP-based phones (DECT). I heard about MOCA (Ethernet over Coax) and thought maybe we could repurpose the existing phone wires for Ethernet. Some general info about the place: the PC is on the second floor above the router, and the walls are made of bricks, making it hard to install new wiring easily. From a German contact.

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husker53
Posting Freak
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07-19-2020, 10:41 PM
#2
Tying an Ethernet cable to your phone wire and pulling it through the wall is manageable. You can extend the cable beyond the wall, possibly to the roof or second floor, as long as you plan the routing carefully.
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husker53
07-19-2020, 10:41 PM #2

Tying an Ethernet cable to your phone wire and pulling it through the wall is manageable. You can extend the cable beyond the wall, possibly to the roof or second floor, as long as you plan the routing carefully.

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DreamDragon
Member
201
07-21-2020, 02:15 AM
#3
It wouldn't be wise to attempt using your phone lines as Ethernet. Initially, this would restrict you to just 10mbps because standard phone cables use only two pairs, unlike modern Cat5 which supports higher speeds. Another concern is interference from cross-talk since phone wiring isn't designed as twisted pairs. While technically possible, I strongly recommend against it. It would be much easier for a professional to either replace the cable or install it through a wall or outside with Cat5.
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DreamDragon
07-21-2020, 02:15 AM #3

It wouldn't be wise to attempt using your phone lines as Ethernet. Initially, this would restrict you to just 10mbps because standard phone cables use only two pairs, unlike modern Cat5 which supports higher speeds. Another concern is interference from cross-talk since phone wiring isn't designed as twisted pairs. While technically possible, I strongly recommend against it. It would be much easier for a professional to either replace the cable or install it through a wall or outside with Cat5.

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ProAssas1n
Junior Member
29
07-21-2020, 09:31 AM
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I believe it wouldn't be difficult if you managed to extract the phone wire... it seems to be securely attached to the wall using the cement they applied during construction. Thanks for your tip, @MarbleHornets. I plan to have a professional redo it.
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ProAssas1n
07-21-2020, 09:31 AM #4

I believe it wouldn't be difficult if you managed to extract the phone wire... it seems to be securely attached to the wall using the cement they applied during construction. Thanks for your tip, @MarbleHornets. I plan to have a professional redo it.

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Jesuss_
Member
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07-21-2020, 11:01 AM
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Discounting VDSL despite its intended purpose seems counterintuitive since it was built for that specific use. The focus should remain on achieving a properly wired Ethernet connection, which offers superior performance.
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Jesuss_
07-21-2020, 11:01 AM #5

Discounting VDSL despite its intended purpose seems counterintuitive since it was built for that specific use. The focus should remain on achieving a properly wired Ethernet connection, which offers superior performance.