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Performance of RAM slots on ITX boards matches that of M-ATX models??

Performance of RAM slots on ITX boards matches that of M-ATX models??

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MinecratBoss1
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03-25-2016, 12:10 AM
#11
I've noticed some people achieving high speeds with four DDR5 modules on AM5. It's frustrating, honestly. I also purchased another pair to try the same, but it was really tough to get them to run quickly. In contrast, AM4 handled four sticks smoothly without any issues.
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MinecratBoss1
03-25-2016, 12:10 AM #11

I've noticed some people achieving high speeds with four DDR5 modules on AM5. It's frustrating, honestly. I also purchased another pair to try the same, but it was really tough to get them to run quickly. In contrast, AM4 handled four sticks smoothly without any issues.

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IPuckFenguins
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03-25-2016, 06:30 AM
#12
It’s just a waste of time. If 128GB isn’t enough RAM (something that works now on 1DPC boards), you’re unlikely to be using a mainstream platform at all. Every board can learn from what Apex, Tachyon and Gene discovered. Simpler for newcomers and more effective for high-frequency tuning. Regardless, they won’t try it, so you’ll end up with 2DPC boards where two slots remain empty in most situations.
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IPuckFenguins
03-25-2016, 06:30 AM #12

It’s just a waste of time. If 128GB isn’t enough RAM (something that works now on 1DPC boards), you’re unlikely to be using a mainstream platform at all. Every board can learn from what Apex, Tachyon and Gene discovered. Simpler for newcomers and more effective for high-frequency tuning. Regardless, they won’t try it, so you’ll end up with 2DPC boards where two slots remain empty in most situations.

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Sapphire01
Junior Member
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03-25-2016, 06:51 AM
#13
It's tough to achieve high-speed RAM using four sticks on AM4 with Zen 1, especially since 64GB configurations aren't available yet and even if they were, they wouldn't be fast. It's simpler to find good 24GB sticks rather than 48GB ones. The main issue with 4DIMMs is that you only have two dimensions, so upgrading your RAM would just require buying two more sticks. You don’t need to waste space or replace existing good ones. Two sticks are sufficient for ITX builds and overclocking setups because of size constraints or long-term reliability needs. I’ve never had a PC where RAM wasn’t upgraded at some point, and I’m considering going back to the Apple II. Spending around $100 for similar performance is better than investing $300.
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Sapphire01
03-25-2016, 06:51 AM #13

It's tough to achieve high-speed RAM using four sticks on AM4 with Zen 1, especially since 64GB configurations aren't available yet and even if they were, they wouldn't be fast. It's simpler to find good 24GB sticks rather than 48GB ones. The main issue with 4DIMMs is that you only have two dimensions, so upgrading your RAM would just require buying two more sticks. You don’t need to waste space or replace existing good ones. Two sticks are sufficient for ITX builds and overclocking setups because of size constraints or long-term reliability needs. I’ve never had a PC where RAM wasn’t upgraded at some point, and I’m considering going back to the Apple II. Spending around $100 for similar performance is better than investing $300.

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NerdTrooper
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03-25-2016, 08:19 AM
#14
Accept differing views, though. Starting from Bloomfield onward, I haven’t increased the RAM during ownership. I only purchase what’s necessary when it’s installed.
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NerdTrooper
03-25-2016, 08:19 AM #14

Accept differing views, though. Starting from Bloomfield onward, I haven’t increased the RAM during ownership. I only purchase what’s necessary when it’s installed.

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acarnan1
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03-25-2016, 06:21 PM
#15
When you purchase what you require during construction, you'll likely upgrade to more in 4 to 5 years.
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acarnan1
03-25-2016, 06:21 PM #15

When you purchase what you require during construction, you'll likely upgrade to more in 4 to 5 years.

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Fynero
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03-25-2016, 11:33 PM
#16
I ended up in Zen 2 with the 3600XT model. Later, when Zen 3 launched, I switched to it.
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Fynero
03-25-2016, 11:33 PM #16

I ended up in Zen 2 with the 3600XT model. Later, when Zen 3 launched, I switched to it.

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DTG_Mamba
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03-26-2016, 04:51 AM
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DTG_Mamba
03-26-2016, 04:51 AM #17

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QuasarOne
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03-26-2016, 05:59 AM
#18
Yes, some folks avoid using cash and swap out all their computers every few years. That’s actually just a tiny group of those who lack financial wisdom—not based on wealth or poverty. Those serious about saving money usually reuse old gear instead of buying new ones.
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QuasarOne
03-26-2016, 05:59 AM #18

Yes, some folks avoid using cash and swap out all their computers every few years. That’s actually just a tiny group of those who lack financial wisdom—not based on wealth or poverty. Those serious about saving money usually reuse old gear instead of buying new ones.

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Goddesss
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03-26-2016, 09:33 AM
#19
Understanding the situation can be tricky. Wealth doesn't automatically guarantee the ability to upgrade and retire comfortably. Building machines with standard specs and expanding as needed seems more practical than trying to predict future requirements. It might make sense to start with what you need now and add more later instead of overcommitting to a specific future state.
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Goddesss
03-26-2016, 09:33 AM #19

Understanding the situation can be tricky. Wealth doesn't automatically guarantee the ability to upgrade and retire comfortably. Building machines with standard specs and expanding as needed seems more practical than trying to predict future requirements. It might make sense to start with what you need now and add more later instead of overcommitting to a specific future state.

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herobrine3959
Senior Member
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03-27-2016, 06:56 AM
#20
It's understandable, but the price has dropped significantly. A 32GB DDR5-6000CL30 chip in late 2022 cost around $270. Now 64GB is about $170. It makes sense to build from scratch if you want quality. Mixing 16GB and 32GB DIMMs isn't practical except for budget office computers.
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herobrine3959
03-27-2016, 06:56 AM #20

It's understandable, but the price has dropped significantly. A 32GB DDR5-6000CL30 chip in late 2022 cost around $270. Now 64GB is about $170. It makes sense to build from scratch if you want quality. Mixing 16GB and 32GB DIMMs isn't practical except for budget office computers.

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