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Overclocking memory leading to CPU instability

Overclocking memory leading to CPU instability

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fibifelise
Member
233
08-07-2019, 09:51 PM
#1
Spoiler:
Processor: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core Processor
Processor
Processor Manufacturer:
Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Processor Version:
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core Processor
External Clock:
100 MHz
Maximum Clock Supported:
4200 MHz
Current Clock:
3600 MHz
CPU Socket:
Populated
CPU Status:
Enabled
Processor Type:
Central Processor
Processor Voltage:
1.1 V
Processor Upgrade:
Socket AM4
Socket Designation:
AM4
Spoiler:
Motherboard: ASRock B450 Gaming-ITX/ac
Motherboard
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[Computer]
Computer Brand Name:
Unknown on Noname
[Motherboard]
Motherboard Model:
ASRock B450 Gaming-ITX/ac
Motherboard Chipset:
AMD B450 (Low-Power Promontory PROM26.A)
Motherboard Slots:
6xPCI Express x1, 1xPCI Express x4, 1xPCI Express x8, 1xPCI Express x16
PCI Express Version Supported:
v3.0
USB Version Supported:
v3.1
[BIOS]
BIOS Manufacturer:
American Megatrends
BIOS Date:
11/06/2020
BIOS Version:
P4.20
UEFI BIOS:
Capable
Super-IO/LPC Chip:
Winbond/Nuvoton NCT6792D
Ram
Spoiler:
Crucial DDR4 PC3600 16GB kit CL16 Ballistix R
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[General Module Information]
Module Number:
0
Module Size:
8 GBytes
Memory Type:
DDR4 SDRAM
Module Type:
Unbuffered DIMM (UDIMM)
Memory Speed:
1333.3 MHz (DDR4-2666 / PC4-21300)
Module Manufacturer:
Crucial Technology
Module Part Number:
BL8G36C16U4R.M8FE1
Module Revision:
0.0
Module Serial Number:
2797559779
Module Manufacturing Date:
Year: 2020, Week: 22
Module Manufacturing Location:
0
SDRAM Manufacturer:
Micron Tech.
DRAM Steppping:
0.0
Error Check/Correction:
None
[Module Characteristics]
Row Address Bits:
16
Column Address Bits:
10
Module Density:
8192 Mb
Number Of Ranks:
1
Device Width:
8 bits
Bus Width:
64 bits
Die Count:
1
Module Nominal Voltage (VDD):
1.2 V
Minimum SDRAM Cycle Time (tCKAVGmin):
0.75000 ns
Maximum SDRAM Cycle Time (tCKAVGmax):
1.60000 ns
CAS# Latencies Supported:
10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20
Minimum CAS# Latency Time (tAAmin):
14.250 ns
Minimum RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCDmin):
14.250 ns
Minimum Row Precharge Time (tRPmin):
14.250 ns
Minimum Active to Precharge Time (tRASmin):
32.000 ns
Supported Module Timing at 1333.3 MHz:
19-19-19-43
Supported Module Timing at 1200.0 MHz:
18-18-18-39
Supported Module Timing at 1066.7 MHz:
16-16-16-35
Supported Module Timing at 933.3 MHz:
14-14-14-30
Supported Module Timing at 800.0 MHz:
12-12-12-26
Supported Module Timing at 666.7 MHz:
10-10-10-22
Minimum Active to Active/Refresh Time (tRCmin):
46.250 ns
Minimum Refresh Recovery Time Delay (tRFC1min):
350.000 ns
Minimum Refresh Recovery Time Delay (tRFC2min):
260.000 ns
Minimum Refresh Recovery Time Delay (tRFC4min):
160.000 ns
Minimum Four Activate Window Delay Time (tFAWmin):
21.000 ns
Minimum Active to Active Delay Time - Different Bank Group (tRRD_Smin):
2.925 ns
Minimum Active to Active Delay Time - Same Bank Group (tRRD_Lmin):
4.900 ns
Minimum CAS to CAS Delay Time - Same Bank Group (tCCD_Lmin):
5.000 ns
[Features]
Module Temperature Sensor (TSOD):
Not Supported
Module Nominal Height:
31 - 32 mm
Module Maximum Thickness (Front):
1 - 2 mm
Module Maximum Thickness (Back):
1 - 2 mm
Address Mapping from Edge Connector to DRAM:
Standard
[Intel Extreme Memory Profile (XMP)]
XMP Revision:
2.0
[Certified Profile [Enabled]]
Module VDD Voltage Level:
1.35 V
Minimum SDRAM Cycle Time (tCKAVGmin):
0.55500 ns
CAS# Latencies Supported:
7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24
Minimum CAS# Latency Time (tAAmin):
8.750 ns
Minimum RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCDmin):
9.875 ns
Minimum Row Precharge Time (tRPmin):
9.875 ns
Minimum Active to Precharge Time (tRASmin):
21.000 ns
Supported Module Timing at 1800.0 MHz:
16-18-18-38
Supported Module Timing at 1733.3 MHz:
16-18-18-37
Supported Module Timing at 1666.7 MHz:
15-17-17-35
Supported Module Timing at 1600.0 MHz:
14-16-16-34
Supported Module Timing at 1466.7 MHz:
13-15-15-31
Supported Module Timing at 1333.3 MHz:
12-14-14-28
Supported Module Timing at 1200.0 MHz:
11-12-12-26
Supported Module Timing at 1066.7 MHz:
10-11-11-23
Supported Module Timing at 933.3 MHz:
9-10-10-20
Supported Module Timing at 800.0 MHz:
7-8-8-17
Minimum Active to Active/Refresh Time (tRCmin):
32.000 ns
Minimum Refresh Recovery Time Delay (tRFC1min):
350.000 ns
Minimum Refresh Recovery Time Delay (tRFC2min):
260.000 ns
Minimum Refresh Recovery Time Delay (tRFC4min):
160.000 ns
Minimum Four Activate Window Delay Time (tFAWmin):
21.000 ns
Minimum Active to Active Delay Time - Different Bank Group (tRRD_Smin):
3.000 ns
Minimum Active to Active Delay Time - Same Bank Group (tRRD_Lmin):
4.875 ns
Spoiler:
Current Ram timings
Memory
[General information]
Total Memory Size:
16 GBytes
Total Memory Size [MB]:
16384
[Current Performance Settings]
Maximum Supported Memory Clock:
Unlimited
Current Memory Clock:
1766.6 MHz
Current Timing (tCAS-tRCD-tRP-tRAS):
16-19-19-34
Memory Channels Supported:
2
Memory Channels Active:
2
Command Rate:
1T
Read to Read Delay (tRD_RD) Same Rank:
5T
Read to Read Delay (tRD_RD) Different DIMM:
4T
Write to Write Delay (tWR_WR) Same Rank:
5T
Write to Write Delay (tWR_WR) Different DIMM:
6T
Read to Precharge Delay (tRTP):
14T
Write to Precharge Delay (tWTP):
37T
Write Recovery Time (tWR):
26T
Row Cycle Time (tRC):
56T
Refresh Cycle Time (tRFC):
619T
Four Activate Window (tFAW):
38T
PSU: Corsair TX650
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060
Having bought 3600 MHz ram I wanted to get them to run at that speed instead of the default 2600 MHz. After a lot of troubleshooting back and forth I have settled on 3533 MHz, by activating the XMP profile for 3600 MHz in the bios and then adjusting frequency back one step to 1766 MHz. I also improved primary timings using Dram calculator, but so far I have left secondary timings at the 3600 MHz XMP default.
This stuff all took a while to even get the computer to post!
I ran MemTest and it didn't give me any errors, so I thought it was happy days from there.....
But now the computer restarts when under heavy CPU-load. This makes no sense to me as I haven't touched anything CPU related. I tried to run prime95 and it will cause the computer to restart within 5-7 minutes(
HWinfo log
of this if anyone is interested). If I go back to 2600 MHz everything runs fine.
Looking at event viewer there is a critical event id 41 "kernel power" event but it seems like a generic critical error that won't tell me what's wrong.
So basically I don't know how to fix this.
Should I increase voltage to the CPU? Or is my PSU not capable enough?
Am I missing some obvious tweak that will fix everything?
F
fibifelise
08-07-2019, 09:51 PM #1

Spoiler:
Processor: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core Processor
Processor
Processor Manufacturer:
Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Processor Version:
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core Processor
External Clock:
100 MHz
Maximum Clock Supported:
4200 MHz
Current Clock:
3600 MHz
CPU Socket:
Populated
CPU Status:
Enabled
Processor Type:
Central Processor
Processor Voltage:
1.1 V
Processor Upgrade:
Socket AM4
Socket Designation:
AM4
Spoiler:
Motherboard: ASRock B450 Gaming-ITX/ac
Motherboard
���
[Computer]
Computer Brand Name:
Unknown on Noname
[Motherboard]
Motherboard Model:
ASRock B450 Gaming-ITX/ac
Motherboard Chipset:
AMD B450 (Low-Power Promontory PROM26.A)
Motherboard Slots:
6xPCI Express x1, 1xPCI Express x4, 1xPCI Express x8, 1xPCI Express x16
PCI Express Version Supported:
v3.0
USB Version Supported:
v3.1
[BIOS]
BIOS Manufacturer:
American Megatrends
BIOS Date:
11/06/2020
BIOS Version:
P4.20
UEFI BIOS:
Capable
Super-IO/LPC Chip:
Winbond/Nuvoton NCT6792D
Ram
Spoiler:
Crucial DDR4 PC3600 16GB kit CL16 Ballistix R
�����
[General Module Information]
Module Number:
0
Module Size:
8 GBytes
Memory Type:
DDR4 SDRAM
Module Type:
Unbuffered DIMM (UDIMM)
Memory Speed:
1333.3 MHz (DDR4-2666 / PC4-21300)
Module Manufacturer:
Crucial Technology
Module Part Number:
BL8G36C16U4R.M8FE1
Module Revision:
0.0
Module Serial Number:
2797559779
Module Manufacturing Date:
Year: 2020, Week: 22
Module Manufacturing Location:
0
SDRAM Manufacturer:
Micron Tech.
DRAM Steppping:
0.0
Error Check/Correction:
None
[Module Characteristics]
Row Address Bits:
16
Column Address Bits:
10
Module Density:
8192 Mb
Number Of Ranks:
1
Device Width:
8 bits
Bus Width:
64 bits
Die Count:
1
Module Nominal Voltage (VDD):
1.2 V
Minimum SDRAM Cycle Time (tCKAVGmin):
0.75000 ns
Maximum SDRAM Cycle Time (tCKAVGmax):
1.60000 ns
CAS# Latencies Supported:
10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20
Minimum CAS# Latency Time (tAAmin):
14.250 ns
Minimum RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCDmin):
14.250 ns
Minimum Row Precharge Time (tRPmin):
14.250 ns
Minimum Active to Precharge Time (tRASmin):
32.000 ns
Supported Module Timing at 1333.3 MHz:
19-19-19-43
Supported Module Timing at 1200.0 MHz:
18-18-18-39
Supported Module Timing at 1066.7 MHz:
16-16-16-35
Supported Module Timing at 933.3 MHz:
14-14-14-30
Supported Module Timing at 800.0 MHz:
12-12-12-26
Supported Module Timing at 666.7 MHz:
10-10-10-22
Minimum Active to Active/Refresh Time (tRCmin):
46.250 ns
Minimum Refresh Recovery Time Delay (tRFC1min):
350.000 ns
Minimum Refresh Recovery Time Delay (tRFC2min):
260.000 ns
Minimum Refresh Recovery Time Delay (tRFC4min):
160.000 ns
Minimum Four Activate Window Delay Time (tFAWmin):
21.000 ns
Minimum Active to Active Delay Time - Different Bank Group (tRRD_Smin):
2.925 ns
Minimum Active to Active Delay Time - Same Bank Group (tRRD_Lmin):
4.900 ns
Minimum CAS to CAS Delay Time - Same Bank Group (tCCD_Lmin):
5.000 ns
[Features]
Module Temperature Sensor (TSOD):
Not Supported
Module Nominal Height:
31 - 32 mm
Module Maximum Thickness (Front):
1 - 2 mm
Module Maximum Thickness (Back):
1 - 2 mm
Address Mapping from Edge Connector to DRAM:
Standard
[Intel Extreme Memory Profile (XMP)]
XMP Revision:
2.0
[Certified Profile [Enabled]]
Module VDD Voltage Level:
1.35 V
Minimum SDRAM Cycle Time (tCKAVGmin):
0.55500 ns
CAS# Latencies Supported:
7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24
Minimum CAS# Latency Time (tAAmin):
8.750 ns
Minimum RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCDmin):
9.875 ns
Minimum Row Precharge Time (tRPmin):
9.875 ns
Minimum Active to Precharge Time (tRASmin):
21.000 ns
Supported Module Timing at 1800.0 MHz:
16-18-18-38
Supported Module Timing at 1733.3 MHz:
16-18-18-37
Supported Module Timing at 1666.7 MHz:
15-17-17-35
Supported Module Timing at 1600.0 MHz:
14-16-16-34
Supported Module Timing at 1466.7 MHz:
13-15-15-31
Supported Module Timing at 1333.3 MHz:
12-14-14-28
Supported Module Timing at 1200.0 MHz:
11-12-12-26
Supported Module Timing at 1066.7 MHz:
10-11-11-23
Supported Module Timing at 933.3 MHz:
9-10-10-20
Supported Module Timing at 800.0 MHz:
7-8-8-17
Minimum Active to Active/Refresh Time (tRCmin):
32.000 ns
Minimum Refresh Recovery Time Delay (tRFC1min):
350.000 ns
Minimum Refresh Recovery Time Delay (tRFC2min):
260.000 ns
Minimum Refresh Recovery Time Delay (tRFC4min):
160.000 ns
Minimum Four Activate Window Delay Time (tFAWmin):
21.000 ns
Minimum Active to Active Delay Time - Different Bank Group (tRRD_Smin):
3.000 ns
Minimum Active to Active Delay Time - Same Bank Group (tRRD_Lmin):
4.875 ns
Spoiler:
Current Ram timings
Memory
[General information]
Total Memory Size:
16 GBytes
Total Memory Size [MB]:
16384
[Current Performance Settings]
Maximum Supported Memory Clock:
Unlimited
Current Memory Clock:
1766.6 MHz
Current Timing (tCAS-tRCD-tRP-tRAS):
16-19-19-34
Memory Channels Supported:
2
Memory Channels Active:
2
Command Rate:
1T
Read to Read Delay (tRD_RD) Same Rank:
5T
Read to Read Delay (tRD_RD) Different DIMM:
4T
Write to Write Delay (tWR_WR) Same Rank:
5T
Write to Write Delay (tWR_WR) Different DIMM:
6T
Read to Precharge Delay (tRTP):
14T
Write to Precharge Delay (tWTP):
37T
Write Recovery Time (tWR):
26T
Row Cycle Time (tRC):
56T
Refresh Cycle Time (tRFC):
619T
Four Activate Window (tFAW):
38T
PSU: Corsair TX650
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060
Having bought 3600 MHz ram I wanted to get them to run at that speed instead of the default 2600 MHz. After a lot of troubleshooting back and forth I have settled on 3533 MHz, by activating the XMP profile for 3600 MHz in the bios and then adjusting frequency back one step to 1766 MHz. I also improved primary timings using Dram calculator, but so far I have left secondary timings at the 3600 MHz XMP default.
This stuff all took a while to even get the computer to post!
I ran MemTest and it didn't give me any errors, so I thought it was happy days from there.....
But now the computer restarts when under heavy CPU-load. This makes no sense to me as I haven't touched anything CPU related. I tried to run prime95 and it will cause the computer to restart within 5-7 minutes(
HWinfo log
of this if anyone is interested). If I go back to 2600 MHz everything runs fine.
Looking at event viewer there is a critical event id 41 "kernel power" event but it seems like a generic critical error that won't tell me what's wrong.
So basically I don't know how to fix this.
Should I increase voltage to the CPU? Or is my PSU not capable enough?
Am I missing some obvious tweak that will fix everything?

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SGgamingDK
Member
222
08-09-2019, 10:07 PM
#2
The standard setting for that XMP profile is 1.35v, but you might want to try a higher value. 1.36, 1.37...
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SGgamingDK
08-09-2019, 10:07 PM #2

The standard setting for that XMP profile is 1.35v, but you might want to try a higher value. 1.36, 1.37...

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LeleCamera
Junior Member
36
08-13-2019, 08:58 PM
#3
Have you experimented with increased voltage for RAM? I believe the PSU isn't the issue, as RAMs consume minimal power. Additionally, the RAM controller is physically located within the CPU, which means you're directly interacting with it.
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LeleCamera
08-13-2019, 08:58 PM #3

Have you experimented with increased voltage for RAM? I believe the PSU isn't the issue, as RAMs consume minimal power. Additionally, the RAM controller is physically located within the CPU, which means you're directly interacting with it.

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simpemisa
Junior Member
6
08-14-2019, 02:35 AM
#4
Yes, I provided the ram with 1.35v, so it would make sense to add more power to the cpu.
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simpemisa
08-14-2019, 02:35 AM #4

Yes, I provided the ram with 1.35v, so it would make sense to add more power to the cpu.

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miniyonce16
Member
202
08-21-2019, 12:13 PM
#5
The standard setting for that XMP profile is 1.35v, but you might want to try a higher value. 1.36, 1.37...
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miniyonce16
08-21-2019, 12:13 PM #5

The standard setting for that XMP profile is 1.35v, but you might want to try a higher value. 1.36, 1.37...

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Sparkle_Mage
Member
206
08-30-2019, 03:12 AM
#6
alright I'll give it a go
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Sparkle_Mage
08-30-2019, 03:12 AM #6

alright I'll give it a go