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Overclock stable on i7 8700k but experiencing problems

Overclock stable on i7 8700k but experiencing problems

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bushminecraft
Member
189
04-17-2017, 06:18 AM
#1
Hi,
I’m experiencing issues with my i7 8700k on an ASRock Z370 extreme4 MB. After years of stable OC at 4.8Ghz with -30 offset, the PC has started locking up or crashing when using handbrake for video encoding. I’m considering re-seating the CPU and applying new thermal paste. My cooler is an Arctic Cooler i30 CO.
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bushminecraft
04-17-2017, 06:18 AM #1

Hi,
I’m experiencing issues with my i7 8700k on an ASRock Z370 extreme4 MB. After years of stable OC at 4.8Ghz with -30 offset, the PC has started locking up or crashing when using handbrake for video encoding. I’m considering re-seating the CPU and applying new thermal paste. My cooler is an Arctic Cooler i30 CO.

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MrVavilon
Junior Member
39
04-17-2017, 12:01 PM
#2
It's happening once more... 64mv.
When the Vcore drops while a changing workload rises sharply, this is when the processor faces the highest risk of BSOD.
There are two options:

Boost the Vcore to offset the worsening voltage control.

Switch the motherboard to a model with stricter voltage regulation.
For context, on 4th generation chips, Intel integrated Voltage Regulators directly into the package, so variations stayed around 8mv, occasionally reaching 16mv—equivalent to one bit.
Motherboards from earlier and later generations before the 4th generation have managed voltage control between 16 and 32mv, but with similar inconsistency.
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MrVavilon
04-17-2017, 12:01 PM #2

It's happening once more... 64mv.
When the Vcore drops while a changing workload rises sharply, this is when the processor faces the highest risk of BSOD.
There are two options:

Boost the Vcore to offset the worsening voltage control.

Switch the motherboard to a model with stricter voltage regulation.
For context, on 4th generation chips, Intel integrated Voltage Regulators directly into the package, so variations stayed around 8mv, occasionally reaching 16mv—equivalent to one bit.
Motherboards from earlier and later generations before the 4th generation have managed voltage control between 16 and 32mv, but with similar inconsistency.

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GanonCannon
Member
177
04-17-2017, 05:42 PM
#3
Hey there,
I've faced a similar problem with my 1600 (knowing different platforms, of course). After doing an OC for several years, it suddenly started acting up. I increased the CPU power a bit and then rechecked stability. I usually run overnight tests for about 8 hours to confirm. I use Prime95 and small FFTs for this.

With an OC, performance tends to drop over time. The fix here is slightly increasing the vcore. You might need to tweak it again in a few years. That's normal.

Good luck!
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GanonCannon
04-17-2017, 05:42 PM #3

Hey there,
I've faced a similar problem with my 1600 (knowing different platforms, of course). After doing an OC for several years, it suddenly started acting up. I increased the CPU power a bit and then rechecked stability. I usually run overnight tests for about 8 hours to confirm. I use Prime95 and small FFTs for this.

With an OC, performance tends to drop over time. The fix here is slightly increasing the vcore. You might need to tweak it again in a few years. That's normal.

Good luck!

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_SmilesKillMe
Member
144
04-17-2017, 06:34 PM
#4
Hi,
Thank you for the update. I changed the offset to -20 and will check the results. It seems the idle temperatures are a bit higher than before, so I may need to adjust the heat-sync again and apply more paste.
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_SmilesKillMe
04-17-2017, 06:34 PM #4

Hi,
Thank you for the update. I changed the offset to -20 and will check the results. It seems the idle temperatures are a bit higher than before, so I may need to adjust the heat-sync again and apply more paste.

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kelusky101
Member
181
04-19-2017, 06:37 PM
#5
Sure, it's worth a shot to re-apply paste. The temperatures you're seeing at idle should be around 30-35°C, 45-65°C during gaming, and about 65-80°C under stress. These are just estimates—systems vary.
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kelusky101
04-19-2017, 06:37 PM #5

Sure, it's worth a shot to re-apply paste. The temperatures you're seeing at idle should be around 30-35°C, 45-65°C during gaming, and about 65-80°C under stress. These are just estimates—systems vary.

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Titow29
Member
154
04-19-2017, 09:55 PM
#6
My idle temperatures are staying near 40 degrees, which is what worries me. When under load it reaches around 80, which looks typical based on my previous experiences.
Edit - The system appears to be more stable now after adjusting the offset.
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Titow29
04-19-2017, 09:55 PM #6

My idle temperatures are staying near 40 degrees, which is what worries me. When under load it reaches around 80, which looks typical based on my previous experiences.
Edit - The system appears to be more stable now after adjusting the offset.

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EndermanMan18
Senior Member
250
04-28-2017, 07:45 PM
#7
Hmm, around 40 seems a bit high, isn't it? Please apply the paste and let me know what happens. If the paste is breaking down over time, that might explain the rising idle temperatures. A fresh paste could lower those temps by about 5 degrees. If you haven’t reapplied it yet, you might see a noticeable drop in idle temps.

If the system feels more stable with the offset, that’s a positive sign. You could try testing again using Prime or OCCT for better results.
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EndermanMan18
04-28-2017, 07:45 PM #7

Hmm, around 40 seems a bit high, isn't it? Please apply the paste and let me know what happens. If the paste is breaking down over time, that might explain the rising idle temperatures. A fresh paste could lower those temps by about 5 degrees. If you haven’t reapplied it yet, you might see a noticeable drop in idle temps.

If the system feels more stable with the offset, that’s a positive sign. You could try testing again using Prime or OCCT for better results.

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gogofrgl1234
Senior Member
718
04-28-2017, 08:24 PM
#8
You might also consider using an LLC configuration. It's generally suited for higher output and can assist with 'vdroop'. Usually, LLC is configured automatically for moderate outputs. If you switch it to manual, start at the first two settings and possibly the third. It can improve stability, but going beyond level 3 may cause the CPU to overvolt, so monitor temperatures and results. Check if the initial two levels provide satisfactory performance.
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gogofrgl1234
04-28-2017, 08:24 PM #8

You might also consider using an LLC configuration. It's generally suited for higher output and can assist with 'vdroop'. Usually, LLC is configured automatically for moderate outputs. If you switch it to manual, start at the first two settings and possibly the third. It can improve stability, but going beyond level 3 may cause the CPU to overvolt, so monitor temperatures and results. Check if the initial two levels provide satisfactory performance.

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AgentDiamond
Member
95
05-14-2017, 01:22 AM
#9
I'm beginning to suspect there might be a problem.
Prime95 stops working quite soon after modest overclocking. It reached temperatures above 95°C on 4.8 with the -20 offset, and it keeps returning errors.
Even after lowering to 4.7 and 4.6, errors persist in Prime95.
I haven't located my thermal paste and have ordered more from Amazon.
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AgentDiamond
05-14-2017, 01:22 AM #9

I'm beginning to suspect there might be a problem.
Prime95 stops working quite soon after modest overclocking. It reached temperatures above 95°C on 4.8 with the -20 offset, and it keeps returning errors.
Even after lowering to 4.7 and 4.6, errors persist in Prime95.
I haven't located my thermal paste and have ordered more from Amazon.

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Zendoline
Junior Member
47
05-14-2017, 02:36 AM
#10
Do you know your current CPU cooler can handle up to 160 watts of heat, and that your CPU might easily surpass that in Prime 95—particularly when AVX is not turned off?
I don’t see any reference to the Vcore you’re using inside the chip, though...
I notice the offset, but it doesn’t indicate the maximum Vcore. If the offset plus LLC has reached over 1.4Vcore, it’s possible the voltage is dropping.
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Zendoline
05-14-2017, 02:36 AM #10

Do you know your current CPU cooler can handle up to 160 watts of heat, and that your CPU might easily surpass that in Prime 95—particularly when AVX is not turned off?
I don’t see any reference to the Vcore you’re using inside the chip, though...
I notice the offset, but it doesn’t indicate the maximum Vcore. If the offset plus LLC has reached over 1.4Vcore, it’s possible the voltage is dropping.

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