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Opinions On Karma Systems?

Opinions On Karma Systems?

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SkillAura1738
Member
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08-20-2018, 04:21 PM
#1
Currently exploring Metro Exodus and the main approach appears to involve frequent quick saves and replaying similar situations ten times in search of a way to avoid harming anyone. At this stage, I'm starting to question the purpose of weapons in the game. Nothing quite matches the excitement of Far Cry 3 unless you choose to use the firearms provided, but you won't achieve the intended conclusion. This has led me to reflect on karma systems. If you take certain actions, you receive a favorable outcome; if not, a less desirable one. At this point, they seem more like an illusion of freedom rather than genuine options. You can complete the mission in any manner you prefer, but doing so immediately blocks access to a satisfying ending. Of course, everyone desires the best outcome, which is the ideal resolution. What are your thoughts on this?
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SkillAura1738
08-20-2018, 04:21 PM #1

Currently exploring Metro Exodus and the main approach appears to involve frequent quick saves and replaying similar situations ten times in search of a way to avoid harming anyone. At this stage, I'm starting to question the purpose of weapons in the game. Nothing quite matches the excitement of Far Cry 3 unless you choose to use the firearms provided, but you won't achieve the intended conclusion. This has led me to reflect on karma systems. If you take certain actions, you receive a favorable outcome; if not, a less desirable one. At this point, they seem more like an illusion of freedom rather than genuine options. You can complete the mission in any manner you prefer, but doing so immediately blocks access to a satisfying ending. Of course, everyone desires the best outcome, which is the ideal resolution. What are your thoughts on this?

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Wolfgirl2213
Member
132
08-20-2018, 04:21 PM
#2
Undertale incorporated its karma system effectively, and it was created by a single developer.
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Wolfgirl2213
08-20-2018, 04:21 PM #2

Undertale incorporated its karma system effectively, and it was created by a single developer.

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08-20-2018, 04:21 PM
#3
I believe the impact hinges on how the mechanics are woven into the narrative. In some titles, it can seem like a superficial addition aimed at boosting replayability by altering endings based on player choices. However, when executed well, a karma system can enhance the experience, adding layers of meaning to the story. For instance, in a game I played called Eternal Threads—a time travel mystery—you influence past events to save six lives during a fire. Each character faces a choice that determines their fate after the blaze. Their outcomes aren’t just about survival; they also shape personal growth. You might guide someone through therapy or help them manage emotions, making their journey meaningful beyond mere survival. This approach rewards players who invest in character development, though it may not suit everyone if they prefer a more straightforward story or dislike deep character arcs. The karma system here adds depth and emotional resonance, making it stand out among games I’ve experienced.
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ThePorkyPorker
08-20-2018, 04:21 PM #3

I believe the impact hinges on how the mechanics are woven into the narrative. In some titles, it can seem like a superficial addition aimed at boosting replayability by altering endings based on player choices. However, when executed well, a karma system can enhance the experience, adding layers of meaning to the story. For instance, in a game I played called Eternal Threads—a time travel mystery—you influence past events to save six lives during a fire. Each character faces a choice that determines their fate after the blaze. Their outcomes aren’t just about survival; they also shape personal growth. You might guide someone through therapy or help them manage emotions, making their journey meaningful beyond mere survival. This approach rewards players who invest in character development, though it may not suit everyone if they prefer a more straightforward story or dislike deep character arcs. The karma system here adds depth and emotional resonance, making it stand out among games I’ve experienced.

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avidhunter308
Junior Member
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08-20-2018, 04:22 PM
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I believe the metro's design has some issues, yet it remains significantly improved compared to others. The decision ultimately depends on whether players enjoy the game's karma mechanics. For example, I appreciate Red Dead's system, though I know others dislike it.
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avidhunter308
08-20-2018, 04:22 PM #4

I believe the metro's design has some issues, yet it remains significantly improved compared to others. The decision ultimately depends on whether players enjoy the game's karma mechanics. For example, I appreciate Red Dead's system, though I know others dislike it.

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flurp1000
Junior Member
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08-20-2018, 04:22 PM
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You can also explore every ending within a day or two. Also, Undertale avoids having you sneak around with laser-accurate AI that penalizes attacks. It's really great!
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flurp1000
08-20-2018, 04:22 PM #5

You can also explore every ending within a day or two. Also, Undertale avoids having you sneak around with laser-accurate AI that penalizes attacks. It's really great!

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08-20-2018, 04:22 PM
#6
Branching routes and unexpected outcomes feel more intuitive when they don’t restrict gameplay. It’s about exploring various ways to influence events, leading to diverse endings based on your choices. You’ll notice how each small decision shapes the result. A well-designed system like a good/bad mechanic fits naturally, but if it feels restrictive—like “you get rewards only if you use these items”—it loses appeal.
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DragonChaser35
08-20-2018, 04:22 PM #6

Branching routes and unexpected outcomes feel more intuitive when they don’t restrict gameplay. It’s about exploring various ways to influence events, leading to diverse endings based on your choices. You’ll notice how each small decision shapes the result. A well-designed system like a good/bad mechanic fits naturally, but if it feels restrictive—like “you get rewards only if you use these items”—it loses appeal.

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Princess599599
Junior Member
37
08-20-2018, 04:22 PM
#7
I appreciate how the world responds to your choices. The problem is it often becomes too simple and unbalanced, forcing you to act in certain ways for specific rewards that might conflict with your character's overall path. You can still praise yourself for good actions while others criticize you for mistakes, even if it doesn't stop your tendency to steal compulsively. Also, the pressure to finish everything can create a stressful experience. In short: solid concept but tough to execute well; it breaks immersion if not handled carefully and I’d rather see more natural reactions from the game.
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Princess599599
08-20-2018, 04:22 PM #7

I appreciate how the world responds to your choices. The problem is it often becomes too simple and unbalanced, forcing you to act in certain ways for specific rewards that might conflict with your character's overall path. You can still praise yourself for good actions while others criticize you for mistakes, even if it doesn't stop your tendency to steal compulsively. Also, the pressure to finish everything can create a stressful experience. In short: solid concept but tough to execute well; it breaks immersion if not handled carefully and I’d rather see more natural reactions from the game.