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Operating a virtual machine on a Mac iBook G3 clamshell for a light 3D game session.

Operating a virtual machine on a Mac iBook G3 clamshell for a light 3D game session.

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blezzrog
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11-03-2016, 07:46 PM
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Hello everyone! I'm not sure if this forum is the best spot for sharing this thread... sorry about that :c The title perfectly captures what I'm asking! I received an Apple G3 clamshell Power PC laptop from my uncle, and I'm curious if it's feasible to run a virtual machine (with Windows 95) to play the game Worlds.com. It's light in terms of performance but also a 3D title. I'll share the details about my PC and the game's requirements below! The main question is... can I actually do this? What virtual machine software would work best for this kind of Power PC setup? Will it be straightforward? Thanks a lot!
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blezzrog
11-03-2016, 07:46 PM #1

Hello everyone! I'm not sure if this forum is the best spot for sharing this thread... sorry about that :c The title perfectly captures what I'm asking! I received an Apple G3 clamshell Power PC laptop from my uncle, and I'm curious if it's feasible to run a virtual machine (with Windows 95) to play the game Worlds.com. It's light in terms of performance but also a 3D title. I'll share the details about my PC and the game's requirements below! The main question is... can I actually do this? What virtual machine software would work best for this kind of Power PC setup? Will it be straightforward? Thanks a lot!

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Ninjas_R_OP
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11-04-2016, 12:53 AM
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You can't run a full virtual machine on Windows 95 because it was designed for x86, but you can use an emulator such as QEMU. It should function, though it might be quite slow.
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Ninjas_R_OP
11-04-2016, 12:53 AM #2

You can't run a full virtual machine on Windows 95 because it was designed for x86, but you can use an emulator such as QEMU. It should function, though it might be quite slow.

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ForgottenNinja
Junior Member
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11-05-2016, 03:22 PM
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QEMU operates by emulating hardware and operating systems, allowing virtual machines to run on a host system.
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ForgottenNinja
11-05-2016, 03:22 PM #3

QEMU operates by emulating hardware and operating systems, allowing virtual machines to run on a host system.

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DapperMD
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11-05-2016, 03:41 PM
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Sure, you won't be copying much on an iBook G3, particularly a clamshell design.
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DapperMD
11-05-2016, 03:41 PM #4

Sure, you won't be copying much on an iBook G3, particularly a clamshell design.

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Toxicz_PvP
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11-06-2016, 05:16 PM
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QEMU can simulate the processor, changing AMD64 commands into PowerPC instructions. This process is slow, especially on older systems, making it better to use a virtual machine on a newer device with hardware that supports virtualization. Running a VM typically needs at least 256MB of RAM, and even then it’s unlikely to work smoothly on an iBook G3.
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Toxicz_PvP
11-06-2016, 05:16 PM #5

QEMU can simulate the processor, changing AMD64 commands into PowerPC instructions. This process is slow, especially on older systems, making it better to use a virtual machine on a newer device with hardware that supports virtualization. Running a VM typically needs at least 256MB of RAM, and even then it’s unlikely to work smoothly on an iBook G3.

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doglover4421
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11-06-2016, 09:28 PM
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For entertainment, I tested PPC Lubuntu 14 on my R7 3700U using single-core boost to 3.9 GHz in QEMU. It functions, but it feels like it's running on a heavily throttled Intel Atom. I’m pretty sure your iBook won’t match that performance.
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doglover4421
11-06-2016, 09:28 PM #6

For entertainment, I tested PPC Lubuntu 14 on my R7 3700U using single-core boost to 3.9 GHz in QEMU. It functions, but it feels like it's running on a heavily throttled Intel Atom. I’m pretty sure your iBook won’t match that performance.

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IIWhiteII
Junior Member
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11-07-2016, 07:02 PM
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I understand... it's good to move on. Thanks for your support! It's also a bit unusual asking about games for this device, but I can check if any console emulators work on the iBook.
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IIWhiteII
11-07-2016, 07:02 PM #7

I understand... it's good to move on. Thanks for your support! It's also a bit unusual asking about games for this device, but I can check if any console emulators work on the iBook.

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Windmill45
Junior Member
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11-08-2016, 03:47 AM
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Others have mentioned the iBook Clamshell as a decent device (and quite collectible), but it lacks the power required to run an X86 virtual machine, let alone play a game.
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Windmill45
11-08-2016, 03:47 AM #8

Others have mentioned the iBook Clamshell as a decent device (and quite collectible), but it lacks the power required to run an X86 virtual machine, let alone play a game.

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FruitOpter
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11-13-2016, 11:21 PM
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Damn… That’s even worse than my old laptop, which ran an AMD dual-core Stoney Ridge APU at 2.9GHz and had a 3.5GHz boost version clocked at 1.35GHz in 2014. That thing is so slow, particularly with Windows 10—though her setup is broken and she won’t let me reinstall anything, it’s been this way for two years now…
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FruitOpter
11-13-2016, 11:21 PM #9

Damn… That’s even worse than my old laptop, which ran an AMD dual-core Stoney Ridge APU at 2.9GHz and had a 3.5GHz boost version clocked at 1.35GHz in 2014. That thing is so slow, particularly with Windows 10—though her setup is broken and she won’t let me reinstall anything, it’s been this way for two years now…

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lltoastedll
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11-15-2016, 02:11 AM
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Parallels or VMware Fusion were available for PPC systems. Locating an older version would probably be difficult. My family ran Windows 98 in emulation using one of these tools on a B&W G3. You could start the system, but performance would be very low. It might work for games like Warcraft 2 or the original Doom, but a title requiring a 400MHz CPU would struggle. The emulated speed would likely be less than half of the iBooks processor’s capability. Macintosh Garden is a site that tries to keep older Mac software, though I’m not sure if commercial versions exist there. It’s best to check their forums for options. I just checked and found a program called Virtual PC for Mac on the site. https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/virtual-pc-6
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lltoastedll
11-15-2016, 02:11 AM #10

Parallels or VMware Fusion were available for PPC systems. Locating an older version would probably be difficult. My family ran Windows 98 in emulation using one of these tools on a B&W G3. You could start the system, but performance would be very low. It might work for games like Warcraft 2 or the original Doom, but a title requiring a 400MHz CPU would struggle. The emulated speed would likely be less than half of the iBooks processor’s capability. Macintosh Garden is a site that tries to keep older Mac software, though I’m not sure if commercial versions exist there. It’s best to check their forums for options. I just checked and found a program called Virtual PC for Mac on the site. https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/virtual-pc-6