No, they are not consistently worse. Performance depends on specific use cases and workloads.
No, they are not consistently worse. Performance depends on specific use cases and workloads.
Since the alternative versions were released, I've mostly suggested them instead of the X models unless the X is more affordable. The main benefit is that the non-X model includes a box cooler. Even if you never plan to use it, the AMD coolers are often available second-hand for a good price, especially the Wraith Prism found on the 7700 and 7900, which can fetch $30 or more on eBay. The Stealth with the 7600 is only about $7-10, though it mainly serves as a backup cooler—especially useful if you have an AIO. Generally, non-X components cost less when priced similarly because they come with a functional box cooler. To upgrade to an X model, simply enable PBO and increase power limits to match the default settings of X parts, which is achievable on all B and X series boards. While I don’t know the exact frequency, many people ask about ways to lower thermals on X parts, often recommending PBO to raise limits. This can sometimes work in reverse—turning an X into a non-X unless paired with undervolting—but you lose the performance boost and the box cooler. So aside from running faster out of the box, what advantage do X parts have over non-X when priced equally? And do they ever make sense to pay more for them?
The -X sections perform better when grouped more finely. The resolution isn't huge—usually just a few tens of MHz—but under the same power and temperature conditions, there are still detectable improvements. It's not obvious enough to favor one approach over the other.
I'm working on a Ryzen 7600 and 6750xt build today, all installed and ready. I'm considering using the default ECO settings and the built-in cooler. Right now I'm weighing whether to upgrade it, but I expect a couple of weeks of testing before making a decision. It's interesting to think about using the stock cooler for a gaming CPU in 2023—though you might get more performance with a better one, I'd be impressed if it could keep up or even surpass the competition.
Not worse, just matching. Responding to the final query: no, nothing, ziltch, zero, practically none.
It looks like a great project in the making! The idea of having a stock cooler available is really interesting. If you haven’t seen them yet, make sure to watch Hardware Canucks’ videos about low-profile coolers—they’ve released several, and this one might be the latest.
That implies the X components must be more affordable to match the value. They lack a built-in cooling unit, but the standard out-of-box performance might include metal parts and a fan.
to have them understand it then yes. But then that wouldn't work. If that makes sense. Wow, even I’m not sure if I’m getting it. No wait, yes, they need to cut the prices for them to be reasonable but then it doesn’t add up. That’s confusing. Oh no, I hope that works. Wow, I really need to stop using ‘sense’
In my view, it's not like that since then it wouldn't work. I'm not going back to that path.
Ridge offers a compatible 70mm cooler height. The setup is a PC my father built to upgrade his existing rig—my old Asus gaming laptop (6700HQ, GTX 970M with a custom vBIOS for +130MHz/+200MHz clock speeds). It will mainly focus on noise control; if the cooler sounds too loud in both of our opinions, I’ll opt for something quieter. Previously, low-profile coolers were common around 2015, during my time using the Silverstone Raven Z before switching to the Sugo 13.
IMO the 7600x would have to cost less than the 7600 for it to make sense to me. Most systems I would be building with a 7600 are using stock profiles, whether its a mITX gaming PC or a replacement platform for a PC at work. The stock cooler being an iffy for a gaming PC, but worst case scenario, whenever you swap the 7600 out for a Ryzen 8800x3D or such, the resale to people building basic PCs looking for a second hand 7600 will want a stock cooler with it. If AM5 receives even half the longevity that AM4 had while also being LGA socket CPUs, then a 7600 will hold its value for a LONG time. That's also considering the fact it has an iGPU which reduces the minimum cost of a system.