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No clear link exists between the Aurora Borealis occurrence and RAM or SSD performance issues.

No clear link exists between the Aurora Borealis occurrence and RAM or SSD performance issues.

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Alexis388
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03-07-2016, 10:17 AM
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The idea is worth exploring. Cosmic rays can indeed trigger bit flips, and auroras result from particles striking the atmosphere. This connection suggests that increased auroral activity might correlate with a higher risk of bit flips. However, modern storage solutions like SSDs are generally more resistant than traditional hard drives, and CPU or non-ECC RAM can still be affected. It seems wise to avoid downloading data during periods when auroras are prominent.
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Alexis388
03-07-2016, 10:17 AM #1

The idea is worth exploring. Cosmic rays can indeed trigger bit flips, and auroras result from particles striking the atmosphere. This connection suggests that increased auroral activity might correlate with a higher risk of bit flips. However, modern storage solutions like SSDs are generally more resistant than traditional hard drives, and CPU or non-ECC RAM can still be affected. It seems wise to avoid downloading data during periods when auroras are prominent.

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XMcQ
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03-08-2016, 11:59 PM
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We're not experts in science.
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XMcQ
03-08-2016, 11:59 PM #2

We're not experts in science.

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QD_iXoner
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03-14-2016, 11:49 AM
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Currently, during this season and at this hour, all your device is powered by the sun’s constant energy. We experience an approximately 11-year solar cycle, and there hasn’t been a sudden increase in radiation compared to previous cycles.
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QD_iXoner
03-14-2016, 11:49 AM #3

Currently, during this season and at this hour, all your device is powered by the sun’s constant energy. We experience an approximately 11-year solar cycle, and there hasn’t been a sudden increase in radiation compared to previous cycles.

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jshi40700
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03-15-2016, 11:14 PM
#4
I reside in Sweden, and cosmetic particles move through magnetic pathways, reaching us... That explains why the aurora appears mainly in the polar areas.
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jshi40700
03-15-2016, 11:14 PM #4

I reside in Sweden, and cosmetic particles move through magnetic pathways, reaching us... That explains why the aurora appears mainly in the polar areas.

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MrBoby89400
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03-22-2016, 01:49 PM
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Don't fret about it. Unless you decide to leave Earth's magnetic field, the odds of bit errors are incredibly low. Many iPads used on the International Space Station work well and handle space-related data issues without problems, even while passing through auroras often.
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MrBoby89400
03-22-2016, 01:49 PM #5

Don't fret about it. Unless you decide to leave Earth's magnetic field, the odds of bit errors are incredibly low. Many iPads used on the International Space Station work well and handle space-related data issues without problems, even while passing through auroras often.

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03-22-2016, 08:26 PM
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We're all aware that cosmic rays might lead to bit flips. Did we realize this before? I wasn't aware of it.
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bakedpotatoboy
03-22-2016, 08:26 PM #6

We're all aware that cosmic rays might lead to bit flips. Did we realize this before? I wasn't aware of it.

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RuenixYT
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03-27-2016, 01:19 AM
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Aurora Borealis happens when charged particles move toward Earth along magnetic field lines to both poles. Based on current understanding, cosmic or gamma rays usually don’t follow magnetic paths. This suggests no link between aurora strength and bitflip rates from those high-energy rays. The particles involved are generally low-energy, while cosmic and gamma rays carry much higher energy. Bitflips can indeed occur, leading to errors in CPU registers or DIMM gates when they misfire during write-back. Depending on the affected data, it may corrupt cache writes or trigger a kernel panic. In networking and storage, CRC error correction is used, but its effectiveness varies with data type and location. For greater reliability, servers often employ ECC memory to provide extra protection against faults.
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RuenixYT
03-27-2016, 01:19 AM #7

Aurora Borealis happens when charged particles move toward Earth along magnetic field lines to both poles. Based on current understanding, cosmic or gamma rays usually don’t follow magnetic paths. This suggests no link between aurora strength and bitflip rates from those high-energy rays. The particles involved are generally low-energy, while cosmic and gamma rays carry much higher energy. Bitflips can indeed occur, leading to errors in CPU registers or DIMM gates when they misfire during write-back. Depending on the affected data, it may corrupt cache writes or trigger a kernel panic. In networking and storage, CRC error correction is used, but its effectiveness varies with data type and location. For greater reliability, servers often employ ECC memory to provide extra protection against faults.

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AndrijaPro07
Junior Member
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03-27-2016, 04:16 AM
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For a detailed study on memory mistakes, explore the provided resource. https://static.googleusercontent.com/med.../35162.pdf
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AndrijaPro07
03-27-2016, 04:16 AM #8

For a detailed study on memory mistakes, explore the provided resource. https://static.googleusercontent.com/med.../35162.pdf

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Alexcraftbest
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03-27-2016, 12:30 PM
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Thanks for the information but that was what I already know. I was concerned that the charged particles hitting the atmosphere release photons (aka Aurora Borealis) can also release higher energy rays and other particles... I know avionics and spaceflight equipment are so expensive because they are hardened to protect against it. While my computer is near a window with a glass side panel. Pretty much like a patient during a open heart surgery... Well I wish there is a dedicated paper on the subject...
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Alexcraftbest
03-27-2016, 12:30 PM #9

Thanks for the information but that was what I already know. I was concerned that the charged particles hitting the atmosphere release photons (aka Aurora Borealis) can also release higher energy rays and other particles... I know avionics and spaceflight equipment are so expensive because they are hardened to protect against it. While my computer is near a window with a glass side panel. Pretty much like a patient during a open heart surgery... Well I wish there is a dedicated paper on the subject...

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Xx1EnderSamxX
Junior Member
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03-28-2016, 04:37 PM
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There's also a statistical measurable increase in cancer rate among pilots and the rest of the flight crew. Officially, there's no causality, but only correlation. The current theory is that because the atmosphere is much thinner at higher altitudes, cosmic rays strike with more occurrence. Being that it's ionizing radiation, these packets of energy strike DNA strands and shatter the chemistry bonds that hold the atoms together. Cellular repair does happen with DNA that's the equivalent of RAID1 (a pair). But depending on where and how severe along the strand the damage is, transcription errors can occur during the mitosis phase (cellular division). A damaged cell will self-destruct properly. But the cells that go on dividing uncontrollably is by nature "cancer". We all get struck with ionizing radiation every day (no, WiFi or cellular doesn't count as it's the non-ionizing type). It all comes down to probabilities in how ionizing radiation cumulatively effect us.
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Xx1EnderSamxX
03-28-2016, 04:37 PM #10

There's also a statistical measurable increase in cancer rate among pilots and the rest of the flight crew. Officially, there's no causality, but only correlation. The current theory is that because the atmosphere is much thinner at higher altitudes, cosmic rays strike with more occurrence. Being that it's ionizing radiation, these packets of energy strike DNA strands and shatter the chemistry bonds that hold the atoms together. Cellular repair does happen with DNA that's the equivalent of RAID1 (a pair). But depending on where and how severe along the strand the damage is, transcription errors can occur during the mitosis phase (cellular division). A damaged cell will self-destruct properly. But the cells that go on dividing uncontrollably is by nature "cancer". We all get struck with ionizing radiation every day (no, WiFi or cellular doesn't count as it's the non-ionizing type). It all comes down to probabilities in how ionizing radiation cumulatively effect us.