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HighLikeSky
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06-12-2023, 09:43 AM
#11
They seem so simple, but once you meet the correct requirements, the details become less important. Routers offer much more complexity and value.
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HighLikeSky
06-12-2023, 09:43 AM #11

They seem so simple, but once you meet the correct requirements, the details become less important. Routers offer much more complexity and value.

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marzing22
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06-18-2023, 05:56 PM
#12
In reality, modern connections rely less on the old dial-up modems and more on the service providers you connect with. Once I had a high-speed 2400 bps modem, I could switch between different ISPs whenever I wanted. Today, the phone company often acts like an ISP. The fiber optic device in my home could be informally called a modem, though ATT doesn’t use that term. Comcast refers to it as a router or customer premises equipment. These devices have become part of common language now. It wasn’t always clear which brand or feature was best—whether it was a USRobotics model or the promise of future standards like V.90 or V.92. Or whether you needed a specific hardware adapter, like a UART Texas instruments 16650, to link your modem via serial connection. Or dealing with a Win Modem that didn’t work. Essentially, what matters now is choosing the service your provider offers, regardless of how they label it.
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marzing22
06-18-2023, 05:56 PM #12

In reality, modern connections rely less on the old dial-up modems and more on the service providers you connect with. Once I had a high-speed 2400 bps modem, I could switch between different ISPs whenever I wanted. Today, the phone company often acts like an ISP. The fiber optic device in my home could be informally called a modem, though ATT doesn’t use that term. Comcast refers to it as a router or customer premises equipment. These devices have become part of common language now. It wasn’t always clear which brand or feature was best—whether it was a USRobotics model or the promise of future standards like V.90 or V.92. Or whether you needed a specific hardware adapter, like a UART Texas instruments 16650, to link your modem via serial connection. Or dealing with a Win Modem that didn’t work. Essentially, what matters now is choosing the service your provider offers, regardless of how they label it.

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Wallydu16YTB
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06-19-2023, 12:03 AM
#13
The company usually relies on gateways like modems or routers. Not every ISP supports customer-built modems. In the US, it’s mainly due to FCC actions that pushed cable firms to comply. Cable modems are straightforward. For speeds under Gigabit, use Docsis 3.1 with Gigabit ports; for Gigabit and above, pair a Docsis 3.1 modem with 2.5 Gbps Ethernet. This is because Gigabit modems reach around 940 Mbps max. The main variation lies in the Ethernet speed rating, both have similar downstream and upstream performance. DSL is largely obsolete now, and standalone DSL modems are rare. Fiber requires a media converter and depends on ISP-provided equipment.
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Wallydu16YTB
06-19-2023, 12:03 AM #13

The company usually relies on gateways like modems or routers. Not every ISP supports customer-built modems. In the US, it’s mainly due to FCC actions that pushed cable firms to comply. Cable modems are straightforward. For speeds under Gigabit, use Docsis 3.1 with Gigabit ports; for Gigabit and above, pair a Docsis 3.1 modem with 2.5 Gbps Ethernet. This is because Gigabit modems reach around 940 Mbps max. The main variation lies in the Ethernet speed rating, both have similar downstream and upstream performance. DSL is largely obsolete now, and standalone DSL modems are rare. Fiber requires a media converter and depends on ISP-provided equipment.

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ArisV
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06-19-2023, 08:59 AM
#14
Many modems function as routers too.
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ArisV
06-19-2023, 08:59 AM #14

Many modems function as routers too.

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Heybuddy123
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06-20-2023, 11:53 AM
#15
Typically, you receive low-quality waste...
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Heybuddy123
06-20-2023, 11:53 AM #15

Typically, you receive low-quality waste...

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Unfrugal
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06-21-2023, 03:14 AM
#16
The router's performance is lacking, yet it works just fine as a modem.
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Unfrugal
06-21-2023, 03:14 AM #16

The router's performance is lacking, yet it works just fine as a modem.

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Flashwing006
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06-22-2023, 12:04 PM
#17
oh yeah, maybe, although i feel my "fritzbox" has a huge amount of options..... i don't typically use them though, usually i just have one device connected at a time, i also never use wifi (that it has of course) ^tried it though, its not bad, but the signal isnt strong enough to reach my room, which is 3 stories up, only reaches the stairs in front of the room
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Flashwing006
06-22-2023, 12:04 PM #17

oh yeah, maybe, although i feel my "fritzbox" has a huge amount of options..... i don't typically use them though, usually i just have one device connected at a time, i also never use wifi (that it has of course) ^tried it though, its not bad, but the signal isnt strong enough to reach my room, which is 3 stories up, only reaches the stairs in front of the room

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Poois23
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06-27-2023, 05:56 AM
#18
Strongly disagree. The systems most ISPs rely on are heavily secured and often lack useful features on the router side. Even carriers like Charter, which offer basic cable modems, typically supply SB6190 or similar chipsets that have had problems. We should also remember they often charge extra for equipment rental. My ISP bills around $15 a month for standard plans and $25 for unlimited data. They also charge $30 for unlimited if you use your own device, but if you stay under 1.2 TB or pay $10 per 50 Gbps, it’s manageable.
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Poois23
06-27-2023, 05:56 AM #18

Strongly disagree. The systems most ISPs rely on are heavily secured and often lack useful features on the router side. Even carriers like Charter, which offer basic cable modems, typically supply SB6190 or similar chipsets that have had problems. We should also remember they often charge extra for equipment rental. My ISP bills around $15 a month for standard plans and $25 for unlimited data. They also charge $30 for unlimited if you use your own device, but if you stay under 1.2 TB or pay $10 per 50 Gbps, it’s manageable.

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TheBrun1pro
Junior Member
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06-27-2023, 01:13 PM
#19
Based on what I've seen, ISPs are moving toward providing the modem themselves but encouraging customers to lease their routers while keeping them distinct.
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TheBrun1pro
06-27-2023, 01:13 PM #19

Based on what I've seen, ISPs are moving toward providing the modem themselves but encouraging customers to lease their routers while keeping them distinct.

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delaneyyyyy10
Junior Member
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06-27-2023, 01:49 PM
#20
Most US ISPs require you to rent a gateway. The major ISP I’m familiar with provides a basic modem but charges extra for WiFi access.
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delaneyyyyy10
06-27-2023, 01:49 PM #20

Most US ISPs require you to rent a gateway. The major ISP I’m familiar with provides a basic modem but charges extra for WiFi access.

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