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New 12 and 24GB RAM cards are finally here—why didn’t they arrive sooner?

New 12 and 24GB RAM cards are finally here—why didn’t they arrive sooner?

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TheSlimeguy12
Junior Member
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12-22-2021, 10:05 PM
#11
CORSAIR Retribution RGB 48GB (2 x 24GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 7000 (PC5 56000) Desktop Memory Model CMH48GX5M2B7000C40 - Found on Newegg.com I have to say, the cost isn’t too high for an Intel build.
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TheSlimeguy12
12-22-2021, 10:05 PM #11

CORSAIR Retribution RGB 48GB (2 x 24GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 7000 (PC5 56000) Desktop Memory Model CMH48GX5M2B7000C40 - Found on Newegg.com I have to say, the cost isn’t too high for an Intel build.

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NyanDelerey
Member
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12-23-2021, 07:02 AM
#12
Really? The launch is way too delayed to make a meaningful difference, and it hurt the quality on devices that could have worked better for most people. Who knew it’d be this tough? Lol
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NyanDelerey
12-23-2021, 07:02 AM #12

Really? The launch is way too delayed to make a meaningful difference, and it hurt the quality on devices that could have worked better for most people. Who knew it’d be this tough? Lol

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Cate17
Member
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12-24-2021, 01:32 AM
#13
The requirement likely came from the backend where they aimed to set up bandwidth capacity without pushing for extreme sizes. It seems less compelling for home users with modest needs. 16GB marks the starting point for entry-level builds (typically DDR4), while 32GB fits mid-range and higher tiers. Beyond that, things become more intriguing. 48GB modules serve as a bridge until 64GB options become available for those seeking substantial memory. I don’t focus on overclocking, but newer 24/48GB units tend to perform better in overclocks.
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Cate17
12-24-2021, 01:32 AM #13

The requirement likely came from the backend where they aimed to set up bandwidth capacity without pushing for extreme sizes. It seems less compelling for home users with modest needs. 16GB marks the starting point for entry-level builds (typically DDR4), while 32GB fits mid-range and higher tiers. Beyond that, things become more intriguing. 48GB modules serve as a bridge until 64GB options become available for those seeking substantial memory. I don’t focus on overclocking, but newer 24/48GB units tend to perform better in overclocks.

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Infallity
Senior Member
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12-24-2021, 07:54 PM
#14
Wow, so theres no "New Technology Price Hike" that settles down over time? Well isn't that just a nice change of pace. But I guess it isn't really new tech either. 16GB and 32GB sticks have existed for what seems like forever at this point, so its just a new arrangement really. Or at least the 12GB and 24GB sticks are just new arrangements. At least the 48GB Sticks are something actually NEW. But the fact it was so easy to make just proves my point that it should have happened quite some time ago. Better late than never I guess lol
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Infallity
12-24-2021, 07:54 PM #14

Wow, so theres no "New Technology Price Hike" that settles down over time? Well isn't that just a nice change of pace. But I guess it isn't really new tech either. 16GB and 32GB sticks have existed for what seems like forever at this point, so its just a new arrangement really. Or at least the 12GB and 24GB sticks are just new arrangements. At least the 48GB Sticks are something actually NEW. But the fact it was so easy to make just proves my point that it should have happened quite some time ago. Better late than never I guess lol

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Lieezy
Member
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12-24-2021, 08:13 PM
#15
I believed it related to a SKU for DDR5 flash NAND with increased storage per chip, though I've only tried this myself. Another person could possibly offer more insight.
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Lieezy
12-24-2021, 08:13 PM #15

I believed it related to a SKU for DDR5 flash NAND with increased storage per chip, though I've only tried this myself. Another person could possibly offer more insight.

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Fishbite101
Member
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12-25-2021, 01:40 AM
#16
I purchased one myself personally; they really stood out. As long as you opt for a Hynix model, they should handle 6000 CL30-38-38-30 smoothly. However, their behavior can be unpredictable based on the BIOS version. It’s important to verify that someone is already using them on your system beforehand to avoid unexpected memory issues. The BIOS support remains inconsistent. This product uses Micron technology with relatively loose timing (6000 40-48-48 is the optimal setting). If you need a Hynix unit with solid timings, this one fits the bill and just needs a slight clock reduction: https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-48gb/p/N8...6820374500 This wasn’t the main focus of the discussion. Their purpose is to expand storage capacity for data centers, which requires an integrated circuit with around 3GB density. To reach a 12GB capacity, you’d either require a 1.5GB die (low priority) or a 3GB die and run it at half speed. They don’t fail badly—they just lag behind 2x24GB models in performance. It’s not a major drawback to get close to 2x16GB speeds, but they’re not worth the extra cost unless you need top-tier results. The 12GB units seem less appealing for everyday use because they don’t match the efficiency of a 2x12GB configuration. The only advantage is a slightly better handling of memory controllers, making them more reliable for testing frequency settings. I’d bet on a 1x12GB setup being the first to surpass DDR5 12000 standards. About two months ago these items were roughly half their price; now they’re more reasonable compared to similar 2x32GB models.
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Fishbite101
12-25-2021, 01:40 AM #16

I purchased one myself personally; they really stood out. As long as you opt for a Hynix model, they should handle 6000 CL30-38-38-30 smoothly. However, their behavior can be unpredictable based on the BIOS version. It’s important to verify that someone is already using them on your system beforehand to avoid unexpected memory issues. The BIOS support remains inconsistent. This product uses Micron technology with relatively loose timing (6000 40-48-48 is the optimal setting). If you need a Hynix unit with solid timings, this one fits the bill and just needs a slight clock reduction: https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-48gb/p/N8...6820374500 This wasn’t the main focus of the discussion. Their purpose is to expand storage capacity for data centers, which requires an integrated circuit with around 3GB density. To reach a 12GB capacity, you’d either require a 1.5GB die (low priority) or a 3GB die and run it at half speed. They don’t fail badly—they just lag behind 2x24GB models in performance. It’s not a major drawback to get close to 2x16GB speeds, but they’re not worth the extra cost unless you need top-tier results. The 12GB units seem less appealing for everyday use because they don’t match the efficiency of a 2x12GB configuration. The only advantage is a slightly better handling of memory controllers, making them more reliable for testing frequency settings. I’d bet on a 1x12GB setup being the first to surpass DDR5 12000 standards. About two months ago these items were roughly half their price; now they’re more reasonable compared to similar 2x32GB models.

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Nessa106
Member
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01-04-2022, 12:14 PM
#17
Which components are being discussed? I haven’t seen any reliability issues mentioned. The main drawback was its outdated nature, plus the high cost. I’d love to see those affordable real Optane drives available where I am. I had a 280GB unit when it launched and it’s still working well today. Random read performance hasn’t matched anything else.
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Nessa106
01-04-2022, 12:14 PM #17

Which components are being discussed? I haven’t seen any reliability issues mentioned. The main drawback was its outdated nature, plus the high cost. I’d love to see those affordable real Optane drives available where I am. I had a 280GB unit when it launched and it’s still working well today. Random read performance hasn’t matched anything else.

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LFPC
Member
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01-24-2022, 09:26 AM
#18
It wasn't now since the announcement came too late for home users to act. As I mentioned earlier, 24GB (two 12GB units) kits would have been significant back when Ryzen 1000-2000 was in use. Many felt 16GB might not be sufficient and were hesitant to spend extra money just to double the capacity. Such kits would have been very popular from 2015 to around 2020.
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LFPC
01-24-2022, 09:26 AM #18

It wasn't now since the announcement came too late for home users to act. As I mentioned earlier, 24GB (two 12GB units) kits would have been significant back when Ryzen 1000-2000 was in use. Many felt 16GB might not be sufficient and were hesitant to spend extra money just to double the capacity. Such kits would have been very popular from 2015 to around 2020.

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CMGx
Junior Member
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01-29-2022, 10:31 PM
#19
Didn't you check the $7ish consumer sticks or the premium models? In r/homelab and r/zfs the common opinion is they're enterprise-level gear with extraordinary durability. Intel states the MTBF reaches 1.6 million hours, which is about 182 years.
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CMGx
01-29-2022, 10:31 PM #19

Didn't you check the $7ish consumer sticks or the premium models? In r/homelab and r/zfs the common opinion is they're enterprise-level gear with extraordinary durability. Intel states the MTBF reaches 1.6 million hours, which is about 182 years.

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alex03man
Junior Member
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01-30-2022, 12:16 AM
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Back in 2015, DDR4 was just starting to become popular with Skylake processors. We were still debating whether 8GB of RAM was sufficient for gaming, especially on a budget build. The 4GB vs 8GB VRAM discussion was common at the time. I don’t think mainstream had major complaints about 16GB RAM then—possibly later people began questioning its necessity. The high-end price surge for RAM likely happened around the middle of the DDR4 era, maybe when 4GB modules became less common. During that period, it seemed like running multiple modules could help you reach more memory without breaking the bank. Around early DDR4, 4GB units were still widely available, which made combining modules a viable option.
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alex03man
01-30-2022, 12:16 AM #20

Back in 2015, DDR4 was just starting to become popular with Skylake processors. We were still debating whether 8GB of RAM was sufficient for gaming, especially on a budget build. The 4GB vs 8GB VRAM discussion was common at the time. I don’t think mainstream had major complaints about 16GB RAM then—possibly later people began questioning its necessity. The high-end price surge for RAM likely happened around the middle of the DDR4 era, maybe when 4GB modules became less common. During that period, it seemed like running multiple modules could help you reach more memory without breaking the bank. Around early DDR4, 4GB units were still widely available, which made combining modules a viable option.

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