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111carys111
Posting Freak
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07-01-2024, 05:25 PM
#11
Ah ok thanks so that's what the model is called, I was searching for Asus TUF bronze because it was one that I could read properly. But I wasn't sure if the one I saw is the one listed in the tierlist
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111carys111
07-01-2024, 05:25 PM #11

Ah ok thanks so that's what the model is called, I was searching for Asus TUF bronze because it was one that I could read properly. But I wasn't sure if the one I saw is the one listed in the tierlist

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Waltroft
Member
65
07-01-2024, 05:25 PM
#12
That sounds much more sensible in terms of cost. I might wait a bit and buy the Seasonic Focus GX, since I wasn't aware of transient power spikes. And about the 1060 on a 550W PSU—would it really be a problem, or is the 550W enough to manage those spikes?
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Waltroft
07-01-2024, 05:25 PM #12

That sounds much more sensible in terms of cost. I might wait a bit and buy the Seasonic Focus GX, since I wasn't aware of transient power spikes. And about the 1060 on a 550W PSU—would it really be a problem, or is the 550W enough to manage those spikes?

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NinatoPvP
Posting Freak
899
07-01-2024, 05:25 PM
#13
See what Steve discusses about it.
The issue relates to Nvidia's tendency to overlook optimization in their GPU designs. Transient power spikes didn't pose a problem with the GTX 10- and 16-series, but became more noticeable with the RTX 20-series, where GPUs began consuming excessive power. The RTX 30-series performs worse in this regard. With the RTX 40-series, Nvidia has improved performance, reducing these spikes somewhat, though they remain a concern.

For example, the RTX 4070 Ti review at 18:31 includes a test on transient power spikes; you can watch it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-FMPbm5CNM
It's an improvement over the RTX 30-series but still requires careful power planning, as the RTX 4070 Ti draws around 285W while consuming about 400W.
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NinatoPvP
07-01-2024, 05:25 PM #13

See what Steve discusses about it.
The issue relates to Nvidia's tendency to overlook optimization in their GPU designs. Transient power spikes didn't pose a problem with the GTX 10- and 16-series, but became more noticeable with the RTX 20-series, where GPUs began consuming excessive power. The RTX 30-series performs worse in this regard. With the RTX 40-series, Nvidia has improved performance, reducing these spikes somewhat, though they remain a concern.

For example, the RTX 4070 Ti review at 18:31 includes a test on transient power spikes; you can watch it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-FMPbm5CNM
It's an improvement over the RTX 30-series but still requires careful power planning, as the RTX 4070 Ti draws around 285W while consuming about 400W.

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Thunderbomb12
Member
61
07-01-2024, 05:25 PM
#14
Could it be that AMD isn't facing the same issues with their latest GPUs, especially the 6000 series? The more I think about it, the more I feel drawn to upgrade to Team Red.
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Thunderbomb12
07-01-2024, 05:25 PM #14

Could it be that AMD isn't facing the same issues with their latest GPUs, especially the 6000 series? The more I think about it, the more I feel drawn to upgrade to Team Red.

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xStriKed
Member
212
07-01-2024, 05:25 PM
#15
That must be a used PSU. A new Focus GX-850 is over 2M in Indonesia.
The same with AMD. But don't worry. A decent 650w is plenty for a RTX 3070.
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xStriKed
07-01-2024, 05:25 PM #15

That must be a used PSU. A new Focus GX-850 is over 2M in Indonesia.
The same with AMD. But don't worry. A decent 650w is plenty for a RTX 3070.

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jdsabre
Junior Member
42
07-01-2024, 05:25 PM
#16
I'm also cautious about AMD, given their GPUs have increased in power usage too. For instance, the RX 580 has a 185W GPU, whereas the RX 6800 is a staggering 250W. Over the years, AMD GPUs have consistently used more power than Nvidia GPUs during the same period. For example, the GTX 1060 matches the RX 580 but uses only 120W, while the RX 580 itself draws 185W. Additionally, the RX 580 also launched a year later. Checking around, I found a review of the RX 6800 with a power spike at 25:30; you can watch it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbYCF_h2aVM. It appears that despite its 250W output, the RX 6800 can cause around 320W, indicating transient power issues with AMD GPUs—though perhaps less intense than Nvidia's but still a concern.
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jdsabre
07-01-2024, 05:25 PM #16

I'm also cautious about AMD, given their GPUs have increased in power usage too. For instance, the RX 580 has a 185W GPU, whereas the RX 6800 is a staggering 250W. Over the years, AMD GPUs have consistently used more power than Nvidia GPUs during the same period. For example, the GTX 1060 matches the RX 580 but uses only 120W, while the RX 580 itself draws 185W. Additionally, the RX 580 also launched a year later. Checking around, I found a review of the RX 6800 with a power spike at 25:30; you can watch it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbYCF_h2aVM. It appears that despite its 250W output, the RX 6800 can cause around 320W, indicating transient power issues with AMD GPUs—though perhaps less intense than Nvidia's but still a concern.

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TdmFan92
Senior Member
602
07-01-2024, 05:25 PM
#17
That's correct, the listing mentions it as used under the description. I believe the Asus TUF recommendation is a good fit since it's bronze rated and not modular.
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TdmFan92
07-01-2024, 05:25 PM #17

That's correct, the listing mentions it as used under the description. I believe the Asus TUF recommendation is a good fit since it's bronze rated and not modular.

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Fly_Fishball
Member
160
07-01-2024, 05:25 PM
#18
Define "too big".
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For me, 80+ Bronze efficiency isn't a major concern because it results in losing only 15% of the power the PSU draws from the wall as heat. With 80+ Gold, that loss drops to 10%, and with 80+ Titanium, it's just 6%.
Also, I'm using 80+ Titanium PSUs since I also have UPSes, and minimizing wasted power extends their lifespan.
However, the modularity of the PSU is important to me.
It's not just a hassle to install a fully-wired unit (since all cables are fixed), but it also creates a mess with excess and unused power wires. Depending on the PC case, this tangled mess restricts airflow significantly. Plus, it attracts a lot of dust.
For more details on PSU modularity, see:
https://www.cgdirector.com/full-vs-semi-...er-supply/
Additionally, I've used an 80+ Bronze, fully-wired PSU—my Seasonic S12II-520 was one example. It's a reliable power source and the top group-regulated unit available. I still keep it in storage just in case. After that, I switched to a Seasonic PRIME 650 (80+ Titanium) PSU along with custom sleeved paracord cables for a nicer appearance.
In summary, a fully modular PSU offers more convenience, improved airflow, and reduced dust buildup.
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Fly_Fishball
07-01-2024, 05:25 PM #18

Define "too big".
🤔
For me, 80+ Bronze efficiency isn't a major concern because it results in losing only 15% of the power the PSU draws from the wall as heat. With 80+ Gold, that loss drops to 10%, and with 80+ Titanium, it's just 6%.
Also, I'm using 80+ Titanium PSUs since I also have UPSes, and minimizing wasted power extends their lifespan.
However, the modularity of the PSU is important to me.
It's not just a hassle to install a fully-wired unit (since all cables are fixed), but it also creates a mess with excess and unused power wires. Depending on the PC case, this tangled mess restricts airflow significantly. Plus, it attracts a lot of dust.
For more details on PSU modularity, see:
https://www.cgdirector.com/full-vs-semi-...er-supply/
Additionally, I've used an 80+ Bronze, fully-wired PSU—my Seasonic S12II-520 was one example. It's a reliable power source and the top group-regulated unit available. I still keep it in storage just in case. After that, I switched to a Seasonic PRIME 650 (80+ Titanium) PSU along with custom sleeved paracord cables for a nicer appearance.
In summary, a fully modular PSU offers more convenience, improved airflow, and reduced dust buildup.

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55
07-01-2024, 05:25 PM
#19
Right at the top of your budget if i'm not mistaken,
https://www.tokopedia.com/rispa-t/msi-mp...src=search
probably your best choice.
There is also this tier B with abit of extra wattage,
https://www.tokopedia.com/globalcom...-7...src=topads
not sure where the differences with the Asus TUF are,might be capacitors or fan. Think SID probably will be able to tell.
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KawaiiDinoStar
07-01-2024, 05:25 PM #19

Right at the top of your budget if i'm not mistaken,
https://www.tokopedia.com/rispa-t/msi-mp...src=search
probably your best choice.
There is also this tier B with abit of extra wattage,
https://www.tokopedia.com/globalcom...-7...src=topads
not sure where the differences with the Asus TUF are,might be capacitors or fan. Think SID probably will be able to tell.

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Jumpless
Junior Member
3
07-01-2024, 05:25 PM
#20
The only change in the platform's structure remains the same. Everything else represents a completely different unit from another OEM. Great Wall is suitable for the TUF, and XHY works well for the MWE Gold V2. The quality matches.
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Jumpless
07-01-2024, 05:25 PM #20

The only change in the platform's structure remains the same. Everything else represents a completely different unit from another OEM. Great Wall is suitable for the TUF, and XHY works well for the MWE Gold V2. The quality matches.

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