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PLwoclawek
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06-14-2018, 01:02 PM
#11
It varies based on French market conditions, currently in the US the Asus B450 TUF Plus Gaming matches the price of the Tomahawk quite closely.
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PLwoclawek
06-14-2018, 01:02 PM #11

It varies based on French market conditions, currently in the US the Asus B450 TUF Plus Gaming matches the price of the Tomahawk quite closely.

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Amtrak10
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06-14-2018, 07:51 PM
#12
It doesn't work with the latest Ryzen models, and the maximum RAM speed is around 3000 MHz.
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Amtrak10
06-14-2018, 07:51 PM #12

It doesn't work with the latest Ryzen models, and the maximum RAM speed is around 3000 MHz.

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VarunaVmw101
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06-16-2018, 08:16 PM
#13
This product works with third-generation Ryzen processors. Most new motherboards sold recently should include BIOS versions that support Ryzen 3. The MSI models listed share similar VRM and overclocking features compared to the Tomohawk series. MSI B450 Gaming Plus, B450M Gaming Plus, B450M Mortar (Max or Titanium), and B450-A Pro are nearly equivalent in performance unless you push a 12-core Ryzen beyond its limits—then results are minimal. You can choose any of these, even without the Max upgrade, as it simply indicates a larger BIOS chip and a richer graphical interface. Models lacking Max feature more text-based and grayscale menus to reduce size. All listed boards support BIOS flashback: insert a USB drive, connect it via a specific port, press a button on the back, and even without a processor in the socket, the BIOS will update within about a minute. This means you won’t face issues, even if the board has an older BIOS version—just load the latest file onto the stick and press the button. Other recommended options include Asrock B450 Pro4 and B450M Pro4 (plus compatible accessories like -F for integrated graphics connectors). These models don’t support flashback, but the first BIOS compatible with Ryzen 3 was released in May of the previous year, so you should be safe unless you’re buying a very old model.
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VarunaVmw101
06-16-2018, 08:16 PM #13

This product works with third-generation Ryzen processors. Most new motherboards sold recently should include BIOS versions that support Ryzen 3. The MSI models listed share similar VRM and overclocking features compared to the Tomohawk series. MSI B450 Gaming Plus, B450M Gaming Plus, B450M Mortar (Max or Titanium), and B450-A Pro are nearly equivalent in performance unless you push a 12-core Ryzen beyond its limits—then results are minimal. You can choose any of these, even without the Max upgrade, as it simply indicates a larger BIOS chip and a richer graphical interface. Models lacking Max feature more text-based and grayscale menus to reduce size. All listed boards support BIOS flashback: insert a USB drive, connect it via a specific port, press a button on the back, and even without a processor in the socket, the BIOS will update within about a minute. This means you won’t face issues, even if the board has an older BIOS version—just load the latest file onto the stick and press the button. Other recommended options include Asrock B450 Pro4 and B450M Pro4 (plus compatible accessories like -F for integrated graphics connectors). These models don’t support flashback, but the first BIOS compatible with Ryzen 3 was released in May of the previous year, so you should be safe unless you’re buying a very old model.

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Futsal_xo
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07-04-2018, 11:47 PM
#14
The ASUS X570 Prime is a great deal at around $150.
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Futsal_xo
07-04-2018, 11:47 PM #14

The ASUS X570 Prime is a great deal at around $150.

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07-10-2018, 08:18 AM
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I don't recall the mortar, but Buildzoid received a positive review because of its strong VRM at that price level.
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Beastingit3644
07-10-2018, 08:18 AM #15

I don't recall the mortar, but Buildzoid received a positive review because of its strong VRM at that price level.

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JakeThePeg
Junior Member
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07-11-2018, 04:00 AM
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It's essentially the same VRM design—four phases, each containing two 4C029N and two 4C024N mosfets. The small variations between versions mainly involve the heatsink design and possibly differing BIOS features or availability. Tomohawk models received the most reviews and feedback, while the Mortar mATX version was sent fewer times because some reviewers criticized it for having only four SATA ports (ignoring that two of those ports are disabled on boards with six SATA ports) and for offering fewer expansion slots as an mATX model.
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JakeThePeg
07-11-2018, 04:00 AM #16

It's essentially the same VRM design—four phases, each containing two 4C029N and two 4C024N mosfets. The small variations between versions mainly involve the heatsink design and possibly differing BIOS features or availability. Tomohawk models received the most reviews and feedback, while the Mortar mATX version was sent fewer times because some reviewers criticized it for having only four SATA ports (ignoring that two of those ports are disabled on boards with six SATA ports) and for offering fewer expansion slots as an mATX model.

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Krimson_
Junior Member
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07-14-2018, 09:09 AM
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The MSI B450-A Pro Max looks good. I saw it on Amazon for 110 euros. It supports 3rd generation Ryzen processors and up to 4000 MHz RAM. Could be a solid choice. Appreciate the recommendations!
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Krimson_
07-14-2018, 09:09 AM #17

The MSI B450-A Pro Max looks good. I saw it on Amazon for 110 euros. It supports 3rd generation Ryzen processors and up to 4000 MHz RAM. Could be a solid choice. Appreciate the recommendations!

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ReveloT_T
Member
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07-14-2018, 10:17 AM
#18
You're checking the variations between the B450 Tomahawk Max and the B450-A Pro Max. Based on what you noticed, it seems they share the same main board but have some design tweaks—like sturdier heat sinks near the CPU on the Tomahawk Max and an RGB light strip. That’s a solid distinction. Just confirm if those are the only differences you’ve observed!
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ReveloT_T
07-14-2018, 10:17 AM #18

You're checking the variations between the B450 Tomahawk Max and the B450-A Pro Max. Based on what you noticed, it seems they share the same main board but have some design tweaks—like sturdier heat sinks near the CPU on the Tomahawk Max and an RGB light strip. That’s a solid distinction. Just confirm if those are the only differences you’ve observed!

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Ebolakisses
Junior Member
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07-14-2018, 04:37 PM
#19
can't go wrong with either of the recommended ones. The mortar is incredible, will look for a vrm torture test result..
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Ebolakisses
07-14-2018, 04:37 PM #19

can't go wrong with either of the recommended ones. The mortar is incredible, will look for a vrm torture test result..

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Xelo24
Member
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07-14-2018, 05:01 PM
#20
Ryzen 9 3900 @1.3Volts, Prime95 stress test for 15 minutes. The Mortar Max is a solid platform, and neither A-Pro MAX nor Tomahawk MAX will ruin your experience. : )
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Xelo24
07-14-2018, 05:01 PM #20

Ryzen 9 3900 @1.3Volts, Prime95 stress test for 15 minutes. The Mortar Max is a solid platform, and neither A-Pro MAX nor Tomahawk MAX will ruin your experience. : )

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