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Manual voltage OC works well but adaptive mode encounters issues?

Manual voltage OC works well but adaptive mode encounters issues?

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TriCStyLe
Junior Member
13
10-19-2016, 04:05 PM
#1
There are many possible answers to this issue, but each one didn’t help me much.
I’m using a 6700K on an Asus Z170-AR and have achieved a stable OC of 4.7GHz @ 1.32V with manual core voltage.
Although 1.32 isn’t extremely high, the CPU doesn’t need it often because the load rarely hits 100%.
The usual fix is to enable Adaptive CPU Voltage in the Asus AI Tweaker BIOS.
I’m trying to switch to Adaptive from Manual, but even after POSTing, the system freezes at the first Windows screen right after the ASUS boot screen.
This seems like a misvoltage issue, though others have suggested I might have set it incorrectly.
Check below for details.

Original Settings:
- CPU Core/Cache Voltage: Manual Mode
-- CPU Core Voltage Override: 1.320
This worked.

New Settings:
- CPU Core/Cache Voltage: Adaptive Mode
-- Offset Mode Sign: +
-- Additional Turbo Mode CPU Core Voltage: 1.320
-- Offset Voltage: Auto
This didn’t work.

Attempts I made:
1. Set CPU Core/Cache Boot Voltage to 1.1
2. Set Offset Voltage to 0.001
3. Set Offset Voltage to 0.01 and Additional Turbo Mode CPU Core Voltage to 1.31
4. Set Additional Turbo Mode CPU Core Voltage to 0.12 (stock is 1.2, so extra voltage just above it)
5. Enabled Speedstep and CStates—reduced idle frequency but not voltage.
This was my first OC and build, so any advice would be appreciated.

Any suggestions? This is my first attempt at a build. Please let me know if more details are needed.
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TriCStyLe
10-19-2016, 04:05 PM #1

There are many possible answers to this issue, but each one didn’t help me much.
I’m using a 6700K on an Asus Z170-AR and have achieved a stable OC of 4.7GHz @ 1.32V with manual core voltage.
Although 1.32 isn’t extremely high, the CPU doesn’t need it often because the load rarely hits 100%.
The usual fix is to enable Adaptive CPU Voltage in the Asus AI Tweaker BIOS.
I’m trying to switch to Adaptive from Manual, but even after POSTing, the system freezes at the first Windows screen right after the ASUS boot screen.
This seems like a misvoltage issue, though others have suggested I might have set it incorrectly.
Check below for details.

Original Settings:
- CPU Core/Cache Voltage: Manual Mode
-- CPU Core Voltage Override: 1.320
This worked.

New Settings:
- CPU Core/Cache Voltage: Adaptive Mode
-- Offset Mode Sign: +
-- Additional Turbo Mode CPU Core Voltage: 1.320
-- Offset Voltage: Auto
This didn’t work.

Attempts I made:
1. Set CPU Core/Cache Boot Voltage to 1.1
2. Set Offset Voltage to 0.001
3. Set Offset Voltage to 0.01 and Additional Turbo Mode CPU Core Voltage to 1.31
4. Set Additional Turbo Mode CPU Core Voltage to 0.12 (stock is 1.2, so extra voltage just above it)
5. Enabled Speedstep and CStates—reduced idle frequency but not voltage.
This was my first OC and build, so any advice would be appreciated.

Any suggestions? This is my first attempt at a build. Please let me know if more details are needed.

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chris66072
Member
156
10-19-2016, 11:23 PM
#2
Why not just keep it as is since you've created a strong OC? Your findings show that stable manual voltage doesn't mean adaptive voltage stability, which testing has indicated. Considering chip lifespan measured over decades and Intel's claim that no permanent damage occurs when operating at tested voltages up to 1.5V (even slightly above that isn't automatically a failure), it feels like an unnecessary worry to reduce the voltage.
And if you want more insight into the tested voltage range, Siliconlottery consistently subjects their chips to rigorous tests at 1.425V with excellent results.
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chris66072
10-19-2016, 11:23 PM #2

Why not just keep it as is since you've created a strong OC? Your findings show that stable manual voltage doesn't mean adaptive voltage stability, which testing has indicated. Considering chip lifespan measured over decades and Intel's claim that no permanent damage occurs when operating at tested voltages up to 1.5V (even slightly above that isn't automatically a failure), it feels like an unnecessary worry to reduce the voltage.
And if you want more insight into the tested voltage range, Siliconlottery consistently subjects their chips to rigorous tests at 1.425V with excellent results.

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RavenRavine
Member
197
10-21-2016, 10:08 AM
#3
If adaptive mode isn't an option, can I instead...
A: Switch to Offset mode so the chip operates at its minimum required 1.315V for OC (1.315V), then reduce to 0.8V during idle; or
B: Keep it in manual mode at 1.315V continuously. Is this secure? I've tested it for several days, but I'm unsure if maintaining that voltage safely over time.
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RavenRavine
10-21-2016, 10:08 AM #3

If adaptive mode isn't an option, can I instead...
A: Switch to Offset mode so the chip operates at its minimum required 1.315V for OC (1.315V), then reduce to 0.8V during idle; or
B: Keep it in manual mode at 1.315V continuously. Is this secure? I've tested it for several days, but I'm unsure if maintaining that voltage safely over time.

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Maffin_
Member
181
10-22-2016, 01:54 AM
#4
You encountered an issue with your Asus Z170-A using a 6700k processor, where adaptive mode stopped working and you couldn't boot. You asked what steps were taken to resolve it.
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Maffin_
10-22-2016, 01:54 AM #4

You encountered an issue with your Asus Z170-A using a 6700k processor, where adaptive mode stopped working and you couldn't boot. You asked what steps were taken to resolve it.

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willshar88
Member
118
10-22-2016, 10:07 AM
#5
I'm facing the same issue with my Asus Z170-A running a 6700k. The adaptive mode isn't working and I can't boot. I'm still in manual mode, but I'm keeping an eye on the situation and hoping it resolves soon.
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willshar88
10-22-2016, 10:07 AM #5

I'm facing the same issue with my Asus Z170-A running a 6700k. The adaptive mode isn't working and I can't boot. I'm still in manual mode, but I'm keeping an eye on the situation and hoping it resolves soon.

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terrorkossan
Junior Member
34
10-22-2016, 10:07 PM
#6
Why not just keep it as is since you've created a strong OC? Your findings show that stable manual voltage doesn't mean adaptive voltage stability, which testing has indicated. Considering chip lifespan measured over decades and Intel's claim that no permanent damage occurs when operating at tested voltages up to 1.5V (even slightly above that isn't automatically a failure), it feels like an unnecessary worry to reduce the voltage.
And if you want more insight into the tested voltage range, Siliconlottery consistently subjects their chips to rigorous tests at 1.425V with excellent results.
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terrorkossan
10-22-2016, 10:07 PM #6

Why not just keep it as is since you've created a strong OC? Your findings show that stable manual voltage doesn't mean adaptive voltage stability, which testing has indicated. Considering chip lifespan measured over decades and Intel's claim that no permanent damage occurs when operating at tested voltages up to 1.5V (even slightly above that isn't automatically a failure), it feels like an unnecessary worry to reduce the voltage.
And if you want more insight into the tested voltage range, Siliconlottery consistently subjects their chips to rigorous tests at 1.425V with excellent results.

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Time_TV
Member
102
11-03-2016, 12:56 PM
#7
If my C-States functioned correctly I wouldn't mind sticking with manual voltage, but they don't seem to work at all; my voltage stays at the maximum 24/7 even on the "Power saving" plan. Continuously using more voltage than necessary leads to higher idle temperatures and a shorter lifespan.
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Time_TV
11-03-2016, 12:56 PM #7

If my C-States functioned correctly I wouldn't mind sticking with manual voltage, but they don't seem to work at all; my voltage stays at the maximum 24/7 even on the "Power saving" plan. Continuously using more voltage than necessary leads to higher idle temperatures and a shorter lifespan.

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Laxativ
Member
50
11-03-2016, 01:14 PM
#8
The testing indicates that manual voltage stability is sufficient, as adaptive voltage stability hasn't improved chip longevity. Operating at up to 1.5V appears safe, even slightly above that, without guaranteed failure. Siliconlottery's tests at 1.425V show strong results. I'm now sticking with manual mode because my current 1.315V is well within acceptable limits. Adaptive mode hasn't provided the peace of mind I hoped for, so manual remains the best choice.
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Laxativ
11-03-2016, 01:14 PM #8

The testing indicates that manual voltage stability is sufficient, as adaptive voltage stability hasn't improved chip longevity. Operating at up to 1.5V appears safe, even slightly above that, without guaranteed failure. Siliconlottery's tests at 1.425V show strong results. I'm now sticking with manual mode because my current 1.315V is well within acceptable limits. Adaptive mode hasn't provided the peace of mind I hoped for, so manual remains the best choice.