Looking for a PC for gaming and streaming that costs less than £1000?
Looking for a PC for gaming and streaming that costs less than £1000?
Hey, I got an Nvidia 3070TI but I want to make a killer gaming PC for less than £1000 that I can upgrade later. I have an Nvidia M4000 too and might add it if it helps. This machine will just be used for playing games and streaming videos plus regular stuff. It needs good specs so it runs fast. Sorry about the delay, thanks! Edit: I don't need a keyboard or mouse since I already have them, and I use GoXLR so maybe my sound card matters too? Thanks.
Here is a breakdown of what you are getting for the same price, all in one place. You will get an Intel Core i5-12600KF CPU for £250.44. It runs at 3.7 GHz and has ten cores. You also need a cooler to keep it running cool. That is a Corsair iCUE H150i RGB PRO XT liquid cooler that costs £98.99. Your computer needs a board to connect everything together, and you are getting an MSI motherboard for £169.98. It has WiFi and uses DDR4 RAM. You will also need memory sticks to store your programs or data. That is a Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro that holds 32 GB (two sticks of 16 GB) and costs £134.99. To save space on the hard drive, you can use a Western Digital Black SSD for £97.49. This one is an M.2 NVMe drive with 1 TB of storage. Alternatively, you could buy a bigger internal hard drive from Seagate SkyHawk that holds 2 TB and costs £59.47. For the case that will house all these parts, you can use a Corsair iCUE tower for £99.98 or an MSI motherboard for £169.98 depending on what you need. To make sure your power doesn't get cut off while things are running, you should buy a Corsair RM power supply rated at 850 Watts that costs £99.98. All these prices come with shipping and taxes included. The total cost for all this stuff is about £1011.32.
Here is what you need to know: for DDR4 Z690 chips, getting at least 4000MHz RAM is the best way to get full use out of an Intel 12th Gen CPU (though 4800MHz might be better). Also, because Z690s start working with 4800MHz speed, anything slower than that won't really help. There are lots of reports of WHEA errors causing a blue screen on some Z690 boards when the graphics card is set to PCIe Gen 4 mode. I used to think turning it down to PCIe Gen 3 was the only fix, but we aren't sure if just updating the BIOS will solve that. That said, an air cooler like the Scythe Fuma 2 works fine on a 12600, especially since it doesn't get as hot as the newer 12700 or 12900 models. It really depends if you plan to overclock.
You probably won't need extra RAM right now because DDR5 cards are too expensive for most people. Even if you try to put a 2133 MHz stick on an Alder Lake CPU, it will probably not make a big difference in your performance. It is much easier to get high-speed DDR4 sticks over 4000 MHz. Bandwidth isn't the only thing that matters; if the timings are really slow, that can add up and cause lag, which you don't want.
I think you were the one who downvoted my post because it came four minutes before yours. You didn't quote your exact thought so I will tell you exactly what's wrong with what you said. You say that 2133 speed RAM won't make a big difference, but maybe I was wrong about how easy it is to find the fastest RAM at 4000 speed. It isn't like having nearly double the speed doesn't help things move faster either, and not even double the speed adds nearly as much benefit as you say because only two or three CPU cycles are added, which is a very tiny percentage compared to doubling the speed. Whether DDR4 RAM at 4000 speed is still easy to find or not, it's clear that Alder Lake on Z690 boards starts at and lists as 4800 and above, so if you want to get the most out of your build with Alder Lake, you should definitely go for 4800. You need to stop thinking higher speed RAM is useless because of timing delays; that's completely wrong, especially since you are quick to downvote posts that explain the truth on this topic. All you have to do is face reality like it or not, upgrading to Alder Lake will cost a lot right now unless you happen to have fast DDR4, which many people in their current setups don't because old Intel CPUs ran fine on 3200 speed. Also, I wasn't really wrong about the availability of 4000 speed RAM; mostly just not specific enough. The truth is that getting DDR4 at 4000 actually IS hard to find in some brands, even very popular ones like Corsair. Most people consider Alder Lake an upgrade for enthusiasts and gamers who build these rigs carefully, and they are particular about what components they buy, so they don't skimp on the speed of things. They want to get every possible potential out of their project, not just what barely gets them by the cut-off.
It's hard to find Corsair RAM on sites like Newegg, which means it's not actually easy to get. Jaytwocents often makes videos that are wrong and don't tell the truth about things he thinks are true. Linus isn't always right either. It feels weird how you call people like "great techtubers" but then say the facts are just out there. That doesn't really help your argument. Also, it's strange if you start by saying 2133 RAM won't make a huge difference, but later claim you're using 4133 RAM. So I get why you like Jay and Linus. If you had mentioned Steve at Gamers Nexus before, you would have sounded more sure of what a great techtuber is.