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It doesn't matter if it's a port. Steam needs to establish a benchmark.

It doesn't matter if it's a port. Steam needs to establish a benchmark.

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axsthetiic
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10-19-2023, 12:25 AM
#11
I'll just leave this here. STOP. PREORDERING. GAMES. PERIOD. As long as people continue to preorder, or otherwise buy shitty games at launch. Wait a while for the steam sale, FFS you have nothing to lose, and everything to gain (a cheaper purchase).
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axsthetiic
10-19-2023, 12:25 AM #11

I'll just leave this here. STOP. PREORDERING. GAMES. PERIOD. As long as people continue to preorder, or otherwise buy shitty games at launch. Wait a while for the steam sale, FFS you have nothing to lose, and everything to gain (a cheaper purchase).

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mcbudder2004
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10-20-2023, 04:16 PM
#12
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mcbudder2004
10-20-2023, 04:16 PM #12

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Ghostiepie
Member
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10-21-2023, 02:50 PM
#13
Blizzard usually lets people pre-order, but I find it strange to buy something that hasn’t been released yet. I’d probably pre-order WoW:Legion if there was a collector’s version worth the investment, though the secondary market is unlikely to be profitable. The Mist of Pandaria did have an interesting collector edition, but I stopped playing before Cataclysm returned to Warlords of Draenor.
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Ghostiepie
10-21-2023, 02:50 PM #13

Blizzard usually lets people pre-order, but I find it strange to buy something that hasn’t been released yet. I’d probably pre-order WoW:Legion if there was a collector’s version worth the investment, though the secondary market is unlikely to be profitable. The Mist of Pandaria did have an interesting collector edition, but I stopped playing before Cataclysm returned to Warlords of Draenor.

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clownvomit
Member
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10-23-2023, 02:08 PM
#14
They’re focused on making money first, especially with PS4 limits in mind. They made the simplest possible port, ignoring what PC fans think. They don’t care about criticism because enough people will buy it anyway—just because they love PS4. It feels almost like free cash. How can they not act like a business?
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clownvomit
10-23-2023, 02:08 PM #14

They’re focused on making money first, especially with PS4 limits in mind. They made the simplest possible port, ignoring what PC fans think. They don’t care about criticism because enough people will buy it anyway—just because they love PS4. It feels almost like free cash. How can they not act like a business?

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Niall001
Member
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10-25-2023, 03:26 PM
#15
They focus solely on the finances; to capture interest, we must offer a refund. When enough people do so, they’ll notice the drop in profits and may shift to providing better games or halt sales on PC.
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Niall001
10-25-2023, 03:26 PM #15

They focus solely on the finances; to capture interest, we must offer a refund. When enough people do so, they’ll notice the drop in profits and may shift to providing better games or halt sales on PC.

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puppydemon20
Member
165
11-02-2023, 11:10 AM
#16
When many users ask for refunds, it clearly signals to developers and publishers that PC gamers are becoming more assertive. They've been offering poor ports for years knowing refunds on PC were unlikely. Even with a physical copy, labels or strict policies like "no refunds once opened" are common. Steam refunds disrupt this pattern, and hopefully the industry will improve in the future.
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puppydemon20
11-02-2023, 11:10 AM #16

When many users ask for refunds, it clearly signals to developers and publishers that PC gamers are becoming more assertive. They've been offering poor ports for years knowing refunds on PC were unlikely. Even with a physical copy, labels or strict policies like "no refunds once opened" are common. Steam refunds disrupt this pattern, and hopefully the industry will improve in the future.

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0_Fusion_0
Junior Member
24
11-03-2023, 10:28 AM
#17
Wow, it's incredible how many people are drawn to this person. He talks a lot about video game ethics, especially against pre-orders and early access support. Yet he films himself playing Floor 2 in early access with the developers. All his comments sound like a joke, and he only shares them to entertain his followers.
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0_Fusion_0
11-03-2023, 10:28 AM #17

Wow, it's incredible how many people are drawn to this person. He talks a lot about video game ethics, especially against pre-orders and early access support. Yet he films himself playing Floor 2 in early access with the developers. All his comments sound like a joke, and he only shares them to entertain his followers.

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Cohesionz
Junior Member
12
11-07-2023, 10:26 PM
#18
He also informed his listeners about the situation, similar to how he shares details about sponsored content in his recent video of Volume. He clarified that his friendship with Mike Bithell means any statements should be seen as potentially biased. He isn't against early access outright, but only when it's used to justify releasing incomplete games.
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Cohesionz
11-07-2023, 10:26 PM #18

He also informed his listeners about the situation, similar to how he shares details about sponsored content in his recent video of Volume. He clarified that his friendship with Mike Bithell means any statements should be seen as potentially biased. He isn't against early access outright, but only when it's used to justify releasing incomplete games.

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CrimsonFrenzy
Junior Member
44
11-09-2023, 06:09 PM
#19
1) Ask for a refund from Steam.
2) It’s not an offense, but your reason for pre-ordering this game wasn’t solid.
3) I accept Steam should have better standards. Unfortunately, that isn’t happening now, so we as consumers must take some accountability by avoiding supporting (pre-ordering, buying, defending, etc.) games that don’t meet expectations.
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CrimsonFrenzy
11-09-2023, 06:09 PM #19

1) Ask for a refund from Steam.
2) It’s not an offense, but your reason for pre-ordering this game wasn’t solid.
3) I accept Steam should have better standards. Unfortunately, that isn’t happening now, so we as consumers must take some accountability by avoiding supporting (pre-ordering, buying, defending, etc.) games that don’t meet expectations.

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Ged_Merrillin
Member
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11-15-2023, 03:04 AM
#20
BDobbinsFTW creates compelling content. Though his tone can feel negative, completing his videos reveals a genuine passion for games. He critiques not out of dislike but from a place of deep appreciation, aiming to help them improve and shine.
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Ged_Merrillin
11-15-2023, 03:04 AM #20

BDobbinsFTW creates compelling content. Though his tone can feel negative, completing his videos reveals a genuine passion for games. He critiques not out of dislike but from a place of deep appreciation, aiming to help them improve and shine.

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