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Issues with RAM performance despite XMP settings not working

Issues with RAM performance despite XMP settings not working

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MigosATL
Member
213
02-17-2016, 12:56 PM
#1
Hey everyone, my school term is wrapping up and I've finally started exploring overclocking. My first attempt was to run the RAM at its advertised speed, but I'm already running into issues.

I have:
Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor
Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
MSI Z170A XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM EDITION ATX LGA1151 Motherboard

Following the usual advice from online tutorials, I enabled XMP. But my system keeps failing to load. When I manually adjust the frequency, it works at 2400MHz, suggesting that at 3000MHz the RAM isn't receiving enough voltage even with XMP enabled. Under voltage settings, the DRAM Voltage is set to Auto and reads 1.216V, but I can't change it manually. It's unclear if the voltage actually increases when XMP is activated.

Anyone have a clue what I might be missing?
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MigosATL
02-17-2016, 12:56 PM #1

Hey everyone, my school term is wrapping up and I've finally started exploring overclocking. My first attempt was to run the RAM at its advertised speed, but I'm already running into issues.

I have:
Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor
Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
MSI Z170A XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM EDITION ATX LGA1151 Motherboard

Following the usual advice from online tutorials, I enabled XMP. But my system keeps failing to load. When I manually adjust the frequency, it works at 2400MHz, suggesting that at 3000MHz the RAM isn't receiving enough voltage even with XMP enabled. Under voltage settings, the DRAM Voltage is set to Auto and reads 1.216V, but I can't change it manually. It's unclear if the voltage actually increases when XMP is activated.

Anyone have a clue what I might be missing?

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zMinatoPvP_
Junior Member
46
02-19-2016, 08:15 AM
#2
The memory controller in your CPU is set for "DDR4-1866/2133, DDR3L-1333/1600 @ 1.35V".
The RAM operates at increased speeds, yet you are exceeding the CPU memory controller's designated limits.
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zMinatoPvP_
02-19-2016, 08:15 AM #2

The memory controller in your CPU is set for "DDR4-1866/2133, DDR3L-1333/1600 @ 1.35V".
The RAM operates at increased speeds, yet you are exceeding the CPU memory controller's designated limits.

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Hoewls
Member
145
02-19-2016, 09:50 AM
#3
The memory controller in your CPU is listed for "DDR4-1866/2133, DDR3L-1333/1600 @ 1.35V". The RAM supports higher frequencies, yet you are increasing the CPU memory controller beyond these set limits.
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Hoewls
02-19-2016, 09:50 AM #3

The memory controller in your CPU is listed for "DDR4-1866/2133, DDR3L-1333/1600 @ 1.35V". The RAM supports higher frequencies, yet you are increasing the CPU memory controller beyond these set limits.

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coolgirlcool7
Junior Member
23
02-20-2016, 04:13 PM
#4
Based on what I've seen before, it appears faster speeds are possible only by connecting the CPU to the OC port, so I'll begin experimenting and observe the effect on RAM speed.
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coolgirlcool7
02-20-2016, 04:13 PM #4

Based on what I've seen before, it appears faster speeds are possible only by connecting the CPU to the OC port, so I'll begin experimenting and observe the effect on RAM speed.

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master_kingl
Member
93
02-22-2016, 08:03 AM
#5
From what I found elsewhere, faster speeds are only possible by OCing the CPU, so I’ll experiment with that and observe the effect on RAM speed.
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master_kingl
02-22-2016, 08:03 AM #5

From what I found elsewhere, faster speeds are only possible by OCing the CPU, so I’ll experiment with that and observe the effect on RAM speed.

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_ImVentrix
Member
143
02-22-2016, 09:06 AM
#6
what is the precise ram model you're referring to? when i mentioned fail to load, did you choose to load it to windows or bios? also, have you attempted using a single stick with an xmp profile?
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_ImVentrix
02-22-2016, 09:06 AM #6

what is the precise ram model you're referring to? when i mentioned fail to load, did you choose to load it to windows or bios? also, have you attempted using a single stick with an xmp profile?

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LadyBiscoito
Member
111
02-23-2016, 07:02 PM
#7
Just because a memory module is labeled for high-speed operation doesn't ensure it will function properly in your setup at that rate.
The achievable speed depends on the motherboard and its chipset.
The memory controller on the motherboard might be the main constraint, and sometimes the BIOS firmware version of the board plays a role.
If an Xmp profile is mentioned for the memory, the motherboard's chipset must support those frequencies to access it.
Additionally, factors like the CPU model, its range, or generation can influence the maximum achievable speed.
To achieve higher speeds, you may need to disable Xmp modes and manually adjust voltage, latency, and CPU core multiplier settings, sometimes even overclocking the CPU's FSB.
Increasing the CPU's FSB frequency can boost memory speed, but doing so increases power demands.
If your motherboard restricts the voltage range for RAM or modules, you might be limited to a lower stable frequency.
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LadyBiscoito
02-23-2016, 07:02 PM #7

Just because a memory module is labeled for high-speed operation doesn't ensure it will function properly in your setup at that rate.
The achievable speed depends on the motherboard and its chipset.
The memory controller on the motherboard might be the main constraint, and sometimes the BIOS firmware version of the board plays a role.
If an Xmp profile is mentioned for the memory, the motherboard's chipset must support those frequencies to access it.
Additionally, factors like the CPU model, its range, or generation can influence the maximum achievable speed.
To achieve higher speeds, you may need to disable Xmp modes and manually adjust voltage, latency, and CPU core multiplier settings, sometimes even overclocking the CPU's FSB.
Increasing the CPU's FSB frequency can boost memory speed, but doing so increases power demands.
If your motherboard restricts the voltage range for RAM or modules, you might be limited to a lower stable frequency.

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HolyNight98
Member
187
03-01-2016, 02:57 AM
#8
Midnight822 :
VincentP :
The memory controller in your CPU is listed as "DDR4-1866/2133, DDR3L-1333/1600 @ 1.35V".
The RAM supports higher frequencies, yet you're pushing the CPU memory controller beyond those set limits.
I thought those numbers referred to the standard performance, not the achievable speeds after overclocking.
True stock speeds are what Intel promises will function correctly. Any other claims aren't backed by support.
You can usually overclock within certain boundaries, and running at DDR4-2400 on a CPU designed for DDR4-2133 might be reasonable.
However, attempting DDR4-3000 on a CPU rated for DDR4-2133 could be quite ambitious.
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HolyNight98
03-01-2016, 02:57 AM #8

Midnight822 :
VincentP :
The memory controller in your CPU is listed as "DDR4-1866/2133, DDR3L-1333/1600 @ 1.35V".
The RAM supports higher frequencies, yet you're pushing the CPU memory controller beyond those set limits.
I thought those numbers referred to the standard performance, not the achievable speeds after overclocking.
True stock speeds are what Intel promises will function correctly. Any other claims aren't backed by support.
You can usually overclock within certain boundaries, and running at DDR4-2400 on a CPU designed for DDR4-2133 might be reasonable.
However, attempting DDR4-3000 on a CPU rated for DDR4-2133 could be quite ambitious.

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_xCozmic
Junior Member
46
03-02-2016, 09:31 AM
#9
Shaun explains that purchasing a high-speed memory module doesn't ensure compatibility with your system's capabilities. The actual performance depends on the motherboard and its chipset. The motherboard's memory controller may be the main constraint, and sometimes the BIOS firmware version of the board plays a role. If an Xmp profile is mentioned, the motherboard's chipset must support those frequencies. Additionally, the CPU's model or generation can influence the maximum achievable speed. To achieve higher speeds, you might need to disable Xmp modes and manually adjust voltage and latency settings, potentially reducing the CPU core multiplier and overclocking the CPU's FSB in certain scenarios. Increasing the CPU's FSB frequency can boost memory speed, but higher frequencies demand more stable voltage. If your motherboard has a limited voltage range for RAM, you may be restricted to a lower stable frequency. This advice was common before 2007, when Intel began integrating memory controllers into their CPUs, starting with the first Core i7 series and continuing thereafter.
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_xCozmic
03-02-2016, 09:31 AM #9

Shaun explains that purchasing a high-speed memory module doesn't ensure compatibility with your system's capabilities. The actual performance depends on the motherboard and its chipset. The motherboard's memory controller may be the main constraint, and sometimes the BIOS firmware version of the board plays a role. If an Xmp profile is mentioned, the motherboard's chipset must support those frequencies. Additionally, the CPU's model or generation can influence the maximum achievable speed. To achieve higher speeds, you might need to disable Xmp modes and manually adjust voltage and latency settings, potentially reducing the CPU core multiplier and overclocking the CPU's FSB in certain scenarios. Increasing the CPU's FSB frequency can boost memory speed, but higher frequencies demand more stable voltage. If your motherboard has a limited voltage range for RAM, you may be restricted to a lower stable frequency. This advice was common before 2007, when Intel began integrating memory controllers into their CPUs, starting with the first Core i7 series and continuing thereafter.

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anthonyyy388
Member
184
03-02-2016, 05:00 PM
#10
The memory controller details for your CPU are listed as "DDR4-1866/2133, DDR3L-1333/1600 @ 1.35V".
Some users have noted that while the RAM supports higher frequencies, they are pushing the CPU memory controller beyond the official specifications.
I thought those numbers represented standard performance, not the actual results after overclocking.
The manufacturer guarantees the base speeds, and any changes require official support.
Generally, you can still overclock within limits, and running at DDR4-2400 appears reasonable for your setup.
Attempting DDR4-3000 on a CPU rated for DDR4-2133 seems quite ambitious.
Testing the CPU with DDR4-3000 speed on a board that supports it could work, as many reviews suggest most users reach 3000 without problems.
It’s worth considering whether older Maxwell chips might perform better in this scenario.
Reaching 3000 isn’t the main concern for me—it’s more about understanding the process and optimizing hardware performance.
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anthonyyy388
03-02-2016, 05:00 PM #10

The memory controller details for your CPU are listed as "DDR4-1866/2133, DDR3L-1333/1600 @ 1.35V".
Some users have noted that while the RAM supports higher frequencies, they are pushing the CPU memory controller beyond the official specifications.
I thought those numbers represented standard performance, not the actual results after overclocking.
The manufacturer guarantees the base speeds, and any changes require official support.
Generally, you can still overclock within limits, and running at DDR4-2400 appears reasonable for your setup.
Attempting DDR4-3000 on a CPU rated for DDR4-2133 seems quite ambitious.
Testing the CPU with DDR4-3000 speed on a board that supports it could work, as many reviews suggest most users reach 3000 without problems.
It’s worth considering whether older Maxwell chips might perform better in this scenario.
Reaching 3000 isn’t the main concern for me—it’s more about understanding the process and optimizing hardware performance.

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