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Issues with RAM failing to reach maximum performance settings.

Issues with RAM failing to reach maximum performance settings.

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Spaceface16518
Senior Member
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08-11-2019, 07:58 AM
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Hey there, I added another 2x8GB Corsair Vegeance RGB Pro to reach a total of 32GB. All the modules were rated at 3600MHz with identical timings and model codes. After enabling XMP, my motherboard reported an overclock failure. I removed the old RAM and installed the new ones in slots 2 and 4 as suggested, and it worked perfectly at 3600MHz. But using the first and third slots kept failing to reach that speed, even when the second and fourth slots were empty. I increased the IO and SA voltage up to 1.2v and a bit more, but it didn’t help. Right now I’m running the sticks at 3333MHz with a BCLK of 102.5, which was the setting before I adjusted it after the PC started up with 3333MHz RAM. My system specs include an Intel Core i7-8700 MSI Z370 Gaming M5, 4x8GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4-3600, Zotac GeForce RTX 2060 Super, 250GB Samsung 860 Evo, 400GB Intel S3610, and a 2TB Toshiba P300 Cooler Master V850 Gold PSU.
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Spaceface16518
08-11-2019, 07:58 AM #1

Hey there, I added another 2x8GB Corsair Vegeance RGB Pro to reach a total of 32GB. All the modules were rated at 3600MHz with identical timings and model codes. After enabling XMP, my motherboard reported an overclock failure. I removed the old RAM and installed the new ones in slots 2 and 4 as suggested, and it worked perfectly at 3600MHz. But using the first and third slots kept failing to reach that speed, even when the second and fourth slots were empty. I increased the IO and SA voltage up to 1.2v and a bit more, but it didn’t help. Right now I’m running the sticks at 3333MHz with a BCLK of 102.5, which was the setting before I adjusted it after the PC started up with 3333MHz RAM. My system specs include an Intel Core i7-8700 MSI Z370 Gaming M5, 4x8GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4-3600, Zotac GeForce RTX 2060 Super, 250GB Samsung 860 Evo, 400GB Intel S3610, and a 2TB Toshiba P300 Cooler Master V850 Gold PSU.

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RoseJr
Member
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08-13-2019, 12:01 AM
#2
Combine sticks from both the old and new kits. Use one old stick and one new stick. Adjust the voltage to 1.35 and set the gain control between 1.1 and 1.2. Test at a lower frequency such as 3200 or 3000, ensuring stability. Then move to 3600.
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RoseJr
08-13-2019, 12:01 AM #2

Combine sticks from both the old and new kits. Use one old stick and one new stick. Adjust the voltage to 1.35 and set the gain control between 1.1 and 1.2. Test at a lower frequency such as 3200 or 3000, ensuring stability. Then move to 3600.

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Chuck978
Member
110
08-13-2019, 01:48 AM
#3
I already tried that. It doesn’t look like the RAM problem, it’s more about the memory controller. All the sticks reach 3600MHz as long as they’re in the 2nd and 4th slots.
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Chuck978
08-13-2019, 01:48 AM #3

I already tried that. It doesn’t look like the RAM problem, it’s more about the memory controller. All the sticks reach 3600MHz as long as they’re in the 2nd and 4th slots.

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Elia1153
Member
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08-13-2019, 02:15 PM
#4
It's operating at 3417MHz right now.
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Elia1153
08-13-2019, 02:15 PM #4

It's operating at 3417MHz right now.

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Derpy_DanTDM
Member
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08-17-2019, 05:36 AM
#5
I'll go with the same idea. Using all four sticks, then adjusting the VCIO and voltage, and checking again. Edited September 14, 2020 by TofuHaroto
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Derpy_DanTDM
08-17-2019, 05:36 AM #5

I'll go with the same idea. Using all four sticks, then adjusting the VCIO and voltage, and checking again. Edited September 14, 2020 by TofuHaroto

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SedentarySauS
Senior Member
411
08-19-2019, 10:04 PM
#6
Likely poor board layout, especially if it fails at 3600 at slots 1 and 3—dimming isn’t too bad since everything runs smoothly at that speed. CPU weakness in IMC shouldn’t make slots 1 and 3 unstable, as they all operate at 3600 just fine.
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SedentarySauS
08-19-2019, 10:04 PM #6

Likely poor board layout, especially if it fails at 3600 at slots 1 and 3—dimming isn’t too bad since everything runs smoothly at that speed. CPU weakness in IMC shouldn’t make slots 1 and 3 unstable, as they all operate at 3600 just fine.

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xLeadxSingerx
Junior Member
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08-20-2019, 06:04 AM
#7
Currently CPU IO and CPU SA are both at 1.2v. Values 3000 and 3200 remain stable. Adjusting the voltage doesn't affect the outcome.
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xLeadxSingerx
08-20-2019, 06:04 AM #7

Currently CPU IO and CPU SA are both at 1.2v. Values 3000 and 3200 remain stable. Adjusting the voltage doesn't affect the outcome.

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JoongeWaffelHD
Junior Member
21
08-20-2019, 02:26 PM
#8
It might simply be the IMC not managing 3600 on all four dimmers, which puts more strain on the IMC. You could attempt updating the BIOS and see if it makes a difference, but the performance gap between 3400 and 3600 won't be obvious.
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JoongeWaffelHD
08-20-2019, 02:26 PM #8

It might simply be the IMC not managing 3600 on all four dimmers, which puts more strain on the IMC. You could attempt updating the BIOS and see if it makes a difference, but the performance gap between 3400 and 3600 won't be obvious.

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SupaSoap
Member
50
08-20-2019, 04:02 PM
#9
That's disappointing. I think the Z370 Gaming M5 is a mid-range option that was the reason I chose it. If the memory controller on the CPU is the problem, I might switch to a used 9900k when a reasonably affordable one becomes available nearby.
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SupaSoap
08-20-2019, 04:02 PM #9

That's disappointing. I think the Z370 Gaming M5 is a mid-range option that was the reason I chose it. If the memory controller on the CPU is the problem, I might switch to a used 9900k when a reasonably affordable one becomes available nearby.

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MaMaCassi
Junior Member
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08-21-2019, 11:04 AM
#10
I'll update the BIOS to version 7B58v1A and keep you informed.
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MaMaCassi
08-21-2019, 11:04 AM #10

I'll update the BIOS to version 7B58v1A and keep you informed.

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