F5F Stay Refreshed Hardware Desktop Issue with booting is unclear. Problem varies across systems. Need more details for resolution.

Issue with booting is unclear. Problem varies across systems. Need more details for resolution.

Issue with booting is unclear. Problem varies across systems. Need more details for resolution.

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Greywuff
Junior Member
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08-23-2024, 06:29 AM
#1
Hi guys good afternoon well i'm having an extremely bizarre problem and i don't know what to do anymore because i've already changed some parts and the problem persisted I had a 4070 eagle with an msi mpg b550 and an xpg pylon 650w and randomly when turning on the PC, the motherboard would lock on the GPU light (white VGA light). this usually indicates a problem with the GPU i replaced the motherboard with a tuf b550 and the problem persisted i ended up returning the eagle and got a 4070 super windforce on sale and the problem persisted i went there again and swapped the xpg 650w for a core reactor 650w and it still persisted all that's left is the CPU (which I highly doubt, I've never damaged it, dropped it etc or bent pins) or the RAM (tested several times on memtest86 and it never shows any errors). If it was the CPU or the RAM, wouldn't it point to the respective light on the motherboard rather than always stopping at the VGA? I also swapped the sata SSD for an m2 one just to be on the safe side and it's still there. I don't know if it's worth changing it (or if it's really bad luck that it's the CPU or the RAM). RAM and CPU have never given me any problems before, and I've never overclocked them or anything like that (the 5700x3d is even locked for overclocking). Anyway, I've never looked into it I have 4 3200mhz team group cards (native speed, I've always used this speed and it's never crashed). That's what's most bizarre, when the PC turns on I literally have no problems. i have an ultragear connected to the VGA by display port cable ( with a 90 degree adapter on the monitor , also no problems on the monitor) and samsung 4k bu8000 tv connected by an HDMI 2.0 cable directly, without adapters(no problems as well) I have an orico bluetooth dongle (I suspect it may be freaking the motherboard on boot), a redragon keyboard (dragonborn switch brown), a logitech g305 (I use the logitech extension cable and dongle) and a corsair hs65 surround headset. All the devices work perfectly when the PC is turned on (this failure to post happens once a month or so, randomly without any pattern). Could it be the gpu cable that's damage maybe (HDMI or dp)? I connect the tv to my own power strip (quality one, which is also connected to the router). and on the pc I have another power strip (I connect the monitor and the pc to it). I don't know what else to do, is there something wrong or a detail? is there a possibility that the computer case is doing it ? the power button always passes power, the fans turn on etc but sometimes it stops at the white light of the VGA, I have to press reset on the case and it turns on or is it possible that the line filter is causing this? I think it's impossible to go through 2 ssds, 2 motherboards, 2 gpus and 2 power supplies with the same behavior. where should i try to solve it? thanks
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Greywuff
08-23-2024, 06:29 AM #1

Hi guys good afternoon well i'm having an extremely bizarre problem and i don't know what to do anymore because i've already changed some parts and the problem persisted I had a 4070 eagle with an msi mpg b550 and an xpg pylon 650w and randomly when turning on the PC, the motherboard would lock on the GPU light (white VGA light). this usually indicates a problem with the GPU i replaced the motherboard with a tuf b550 and the problem persisted i ended up returning the eagle and got a 4070 super windforce on sale and the problem persisted i went there again and swapped the xpg 650w for a core reactor 650w and it still persisted all that's left is the CPU (which I highly doubt, I've never damaged it, dropped it etc or bent pins) or the RAM (tested several times on memtest86 and it never shows any errors). If it was the CPU or the RAM, wouldn't it point to the respective light on the motherboard rather than always stopping at the VGA? I also swapped the sata SSD for an m2 one just to be on the safe side and it's still there. I don't know if it's worth changing it (or if it's really bad luck that it's the CPU or the RAM). RAM and CPU have never given me any problems before, and I've never overclocked them or anything like that (the 5700x3d is even locked for overclocking). Anyway, I've never looked into it I have 4 3200mhz team group cards (native speed, I've always used this speed and it's never crashed). That's what's most bizarre, when the PC turns on I literally have no problems. i have an ultragear connected to the VGA by display port cable ( with a 90 degree adapter on the monitor , also no problems on the monitor) and samsung 4k bu8000 tv connected by an HDMI 2.0 cable directly, without adapters(no problems as well) I have an orico bluetooth dongle (I suspect it may be freaking the motherboard on boot), a redragon keyboard (dragonborn switch brown), a logitech g305 (I use the logitech extension cable and dongle) and a corsair hs65 surround headset. All the devices work perfectly when the PC is turned on (this failure to post happens once a month or so, randomly without any pattern). Could it be the gpu cable that's damage maybe (HDMI or dp)? I connect the tv to my own power strip (quality one, which is also connected to the router). and on the pc I have another power strip (I connect the monitor and the pc to it). I don't know what else to do, is there something wrong or a detail? is there a possibility that the computer case is doing it ? the power button always passes power, the fans turn on etc but sometimes it stops at the white light of the VGA, I have to press reset on the case and it turns on or is it possible that the line filter is causing this? I think it's impossible to go through 2 ssds, 2 motherboards, 2 gpus and 2 power supplies with the same behavior. where should i try to solve it? thanks

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gavinom123
Member
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08-24-2024, 05:51 PM
#2
Try using just two sticks of RAM to check for stability. This should help determine if the issue lies with RAM consistency. Sometimes a BIOS update resolves the problem, but you might need to revert to the original BIOS version provided with your motherboard. Consider whether the RAM was sold in a matching four-stick package or if you have two separate kits totaling four sticks. If you have two kits, compare the numbers on the stickers and place one in Slot A-2, the other in Slot B-2. Test each kit individually, then align the matching numbers when testing all four and place them in Slot A-1 and Slot B-1.
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gavinom123
08-24-2024, 05:51 PM #2

Try using just two sticks of RAM to check for stability. This should help determine if the issue lies with RAM consistency. Sometimes a BIOS update resolves the problem, but you might need to revert to the original BIOS version provided with your motherboard. Consider whether the RAM was sold in a matching four-stick package or if you have two separate kits totaling four sticks. If you have two kits, compare the numbers on the stickers and place one in Slot A-2, the other in Slot B-2. Test each kit individually, then align the matching numbers when testing all four and place them in Slot A-1 and Slot B-1.

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weyheynicole
Member
50
08-25-2024, 03:50 AM
#3
I’m curious about purchasing two matching 3200 16GB drives. Could the issue lie elsewhere, such as insufficient RAM or a failing motherboard, rather than the RAM itself? Running MemTest86 doesn’t rule out problems either.
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weyheynicole
08-25-2024, 03:50 AM #3

I’m curious about purchasing two matching 3200 16GB drives. Could the issue lie elsewhere, such as insufficient RAM or a failing motherboard, rather than the RAM itself? Running MemTest86 doesn’t rule out problems either.

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08-29-2024, 03:04 PM
#4
Referenced in the most recent bios as well.
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pandagamer5002
08-29-2024, 03:04 PM #4

Referenced in the most recent bios as well.

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ThnksFrThMmrs_
Junior Member
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09-02-2024, 06:56 AM
#5
MSI boards may react unpredictably to BIOS upgrades. Ensuring your RAM matches is essential if problems arise.
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ThnksFrThMmrs_
09-02-2024, 06:56 AM #5

MSI boards may react unpredictably to BIOS upgrades. Ensuring your RAM matches is essential if problems arise.

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el_flo
Member
61
09-03-2024, 09:17 PM
#6
I'm currently using a TUF mobile device with the B550 gaming plus.
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el_flo
09-03-2024, 09:17 PM #6

I'm currently using a TUF mobile device with the B550 gaming plus.

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Dil2601
Member
109
09-03-2024, 10:28 PM
#7
remaining issues still two PSUs, two mobos, two GPUs same concern
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Dil2601
09-03-2024, 10:28 PM #7

remaining issues still two PSUs, two mobos, two GPUs same concern

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09-03-2024, 11:29 PM
#8
Check your current RAM capacity first. Begin by testing one module, then move to two if they come in a compatible set. If none fit or match, it may signal instability. A complete set works best for reliability. Putting two identical sets together can still provide solid stability when arranged properly. Ideally, use matching modules all together.
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WitherStarWolf
09-03-2024, 11:29 PM #8

Check your current RAM capacity first. Begin by testing one module, then move to two if they come in a compatible set. If none fit or match, it may signal instability. A complete set works best for reliability. Putting two identical sets together can still provide solid stability when arranged properly. Ideally, use matching modules all together.

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FoodIsGoodPVP
Junior Member
3
09-04-2024, 06:42 AM
#9
I haven’t lost your confidence, but I’ve been using these RAM sticks for more than two years (over two years in the motherboard). It’s just beginning to happen now. I can’t figure out why it wouldn’t stop at the CPU or even after a successful boot—ram seems fine, and the PC works perfectly with no issues.
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FoodIsGoodPVP
09-04-2024, 06:42 AM #9

I haven’t lost your confidence, but I’ve been using these RAM sticks for more than two years (over two years in the motherboard). It’s just beginning to happen now. I can’t figure out why it wouldn’t stop at the CPU or even after a successful boot—ram seems fine, and the PC works perfectly with no issues.

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NinjaTurtleNL
Member
207
09-09-2024, 04:47 AM
#10
Occasionally BIOS upgrades resolve issues while other times they introduce new ones.
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NinjaTurtleNL
09-09-2024, 04:47 AM #10

Occasionally BIOS upgrades resolve issues while other times they introduce new ones.