Issue occurs with system crashes during gameplay, accompanied by a DRAM yellow indicator.
Issue occurs with system crashes during gameplay, accompanied by a DRAM yellow indicator.
On bootup, on the motherboard I sometimes see the cpu and ram lights pop up for a moment, before it is able to POST and I am able to use the PC as usual; that is until I start playing some games.
Games
When in Tales of Arise or Monster Hunter World, I will experience crashes here and there, in Tales of Arise I get a clean reboot whereas with World I get a freeze (reproduced within 15 minutes of playing, happened as i was alt tabbing around and got the dram yellow light).
In my playing of Guilty Gear Strive or Street Fighter I haven't really noticed much (maybe I havent let those run long enough).
When trying the Monster Hunter Wilds benchmark, my system crashes and just reboots itself. I am able to catch the DRAM light pop on being yellow. This is something that's been reported by others with an AMD graphics card so I wouldn't discount needing to wait for an update (Im on 25.1.1) Reducing my RAM speed to 4800 / 5200 I was able to not crash instantly, but on 6000 it crashed within seconds of booting up.
In all three cases I'll keep occt open / the radeon monitoring overlay open and I don't notice anything off about the CPU, Memory, and GPU metrics and then it just dies.
Running Dolphin emulator I've been stable and havent encountered any crashes.
Stress Tests / Tests performed
I've turned the EXPO profile on and off but to no avail, the system instability remains.
Turned off the IGPU.
I ran Memtest86 overnight and got 9 passes (and ran it with different ram speeds and never encountered any failures)
My
BIOS
for my motherboard is up to date; 7D75v1L 2024-12-26
I updated
AMD graphics driver
is up to date 25.1.1
Ran
Cinebench
for both CPU and GPU.
Ran various
OCCT
tests for an hour. I've had 1 crash running the `Combined` test after 23 minutes (I did combine 3D standard, 3d adaptive and VRAM at the same time) but the other two times (CPU+RAM with large dataset, AVX2 instruction set normal mode, Linpack, Memory, 3D standard) I ran it I didn't encounter any issues in the hour.
Ran
Prime95
I ran the torture test for an hour and didnt see any errors in the results.txt.
Ran
Furmark
In the crashes
Nothing in event viewer seems to give much info either, at most I see Event Id 41 task category 63 The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly.
What I haven't tried
Due to it being incredibly difficult to take out my GPU (theres very little space to depress the lock, I could try to use a wooden chopstick) I have not re-seated any components. I thought that given the extended stress tests above it was ok (this was my second time building a pc and I'm scared to take things out)
I could try downgrading Windows 11 as I know that 24h2 is apparently a big problem
Here are my specs
OS: Windows 11 24h2
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
Storage: TEAMGROUP Cardea A440 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
Video Card: Sapphire PURE Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card
Case: Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
Any insight is greatly appreciated!
Images:
https://imgur.com/a/NhOjgJ9
Using the 7800XT without XMP still causes crashes. With the 5700XT, XMP was enabled and everything functioned properly. I also removed the RAM and tested each component separately; they all worked well with the 5800XT. Recently updated: I got a new 7800XT, installed it, and it operated smoothly. I plan to return the other unit.
Welcome to the forums, newcomer!
Adjusting my RAM speed to 4800 / 5200 helped avoid immediate crashes, but at 6000 it failed within seconds after startup. This seems like either a memory problem or an issue with your motherboard's BIOS. Could you find a RAM kit featuring AMD's E.X.P.O and DDR5-6000MHz? Also, does the problem continue when using only one stick in slot A2?
Your BIOS is current (7D75v1L, 2024-12-26). Have you reset the CMOS after confirming the BIOS flash worked?
Use DDU to uninstall all GPU drivers (Intel, Nvidia, AMD) in Safe Mode, then install the newest driver from AMD's support site via an elevated command—right-click the installer and select Run as Administrator.
Consider stress-testing with a broader range of games to check if the issue remains.
Thank you very much for your response. I'll test each of your suggestions later today and might follow up tomorrow since I haven't tried any yet.
Unfortunately, I don't have an extra DDR5-6000MHz RAM kit available.
🙁
About the other screenshots you mentioned, it seems like a "memory issue" or possibly a BIOS problem on your motherboard? The CPU and GPU appear to be okay.
Just because I was worried about misplacing the CPU/GPU.
Thanks again—I was thinking about going to a PC repair shop just to fix this.
Updating this post; I reset the CMOS using this guide (noticed everything restarted) and ran DDU in safe mode to delete all GPU drivers, then reinstalled one. Although I didn’t do it with admin rights, the process went through. When testing the benchmark with Ultra settings on 4800Mhz and 16Gb RAM, I encountered a crash, but after swapping in another stick and adjusting to 6000Mhz, the issue disappeared and the test finished successfully, even under High settings. I plan to conduct further tests with other games in the coming days. I’m hoping I’ll never need to reply to this thread again. If I face more problems, I might keep an eye out for some DDR5 discounts.
It's me again, after more testing I feel my GPU might be the cause.
Testing with my 5700XT
I replaced my 7800XT with my old 5700XT and used a stick of RAM at 6000Mhz. It worked smoothly in the tough games for an hour without any issues.
Next, I added another stick of RAM at the same speed, and it performed well in Monster Hunter World, Street Fighter 6, and Monster Hunter Wilds for over an hour without crashing.
Testing with 7800XT
I then put the original 7800XT back in, tried the Monster Hunter Wilds demo, and it crashed within five minutes. I suspected a RAM installation problem before, but now I’m considering the GPU might be the real issue.
🙁
I also have an extra set of DDR5 RAM arriving today, so I might skip it now since my current setup seems fine.
have you attempted to disable xmp, or is the RAM not properly seated?
Using the 7800XT without XMP still causes crashes.
With the 5700XT, I kept XMP enabled and everything functioned properly.
I also removed the RAM and tested each component separately; they all worked well with the 5800XT.
Recently updated: I got a new 7800XT, installed it, and it operated without issues. I plan to return the other unit.