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Is UPS better than a surge protector?

Is UPS better than a surge protector?

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LeonieTheBear
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07-02-2024, 02:27 PM
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Sounds good.
Did the person discuss any tradeoffs when choosing a more expensive surge protector from a trusted brand? It would be a significant increase in cost if it only provides minor benefits.
Edit: it appears they use a different technology compared to standard MOVs, which offers better resilience. Since I use a computer rather than a CPAP machine, I should be safe as long as my existing surge protector reliably cuts power during a failure. Given the low chance of encountering a spike that could damage it, I’m uncertain if the price of SurgeX justifies its main advantages of durability and post-spike recovery.
I’ll test connecting the UPS to the surge protector and share the outcomes.
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LeonieTheBear
07-02-2024, 02:27 PM #11

Sounds good.
Did the person discuss any tradeoffs when choosing a more expensive surge protector from a trusted brand? It would be a significant increase in cost if it only provides minor benefits.
Edit: it appears they use a different technology compared to standard MOVs, which offers better resilience. Since I use a computer rather than a CPAP machine, I should be safe as long as my existing surge protector reliably cuts power during a failure. Given the low chance of encountering a spike that could damage it, I’m uncertain if the price of SurgeX justifies its main advantages of durability and post-spike recovery.
I’ll test connecting the UPS to the surge protector and share the outcomes.

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Gunner2000
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07-02-2024, 02:27 PM
#12
Because most UPS units already have surge protection, it might be wise to follow the manufacturer's recommendations and connect the unit directly to the wall. The most reliable guidance can usually be found in the user manual. A high-quality UPS offers superior protection compared to other options.
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Gunner2000
07-02-2024, 02:27 PM #12

Because most UPS units already have surge protection, it might be wise to follow the manufacturer's recommendations and connect the unit directly to the wall. The most reliable guidance can usually be found in the user manual. A high-quality UPS offers superior protection compared to other options.

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amkli
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07-02-2024, 02:27 PM
#13
As discussed, the issue isn't the UPS's ability to handle surges. The real concern is that after its surge protection fails, it will continue supplying power without warning me of the failure. Although this situation is unlikely, I would rather avoid using a UPS and opt for a reliable surge protector with a fail-safe feature in such cases. If it's safe to use a surge protector upstream, I'm keen to learn more about it.
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amkli
07-02-2024, 02:27 PM #13

As discussed, the issue isn't the UPS's ability to handle surges. The real concern is that after its surge protection fails, it will continue supplying power without warning me of the failure. Although this situation is unlikely, I would rather avoid using a UPS and opt for a reliable surge protector with a fail-safe feature in such cases. If it's safe to use a surge protector upstream, I'm keen to learn more about it.

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rydawg3474
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07-02-2024, 02:27 PM
#14
It is usually advised against doing so. My background involves working with significantly higher voltages and currents (such as 7200V and 3000A peak), yet standard circuit protection should function independently. There are some exceptions like fuses and thermal overload relays for motor starters, but these don’t apply here. I suggest choosing one approach over the other. Many costly components are involved, and layering unknown types of protections could add unwanted complications.
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rydawg3474
07-02-2024, 02:27 PM #14

It is usually advised against doing so. My background involves working with significantly higher voltages and currents (such as 7200V and 3000A peak), yet standard circuit protection should function independently. There are some exceptions like fuses and thermal overload relays for motor starters, but these don’t apply here. I suggest choosing one approach over the other. Many costly components are involved, and layering unknown types of protections could add unwanted complications.

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JuliBr0
Senior Member
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07-02-2024, 02:27 PM
#15
I understand your perspective. If I had to pick one, I'd opt for the more powerful surge protector, even though there are options like whole-house devices that work well with a UPS. Companies that specialize in protecting UPS units, especially in industrial environments, are worth considering.
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JuliBr0
07-02-2024, 02:27 PM #15

I understand your perspective. If I had to pick one, I'd opt for the more powerful surge protector, even though there are options like whole-house devices that work well with a UPS. Companies that specialize in protecting UPS units, especially in industrial environments, are worth considering.

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Tojamz
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07-02-2024, 02:27 PM
#16
I don't believe it's accurate that the UPS will rely more on battery power. Most surge protection relies on simple devices known as MOVs. These only handle the extra voltage when it goes beyond a certain point, absorbing it and turning it into heat. They don't interfere with the normal voltage flow to the UPS.
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Tojamz
07-02-2024, 02:27 PM #16

I don't believe it's accurate that the UPS will rely more on battery power. Most surge protection relies on simple devices known as MOVs. These only handle the extra voltage when it goes beyond a certain point, absorbing it and turning it into heat. They don't interfere with the normal voltage flow to the UPS.

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HydroDrizle
Junior Member
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07-02-2024, 02:27 PM
#17
And keep in mind that surge protection (joules) adds up over time. Once it reaches the specified amount, it disappears completely. Whether it's a single massive surge or a sequence of smaller ones, the same principle applies.
For more details, you can check: https://www.rockwallelectric.com/po...ct...o-you-need
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HydroDrizle
07-02-2024, 02:27 PM #17

And keep in mind that surge protection (joules) adds up over time. Once it reaches the specified amount, it disappears completely. Whether it's a single massive surge or a sequence of smaller ones, the same principle applies.
For more details, you can check: https://www.rockwallelectric.com/po...ct...o-you-need

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