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Is there a change in the BSOD errors after a new build?

Is there a change in the BSOD errors after a new build?

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EGXC_RUNNER
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08-17-2021, 04:50 AM
#11
I've never come across or used "TestMem 5." Did you really try everything else after reinstalling it, yet still didn't interact with the memory test program? It seems like it might be doing something unusual.
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EGXC_RUNNER
08-17-2021, 04:50 AM #11

I've never come across or used "TestMem 5." Did you really try everything else after reinstalling it, yet still didn't interact with the memory test program? It seems like it might be doing something unusual.

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JEFF_JEFFERSON
Senior Member
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08-17-2021, 07:05 PM
#12
I have a duplicate post on various sites to explore different possibilities and gather insights about the problem. One of the top forum contributors on MSI recommended TestMem5, which led me to investigate further. After reviewing the information, I found an article related to it. Despite this, I’ve been told that I shouldn’t encounter any errors during popular memory tests with brand new hardware running default BIOS settings on a clean Windows installation.

I’ve been troubleshooting this issue for about 5-6 weeks. Even after setting everything up correctly and trying to use normal applications, I still experience BSODs with random errors. At this stage, using only the program or game isn’t helping prevent crashes. I’ve tried everything possible on the software side. The article also mentions HCI Memtest, so I plan to try that next to see if it resolves the issue. It wouldn’t hurt to give it a go.
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JEFF_JEFFERSON
08-17-2021, 07:05 PM #12

I have a duplicate post on various sites to explore different possibilities and gather insights about the problem. One of the top forum contributors on MSI recommended TestMem5, which led me to investigate further. After reviewing the information, I found an article related to it. Despite this, I’ve been told that I shouldn’t encounter any errors during popular memory tests with brand new hardware running default BIOS settings on a clean Windows installation.

I’ve been troubleshooting this issue for about 5-6 weeks. Even after setting everything up correctly and trying to use normal applications, I still experience BSODs with random errors. At this stage, using only the program or game isn’t helping prevent crashes. I’ve tried everything possible on the software side. The article also mentions HCI Memtest, so I plan to try that next to see if it resolves the issue. It wouldn’t hurt to give it a go.

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Relo_273
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08-17-2021, 08:58 PM
#13
HCI Mem Test completed around 70-80% with 11 cores, dropped to 60% on a single core, then restarted after roughly an hour. I didn’t check for any crashes.
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Relo_273
08-17-2021, 08:58 PM #13

HCI Mem Test completed around 70-80% with 11 cores, dropped to 60% on a single core, then restarted after roughly an hour. I didn’t check for any crashes.

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pinoybusta12
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08-18-2021, 12:38 AM
#14
Send back the CPU and maybe the motherboard too.
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pinoybusta12
08-18-2021, 12:38 AM #14

Send back the CPU and maybe the motherboard too.

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Creeperdude613
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08-28-2021, 12:38 AM
#15
Yeah, that's the approach. I've never encountered anything like this before and am testing everything. Since I'm heading away for a month next week, waiting to send any returns isn't practical. Today I tested Prime95 for five hours using default settings and it ran smoothly without any errors or BSODs. According to HWinfo64, the temperatures were 55°C low, 83°C high, and an average of 65°C. So the temperature readings seem normal. It's just something really unusual.
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Creeperdude613
08-28-2021, 12:38 AM #15

Yeah, that's the approach. I've never encountered anything like this before and am testing everything. Since I'm heading away for a month next week, waiting to send any returns isn't practical. Today I tested Prime95 for five hours using default settings and it ran smoothly without any errors or BSODs. According to HWinfo64, the temperatures were 55°C low, 83°C high, and an average of 65°C. So the temperature readings seem normal. It's just something really unusual.

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YoungAriesArt
Member
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08-28-2021, 08:57 AM
#16
The BSODs seem unpredictable, isn't it? How could a system endure such a long session with these challenges?
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YoungAriesArt
08-28-2021, 08:57 AM #16

The BSODs seem unpredictable, isn't it? How could a system endure such a long session with these challenges?

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RG48
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09-16-2021, 10:28 PM
#17
Yeah, they were mostly random except for gaming. The whole setup was pretty unstable when trying to play games. I was surprised it lasted that long on Prime95 too. But then again, it seemed to pass OCCT and AIDA64 as well. For the last 7-8 days I've been testing various memory kits in an attempt to get it through the memory test. I haven't really used the system much lately. Maybe this weekend I'll try loading some games and/or reformatting Windows to see if that helps. But honestly, nothing seems to have changed much and I don't think it's going to fix itself automatically LOL
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RG48
09-16-2021, 10:28 PM #17

Yeah, they were mostly random except for gaming. The whole setup was pretty unstable when trying to play games. I was surprised it lasted that long on Prime95 too. But then again, it seemed to pass OCCT and AIDA64 as well. For the last 7-8 days I've been testing various memory kits in an attempt to get it through the memory test. I haven't really used the system much lately. Maybe this weekend I'll try loading some games and/or reformatting Windows to see if that helps. But honestly, nothing seems to have changed much and I don't think it's going to fix itself automatically LOL

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jtallieu
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09-25-2021, 01:30 AM
#18
Hi, if you run the system using default settings, will it still cause problems? I’ve reset the CMOS and tried it at those settings—including motherboard RAM, GPU, and other components—without running all stress tests. Over the years, I’ve built performance-focused rigs for productivity and gaming, tweaking settings like Auto Overclocking. Many here might call me old-school, but my methods have consistently worked well with minimal issues. I’m hoping you can identify the problem affecting your PC and get it back to its best performance. Cheers.
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jtallieu
09-25-2021, 01:30 AM #18

Hi, if you run the system using default settings, will it still cause problems? I’ve reset the CMOS and tried it at those settings—including motherboard RAM, GPU, and other components—without running all stress tests. Over the years, I’ve built performance-focused rigs for productivity and gaming, tweaking settings like Auto Overclocking. Many here might call me old-school, but my methods have consistently worked well with minimal issues. I’m hoping you can identify the problem affecting your PC and get it back to its best performance. Cheers.

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xxPaulTudorxx
Junior Member
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09-25-2021, 09:41 AM
#19
This was among the initial ideas that crossed my mind too. Good CMOS, using default configurations and testing. Seems like no luck.
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xxPaulTudorxx
09-25-2021, 09:41 AM #19

This was among the initial ideas that crossed my mind too. Good CMOS, using default configurations and testing. Seems like no luck.

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DianaPolis
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09-25-2021, 05:08 PM
#20
I've been working carefully to identify the problem. In the past, I've dealt with BSOD issues and usually they stem from software problems such as BIOS configurations, driver conflicts, or needing DDU for the GPU. I'm generally skilled at locating software-related faults. However, this system presents a wide range of errors including Hypervisor issues, IRQL not less than or equal, Kernel, Ntoskrnl, System service exceptions, Page fault in nonpaged area, Critical process terminated, and Watchdog violation.

So far, I've restarted Windows 11 Home and Pro without any network activity. I updated the BIOS, changed the chipset, and installed only the drivers I needed before allowing Windows to apply updates. The BIOS defaults are set and CMOS is cleared. I've tested the memory at JEDEC, EXPO1, and EXPO2. I remounted the cooler twice, adjusting the mounting screws slightly after the second time to rule out pressure issues. I've used 1 and 2 EPS cables despite having a 65W processor. I even disassembled the entire system and rebuilt it. Recently, I removed the GPU and switched to using the integrated graphics to test for potential causes. Each time, the system appears stable on the surface but eventually triggers BSODs.

It's curious that a demanding game would crash while a less demanding one runs smoothly. A few days after reformatting Windows, it played the tough game while still crashing during the easier one. That's why I'm conducting stress tests. A fresh build with all original components and stock BIOS, without a GPU, shouldn't be this unstable. It doesn't make sense that it passes Prime95, OCCT, AIDA, and MemTest86 for long periods using two different RAM kits with dual or single DIMMs, yet it still generates errors or BSODs on TestMem5 or HCI Memtest for those same kits. I suppose it could still be a software issue, but I'm still trying to figure it out. I'll keep experimenting until I return next month. If I can't resolve it then, I'll consider ordering parts for replacement. At this point, I'm stuck and open to suggestions.
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DianaPolis
09-25-2021, 05:08 PM #20

I've been working carefully to identify the problem. In the past, I've dealt with BSOD issues and usually they stem from software problems such as BIOS configurations, driver conflicts, or needing DDU for the GPU. I'm generally skilled at locating software-related faults. However, this system presents a wide range of errors including Hypervisor issues, IRQL not less than or equal, Kernel, Ntoskrnl, System service exceptions, Page fault in nonpaged area, Critical process terminated, and Watchdog violation.

So far, I've restarted Windows 11 Home and Pro without any network activity. I updated the BIOS, changed the chipset, and installed only the drivers I needed before allowing Windows to apply updates. The BIOS defaults are set and CMOS is cleared. I've tested the memory at JEDEC, EXPO1, and EXPO2. I remounted the cooler twice, adjusting the mounting screws slightly after the second time to rule out pressure issues. I've used 1 and 2 EPS cables despite having a 65W processor. I even disassembled the entire system and rebuilt it. Recently, I removed the GPU and switched to using the integrated graphics to test for potential causes. Each time, the system appears stable on the surface but eventually triggers BSODs.

It's curious that a demanding game would crash while a less demanding one runs smoothly. A few days after reformatting Windows, it played the tough game while still crashing during the easier one. That's why I'm conducting stress tests. A fresh build with all original components and stock BIOS, without a GPU, shouldn't be this unstable. It doesn't make sense that it passes Prime95, OCCT, AIDA, and MemTest86 for long periods using two different RAM kits with dual or single DIMMs, yet it still generates errors or BSODs on TestMem5 or HCI Memtest for those same kits. I suppose it could still be a software issue, but I'm still trying to figure it out. I'll keep experimenting until I return next month. If I can't resolve it then, I'll consider ordering parts for replacement. At this point, I'm stuck and open to suggestions.

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