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darkwolf644
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183
11-01-2021, 05:11 PM
#1
I've been creating my own Excel tier chart for PC parts since I think most tier lists are confusing or lacking details. I'm exploring RAM brands I discovered, especially "Patriot Viper Xtreme 5 MPOWER DDR5 RGB RAM 32GB (2X16GB) 8000MT/s CL38 1.45v UDIMM Desktop Gaming Memory Kit Compatible with Intel XMP - PVXR532G80C38KM for $125 base price." Other items also offer solid specs and pricing. I've noticed mixed feedback, but I'm looking for a reliable source from Linus Brigade. Thanks everyone!
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darkwolf644
11-01-2021, 05:11 PM #1

I've been creating my own Excel tier chart for PC parts since I think most tier lists are confusing or lacking details. I'm exploring RAM brands I discovered, especially "Patriot Viper Xtreme 5 MPOWER DDR5 RGB RAM 32GB (2X16GB) 8000MT/s CL38 1.45v UDIMM Desktop Gaming Memory Kit Compatible with Intel XMP - PVXR532G80C38KM for $125 base price." Other items also offer solid specs and pricing. I've noticed mixed feedback, but I'm looking for a reliable source from Linus Brigade. Thanks everyone!

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xKaan
Junior Member
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11-01-2021, 11:52 PM
#2
Which platform are you developing—AMD or Intel? Using PC Part Picker isn’t the right approach; sticking to tier lists is incorrect.
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xKaan
11-01-2021, 11:52 PM #2

Which platform are you developing—AMD or Intel? Using PC Part Picker isn’t the right approach; sticking to tier lists is incorrect.

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Kr0ssPissi
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183
11-03-2021, 11:23 PM
#3
I’m considering AMD and Intel options. PC Part Picker isn’t covering many items, and Versus has been helpful for comparing products.
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Kr0ssPissi
11-03-2021, 11:23 PM #3

I’m considering AMD and Intel options. PC Part Picker isn’t covering many items, and Versus has been helpful for comparing products.

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KsanNinja
Junior Member
11
11-04-2021, 12:11 AM
#4
Different systems gain advantages in various parts. Most platforms offer a range of products, including many standard and generic items like PC cases. There are no truly unique offerings such as the... generic rip-off RXT 4060 since it rarely appears due to its lack of business presence, often being a scam. Comparing sources isn't reliable—look for benchmarks instead. TechPowerUp provides useful comparisons for GPUs and CPUs, which is more valuable. Creating your own tier lists is unlikely to help you much. You won’t see significant progress without proper testing. The existing PSU recommendations from trusted brands like Cultists and Cybernetics are actually worthwhile because they undergo thorough testing, something you probably can't replicate.
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KsanNinja
11-04-2021, 12:11 AM #4

Different systems gain advantages in various parts. Most platforms offer a range of products, including many standard and generic items like PC cases. There are no truly unique offerings such as the... generic rip-off RXT 4060 since it rarely appears due to its lack of business presence, often being a scam. Comparing sources isn't reliable—look for benchmarks instead. TechPowerUp provides useful comparisons for GPUs and CPUs, which is more valuable. Creating your own tier lists is unlikely to help you much. You won’t see significant progress without proper testing. The existing PSU recommendations from trusted brands like Cultists and Cybernetics are actually worthwhile because they undergo thorough testing, something you probably can't replicate.

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MegakillerLP
Junior Member
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11-25-2021, 03:22 PM
#5
it’s important to note that ram branding isn’t usually crucial if you only have a basic understanding of the parts. I recommend getting input from someone familiar with your tier chart, as it may not accurately reflect real-world differences—like assuming there are no distinctions between tiers A and B on psu tierlists. For example, putting all low CL ranges such as 6000c32/30 into the highest tier and high CLs like 38-38-38 just below low CL rams due to mostly hynix die chances is unrealistic. Stick with 6000c36 and above, and avoid the lower tiers.
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MegakillerLP
11-25-2021, 03:22 PM #5

it’s important to note that ram branding isn’t usually crucial if you only have a basic understanding of the parts. I recommend getting input from someone familiar with your tier chart, as it may not accurately reflect real-world differences—like assuming there are no distinctions between tiers A and B on psu tierlists. For example, putting all low CL ranges such as 6000c32/30 into the highest tier and high CLs like 38-38-38 just below low CL rams due to mostly hynix die chances is unrealistic. Stick with 6000c36 and above, and avoid the lower tiers.

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Batt4
Member
55
11-25-2021, 11:32 PM
#6
The Patriot brand in my country is among the most affordable options, making it seem normal to compare it with brands like Corsair and Crucial. However, I wouldn’t rush to buy RAM quickly for an AMD processor, particularly if you have an X3D chipset.
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Batt4
11-25-2021, 11:32 PM #6

The Patriot brand in my country is among the most affordable options, making it seem normal to compare it with brands like Corsair and Crucial. However, I wouldn’t rush to buy RAM quickly for an AMD processor, particularly if you have an X3D chipset.

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ExodusMC
Member
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11-26-2021, 04:26 AM
#7
Wait versus.com? That site is quitr problematic as its just a scraper site. The scores are also just taken from quite random sources most of the time. Now why are you buying from tierlists specifically? Also 8000mhz ram is literally not achievable without a LOT of luck and finetuning on either amd or intel. Then you also have the diminishing returns where on amd anything beyond 6000mhz performs the same or even worse as it goes beyond the 1:1 clock ratio of the cpu's memory controller. 6000mhz is in perfect sync. Then you also have cas latency and lower is better but also point of diminishing returns is cl30. Even if cl38 8000mhz would work and scale proper that latency is gonna HURT performance a lot. Whats the issue with pcpartpicker for you? They are a pretty good aggregator depending on country.
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ExodusMC
11-26-2021, 04:26 AM #7

Wait versus.com? That site is quitr problematic as its just a scraper site. The scores are also just taken from quite random sources most of the time. Now why are you buying from tierlists specifically? Also 8000mhz ram is literally not achievable without a LOT of luck and finetuning on either amd or intel. Then you also have the diminishing returns where on amd anything beyond 6000mhz performs the same or even worse as it goes beyond the 1:1 clock ratio of the cpu's memory controller. 6000mhz is in perfect sync. Then you also have cas latency and lower is better but also point of diminishing returns is cl30. Even if cl38 8000mhz would work and scale proper that latency is gonna HURT performance a lot. Whats the issue with pcpartpicker for you? They are a pretty good aggregator depending on country.

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ayahnib
Member
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11-26-2021, 04:51 AM
#8
The 7000 model varies based on the motherboard and Intel's IMC quality.
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ayahnib
11-26-2021, 04:51 AM #8

The 7000 model varies based on the motherboard and Intel's IMC quality.

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BlaseGames
Member
169
11-27-2021, 02:58 PM
#9
It's basically a standard comparison platform, so any rough ranking you see is likely off. If you're new to these specs, focusing on basic knowledge will help. For example, a 8000 2:1 chip usually outpaces a 6400 1:1, but the latter is hard to get and takes time to set up. Most systems fall around 6200-6400, with 6400 being common now. The 6000 series is popular, though some might call it a bit outdated. Prices differ a lot by country—what you pay in one place may not matter much elsewhere. Stick with what fits your needs and budget.
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BlaseGames
11-27-2021, 02:58 PM #9

It's basically a standard comparison platform, so any rough ranking you see is likely off. If you're new to these specs, focusing on basic knowledge will help. For example, a 8000 2:1 chip usually outpaces a 6400 1:1, but the latter is hard to get and takes time to set up. Most systems fall around 6200-6400, with 6400 being common now. The 6000 series is popular, though some might call it a bit outdated. Prices differ a lot by country—what you pay in one place may not matter much elsewhere. Stick with what fits your needs and budget.

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Chile_PvP
Junior Member
43
12-05-2021, 08:18 AM
#10
I've noticed a few folks managing 8000MHz stable on the AM5 chip, but their timing was pretty inconsistent. Either way, the stock 6000MHz with Cl-30 is a straightforward setup—just one-to-one with the default memory controller (though you can push it up to 3200MHz depending on the board). Personally, I don’t mind your setup, but for regular users, a simple 6000MHz Cl-30 or close will work just fine without any fuss. The $125 price tag for 32GB RAM feels pretty steep right now. You could grab a standard Cl-30 6000MHz for half the cost and invest in other upgrades that really count.
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Chile_PvP
12-05-2021, 08:18 AM #10

I've noticed a few folks managing 8000MHz stable on the AM5 chip, but their timing was pretty inconsistent. Either way, the stock 6000MHz with Cl-30 is a straightforward setup—just one-to-one with the default memory controller (though you can push it up to 3200MHz depending on the board). Personally, I don’t mind your setup, but for regular users, a simple 6000MHz Cl-30 or close will work just fine without any fuss. The $125 price tag for 32GB RAM feels pretty steep right now. You could grab a standard Cl-30 6000MHz for half the cost and invest in other upgrades that really count.