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Is PC freezing during startup multiple times daily?

Is PC freezing during startup multiple times daily?

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ethandizzy
Member
169
10-05-2022, 08:06 AM
#1
Hello everyone,
In recent months I've been progressively improving my computer system. At first, everything worked perfectly. But after upgrading my AIO cooler and case, I began noticing some strange problems. Here’s a summary of the challenges and the actions I’ve taken:

Once all parts were moved into a bigger case and the new cooler was installed, I encountered a boot error: "CPU or Memory changed!!! Press F1 to enter setup or F2 something." I tried fixing it by entering setup mode, resetting the BIOS, using the CMOS reset button on my motherboard, and even replacing the CMOS battery twice. Still, the issue remains. As a result, my BIOS settings return to the default, which stops my RAM from using the XMP profile.

On the first boot of the day, the PC loads but freezes right away, making it unresponsive to mouse input, the Windows key, or even the restart button. The only solution is to force a shutdown by holding the power button. This freezing happens intermittently and lasts for several tries before the system works again.

I also tried fixing things by reinstalling Windows 11 via the "Fix problems using Windows Update" option, but nothing changed. Unfortunately, I can’t do a full OS reinstall right now because of time constraints—I’m working on a contract project and would need to install all software, which isn’t feasible at the moment.

Any advice or suggestions would be very helpful. Thanks!

My current setup:
- Windows 11
- MSI Mag Z790 Tomahawk WIFI
- 64GB Kingston FURY DDR5 6400MHz (RAM resets every time BIOS restarts)
- Corsair RM1000x PSU
- Gainward phantom RTX 4090
- Intel i9-13900KF
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ethandizzy
10-05-2022, 08:06 AM #1

Hello everyone,
In recent months I've been progressively improving my computer system. At first, everything worked perfectly. But after upgrading my AIO cooler and case, I began noticing some strange problems. Here’s a summary of the challenges and the actions I’ve taken:

Once all parts were moved into a bigger case and the new cooler was installed, I encountered a boot error: "CPU or Memory changed!!! Press F1 to enter setup or F2 something." I tried fixing it by entering setup mode, resetting the BIOS, using the CMOS reset button on my motherboard, and even replacing the CMOS battery twice. Still, the issue remains. As a result, my BIOS settings return to the default, which stops my RAM from using the XMP profile.

On the first boot of the day, the PC loads but freezes right away, making it unresponsive to mouse input, the Windows key, or even the restart button. The only solution is to force a shutdown by holding the power button. This freezing happens intermittently and lasts for several tries before the system works again.

I also tried fixing things by reinstalling Windows 11 via the "Fix problems using Windows Update" option, but nothing changed. Unfortunately, I can’t do a full OS reinstall right now because of time constraints—I’m working on a contract project and would need to install all software, which isn’t feasible at the moment.

Any advice or suggestions would be very helpful. Thanks!

My current setup:
- Windows 11
- MSI Mag Z790 Tomahawk WIFI
- 64GB Kingston FURY DDR5 6400MHz (RAM resets every time BIOS restarts)
- Corsair RM1000x PSU
- Gainward phantom RTX 4090
- Intel i9-13900KF

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TMayes136
Member
142
10-18-2022, 09:39 AM
#2
Hello everyone,
Thank you for your assistance. I believe I've managed to resolve the issue. Here's what I did:
I ran the Windows Memory Diagnostic tool, and around 50% through the test, I received a message indicating a problem with one of my memory sticks. Following this, I powered down the PC, removed all four RAM sticks, ensured they were clean, blew some air into the RAM slots, and reinserted them in a different order into my PC. Surprisingly, this time everything appears to be functioning properly. It's strange that this didn't resolve the issue during my previous attempts, as I had already performed this process three or four times.
I also noticed an anomaly with the Fury CTRL panel (which I don't typically use). It was only...
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TMayes136
10-18-2022, 09:39 AM #2

Hello everyone,
Thank you for your assistance. I believe I've managed to resolve the issue. Here's what I did:
I ran the Windows Memory Diagnostic tool, and around 50% through the test, I received a message indicating a problem with one of my memory sticks. Following this, I powered down the PC, removed all four RAM sticks, ensured they were clean, blew some air into the RAM slots, and reinserted them in a different order into my PC. Surprisingly, this time everything appears to be functioning properly. It's strange that this didn't resolve the issue during my previous attempts, as I had already performed this process three or four times.
I also noticed an anomaly with the Fury CTRL panel (which I don't typically use). It was only...

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Wai_0904
Junior Member
15
10-19-2022, 11:39 AM
#3
Welcome to the forums, newcomer!
What were your previous activities and upgrades? What case did you use before the change, and what system did you move to? It might help to ease pressure on your AIO's mount and see if that makes a difference.
2| Please also share your motherboard's BIOS version along with the PSU's make and model.
In recent months, I've been slowly improving my computer setup.
Tell me about it. Did you recycle your OS drive without reinstalling while you changed your motherboard?
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Wai_0904
10-19-2022, 11:39 AM #3

Welcome to the forums, newcomer!
What were your previous activities and upgrades? What case did you use before the change, and what system did you move to? It might help to ease pressure on your AIO's mount and see if that makes a difference.
2| Please also share your motherboard's BIOS version along with the PSU's make and model.
In recent months, I've been slowly improving my computer setup.
Tell me about it. Did you recycle your OS drive without reinstalling while you changed your motherboard?

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Quietvenom
Member
193
10-19-2022, 07:38 PM
#4
Hello Lutfij,

Your update is appreciated. Here’s a summary of what has changed:

I used to run the NZXT Kraken X73 RGB cooler, but it often got too hot, reaching up to 100°C during intense gaming or heavy tasks. I switched to the DeepCool LT720, which greatly reduced the temperatures. Now, my temps stay around 80°C while working in Unreal Engine or similar 3D software, and they drop even more during games.

I also upgraded my case from the Corsair iCUE 4000D to the Corsair iCUE 5000D.

Before your message, I hadn’t updated my BIOS recently. I’ve now updated it to version 7D91vHB today. It’s still early to see if this fixes any problems, but I’ll keep an eye on it.

About the build process:

I bought everything at once when I first started, including the CPU, power supply, motherboard, half of my RAM, AIO cooler, and an extra NVME SSD. After installing a fresh Windows copy on the SSD, I switched it as my main drive.

Later, I bought a new GPU and reinstalled its drivers. Then I added another 32GB kit (two 16GB units) of RAM, which matched what I already had. Everything worked well until now.

Finally, I got the new AIO cooler, but it didn’t fit in my old case, so I also bought the Corsair iCUE 5000D case.

After these changes, I started seeing startup messages about different CPU or memory setups, and later my PC would freeze during startup as before.
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Quietvenom
10-19-2022, 07:38 PM #4

Hello Lutfij,

Your update is appreciated. Here’s a summary of what has changed:

I used to run the NZXT Kraken X73 RGB cooler, but it often got too hot, reaching up to 100°C during intense gaming or heavy tasks. I switched to the DeepCool LT720, which greatly reduced the temperatures. Now, my temps stay around 80°C while working in Unreal Engine or similar 3D software, and they drop even more during games.

I also upgraded my case from the Corsair iCUE 4000D to the Corsair iCUE 5000D.

Before your message, I hadn’t updated my BIOS recently. I’ve now updated it to version 7D91vHB today. It’s still early to see if this fixes any problems, but I’ll keep an eye on it.

About the build process:

I bought everything at once when I first started, including the CPU, power supply, motherboard, half of my RAM, AIO cooler, and an extra NVME SSD. After installing a fresh Windows copy on the SSD, I switched it as my main drive.

Later, I bought a new GPU and reinstalled its drivers. Then I added another 32GB kit (two 16GB units) of RAM, which matched what I already had. Everything worked well until now.

Finally, I got the new AIO cooler, but it didn’t fit in my old case, so I also bought the Corsair iCUE 5000D case.

After these changes, I started seeing startup messages about different CPU or memory setups, and later my PC would freeze during startup as before.

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SonyVegas_
Member
179
10-19-2022, 08:19 PM
#5
When you run out of options, try using only one set of RAM.
If that doesn't work, test with the alternative set of RAM.
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SonyVegas_
10-19-2022, 08:19 PM #5

When you run out of options, try using only one set of RAM.
If that doesn't work, test with the alternative set of RAM.

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InayaK16
Junior Member
10
10-20-2022, 03:51 AM
#6
Hey Bob,
I can give that a shot tomorrow. But as I mentioned, it worked well even with the extra RAM added. It began causing issues once everything was moved to a new case and a new AIO was installed.
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InayaK16
10-20-2022, 03:51 AM #6

Hey Bob,
I can give that a shot tomorrow. But as I mentioned, it worked well even with the extra RAM added. It began causing issues once everything was moved to a new case and a new AIO was installed.

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bradymg
Junior Member
4
10-26-2022, 07:22 AM
#7
So as I wrote, I updated BIOS in the hope it would resolve the "CPU and Memory CHANGED" startup message, but unfortunately it still appears. My computer also froze again. By "relieve some pressure on your AIOs mount" you mean I should try loosening the screws slightly on my pump mount?
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bradymg
10-26-2022, 07:22 AM #7

So as I wrote, I updated BIOS in the hope it would resolve the "CPU and Memory CHANGED" startup message, but unfortunately it still appears. My computer also froze again. By "relieve some pressure on your AIOs mount" you mean I should try loosening the screws slightly on my pump mount?

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Knightbladez21
Junior Member
8
10-26-2022, 10:24 AM
#8
Hello everyone,
Thank you for your assistance. I believe I've managed to resolve the issue. Here's what I did:
I ran the Windows Memory Diagnostic tool, and around 50% through the test, I received a message indicating a problem with one of my memory sticks. Following this, I powered down the PC, removed all four RAM sticks, ensured they were clean, blew some air into the RAM slots, and reinserted them in a different order into my PC. Surprisingly, this time everything appears to be functioning properly. It's strange that this didn't resolve the issue during my previous attempts, as I had already performed this process three or four times.
I also noticed an anomaly with the Fury CTRL panel (which I don't typically use). It was only detecting two of my RAM sticks, and any changes to lighting settings were only applied to those two sticks (I usually keep the RGB turned off, so I hadn't noticed this earlier).
Now, all four RAM sticks are visible in the FURY application, and I haven't experienced any freezing on startup or received the message during boot up yet. I'll continue to monitor the system closely over the next few days, but it seems to be the most promising outcome so far.
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Knightbladez21
10-26-2022, 10:24 AM #8

Hello everyone,
Thank you for your assistance. I believe I've managed to resolve the issue. Here's what I did:
I ran the Windows Memory Diagnostic tool, and around 50% through the test, I received a message indicating a problem with one of my memory sticks. Following this, I powered down the PC, removed all four RAM sticks, ensured they were clean, blew some air into the RAM slots, and reinserted them in a different order into my PC. Surprisingly, this time everything appears to be functioning properly. It's strange that this didn't resolve the issue during my previous attempts, as I had already performed this process three or four times.
I also noticed an anomaly with the Fury CTRL panel (which I don't typically use). It was only detecting two of my RAM sticks, and any changes to lighting settings were only applied to those two sticks (I usually keep the RGB turned off, so I hadn't noticed this earlier).
Now, all four RAM sticks are visible in the FURY application, and I haven't experienced any freezing on startup or received the message during boot up yet. I'll continue to monitor the system closely over the next few days, but it seems to be the most promising outcome so far.