Is My Oc Aligned Properly! [Ram Speed]
Is My Oc Aligned Properly! [Ram Speed]
hi all ,
first here is my config :
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.83 GHz
Cpu Cooler : Cooler master Hyper 212x .
-ASUS P5Q3 DELUXE Rev 1.xx ( P5Q3 Deluxe/WiFi-AP )
-Chipset : -Intel P45/P43/G45/G43
-Ram : 2x2 Go (4go) Corsair xms3 platinum serie , 1333mhz cl9 ( 9-9-9-24 )
+ 2 new sticks (2x2gb) they have exactly the same brand, Model , CL , frequency and timing ( cl9 , 1333mhz , 9-9-9-24 ) etc.. [ part of the probleme ]
graphics : Gigabyte Gtx 750ti
Psu : Enermax Liberty 500w fully modular .
And Guy's It's A long Post so Please, Please bear with me while I explain this . because i could really use your Help !! .
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ok guy's , long story short , upgraded new cooler , new Gpu from 4870 to 750ti and added 2 stick of ram (2x2gb) i went from 4gb to 8gb so it's a total of 4stick installed ( Mobo don't recognize the 4Gb sticks ).
anway before we talk about the overclocking i just want to point out the ram stick's probleme . so after i added the 2 of them ( All pictures will be bellow ) the computer didn't want to post not even to the bios , so i tested one of them on another computer and it worked just fine then i added another stick from the old 2 stick's ont that another same computer but an error pompt up i don't remember exactly but it was something about frequency or incompatibility so i guessed that the new ram's are maybe not compatible with the old ones in timing etc.. even though i checked the sticker on them and it say's 1333mhz 9-9-9-24 just like the old ones i have . so after trying few things i removed the new rams and left the old ones , went to the the bios set the Dram frequency to 1066mhz , and it worked so the Dram frequency now in cpu-z is 534mhz instead of 666mhz so i guess in down-clocked them .
i just wanted to know , is there any solution that i can do to make them run at their full speed , maybe by changing the timing but i have no idea how to do that so a little help will be appreciated ^^ , i'll post pictures of my mobo bios down in this post so you can have an idea .
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ok now for the overclocking thing ,
i did manage to get the cpu from stock 2.8ghz to 3.4ghz with allmost same temps as on stock frequency which is nice ,, so here's what i did :
- Cpu Ratio : Auto [ because it can't go over 8.5 so that will be the same as Auto .
-Fsb frequency : 400
-Pcie Frequency : 100
-Dram frequency : 801mhz [ which is the first option from the available List ]
-Cpu Voltage : 1.2 [ that appear 1.184 On Cpu-z ]
-Dram voltage : 1.5 [ just like it is mentionned on the Sticker xD ]
Then :
-Cpu ratio setting : Auto
C1E Support : Disabled
-Max Cpuid Value Limit : Disabled
-Intel ® Virtualisation Tech : Enabled
-Cpu TM Function : Disabled
-Excute Disable Bit : Enable
-Intel ® Speedstep ™ Tech : Enabled
Ps : Am i missing something or is there any other settings i can change etc.. ?
saved it and reboot , pc run's fine , i didn't run some stress tests or something but i did play Gta v for a brief Moment, temps were fine and cpu usage too etc.. but what bugged me is that now ( as the picture show bellow ) the dram frequency in cpu-z is only 400mhz , but has low latency .. ( look the picture ) does that mean that the ram's are far less more powerful than they are originally because they are down in frequency ? or does the low timing compared to the old one compensate for that [ fSB dRAM : 1:1 ] .
am really confused guy's am not that much of a knower let's say in these things , so i try to do my best , resarching learning etc.. before posting for help on a forum because i only do it as a last resort .
so i hope that i made this Post very clear and gave all the details possible so that you guy's can understand The probleme Am dealing with and help me find a solution .
Thank you
Picutres :
-Ram stick's old ones and new ones :
-Dram Timing when everyting On Auto ( +set to manual but did not change anything Just so you guy's can see the sub-menu's and what are the option available on this mobo )
-Overclocking Profile :
-Comparison between Stock Settings And Overcloking Settings Cpu-z :
It's always uncertain when working with OC and voltages. However, it has been too long since I was certain about the voltage I used on my Core 2 days with E6600, Q6600, etc. 1.3v seems acceptable, as I previously used 1.35 for my 45nm Core i7 920 and didn't encounter any issues. The chip is still running today, although it's back to its original specifications after being sold. Temperatures appear normal too. I believe your setup is quite good. There might be a few minor BIOS adjustments, but the improvement from your current state seems limited. For OC testing, I recommend using Prime95, Memtest, IBT, some Sisoft Sandra benchmarks, 3dmark, and casual usage to confirm.
You might attempt to fine-tune using the XMP profiles to reach their maximum performance, which should theoretically adjust the module settings automatically. Still, you have the option to enter them manually. Additionally, I'm not entirely familiar with the past, but your system relies on the FSB to determine its clock speed. The FSB x Multiplier dictates the CPU's speed, and this same FSB is also responsible for RAM speed. There are FSB/DRAM dividers that you encounter when modifying RAM speeds in the BIOS. Nevertheless, it's worth noting that because you're adjusting your FSB during OC, the DRAM frequency may not align precisely with what you intended. For instance, in your recent photo, you observe a DRAM frequency of around 1066 MHz, which corresponds to a 5/8 ratio for DDR speed. This also utilizes the standard 333 MHz setting. If you simply increase your FSB to match the OC settings, your RAM might attempt to operate at 1280MHz. When you configure your CPU through OC, you may need to check BIOS options before saving or exiting to see an estimate of the actual speed it will run at. This can provide a preview of what performance you're aiming for. Regarding higher speeds versus lower latency versus lower latency versus higher speed, this remains an ongoing discussion. It often comes down to benchmarks and applications that favor one characteristic over the other, with real-world results varying accordingly.
Also, even though you tried to synchronize both RAM kits in terms of speed, voltages, and timing, this isn't always successful. Occasionally, different kits may not function well together on certain boards. I've experienced this issue myself on a 680i SLI motherboard years ago.
After reviewing your response, it seems you're wondering if there are suitable benchmarking tools to evaluate CPU stability and determining the optimal running time for them. You also asked about the safety of operating at 1.3V for a 45mm Q9550 chip, noting that your idle temperatures have risen from 32-34°C to 36-37°C. Additionally, you shared some screenshots from overclocking sessions with Prime95 and GTA V, mentioning concerns about voltage limits and lifespan. You're seeking guidance on whether tweaking BIOS settings could help stability and what temperature thresholds are safe for the device.
It's always uncertain when working with OC and voltages. However, it has been too long since I was certain about the voltage I used for my Core 2 days with E6600, Q6600, etc. 1.3v seems acceptable, as I previously used 1.35 for my 45nm Core i7 920 and didn't encounter any issues. The chip is still running today, although it's back to its original specifications after being sold. Temperatures appear normal too. I believe your setup is quite good. There might be a few minor BIOS adjustments, but the improvement from your current state seems limited. For OC testing, I recommend using Prime95, Memtest, IBT, some SISOft Sandra benches, 3dmark, and casual use to confirm.
Sure, thank you for your reply. Perhaps I'll lower the voltage slightly and check if it remains stable below 1.3V. As for your question, now that I feel confident about stability, I know I'm getting a bit fixated on this. But when playing games like GTA 5, League of Legends, MGS5, or Firewatch, the temperatures rarely go above 54°C. Is that a suitable temperature for gaming?