Is it possible to use a Ryzen 3 2200g with the original cooler?
Is it possible to use a Ryzen 3 2200g with the original cooler?
Hey everyone. My latest setup just came in.
I received a B450 Bazooka Plus with a Ryzen 3 2200G.
I also have three stock fans from Tecware for my case.
The room temperature is about 35°C in the morning with 53% humidity. Unfortunately, I don’t have air conditioning, so it’s really hot.
Can I overclock my Ryzen 3 using the stock cooler? Maybe around 3.7 to 3.9?
Or should I consider buying a used Deepcool 300r instead? It’s still in good shape—only been used for five months and costs about $9. Should I go for it or stick with the stock cooler?
I also have a dedicated GPU (RX570), so I won’t be overclocking the Vega graphics.
And just a note, should I also overclock the RAM?
In my view, neither of those coolers covers the needs for overclocking. If you aim to boost performance, delay purchasing a decent cooler until you can afford one. The lowest spec cooler suitable for overclocking would be around the Gammaxx 400 or Hyper 212 EVO models, preferably the Deepcool Gammaxx 400 due to its superior performance and improved mounting design. These are entry-level 120mm units but perform well with a 2200g processor, which has a relatively low TDP.
Regarding memory, if you plan to enable XMP profiles in BIOS and attempt overclocking beyond the module’s specifications, it’s not advisable. You likely lack the expertise and may not gain any meaningful benefit. Stick to setting the XMP profile and avoid pushing beyond what the module supports. It’s more important to ensure the memory is installed in the A2 and B2 slots—second and fourth from the CPU socket—and then apply the XMP profile for optimal results.
Sure, I understand. I’ll only lightly overclock the CPU and skip the APU altogether 😅
For memory, I’ll go with what’s listed on my Ballistix sport—2666 should be fine. Thanks!
Hmmm the gammax 400 is around 25$... I'm planning to wait on a sale before I buy it. But yea, thank you so much sir! Good thing, I almost bought the 300r because I thought it was better than the stock and was hoping to can handle OCing the CPU 😅
Honestly, adding overclock settings to Ryzen usually doesn't pay off much. Most chips only maintain stability around 500-700mhz. Of course, some people manage higher speeds, but it really depends on the specific model. If you're spending extra money to boost the chip, it might be smarter to let the turbo handle things instead. But if you decide to go overclock, consider getting a cooler worth at least 30 dollars—it helps with heat and performance. Also, check your power supply; it should be able to support the changes. If you skip overclocking, upgrading your cooler is still a good idea for long-term gains. For example, my Hyper T2 cooler has a dual copper loop and costs around 17 dollars, but only if you're not pushing it to overclock. Even with a stable A8 5600k at 4.1mhz, it's not the best setup.
With the 2200g 2400g lineup, you're managing a delicate balance. This setup pairs a Zen (Not Zen+) CPU with Vega graphics cards. The power limits and performance requirements mean that as demands rise on both the CPU and the integrated GPU, both sides tend to slow down. Increasing the GPU speed or voltage can push your CPU into its limits, causing it to underperform.
Many have noted earlier that the 2200G and 2400G models gain more from fast RAM. Performance jumps noticeably when using memory speeds up to around 2900.
A Hyper 212 remains a solid choice. It's popular with those seeking modest overclocking. You often find them for around $20 to $25. In my experience, it has reliably kept my Intel i7-3770K cool for years, performing just as well as a standard 120mm AIO liquid cooler. At the default 1.25 volts, I maintained temperatures below 70°C and sustained 4.4GHz across all cores. That's quite impressive.
He possesses a subtle graphics card, making the notion that Vega graphics play any role unlikely. Still, it's accurate that the overclocking potential, in theory, isn't impressive when measured against the single core boost frequency. Nonetheless, the overall boost frequency across all cores is typically much lower than the single core, so even an OC that doesn’t reach that level but enables all cores to hit that speed will still be beneficial. A real overclock, whether it reaches 100mhz or 500mhz, that applies to every core, offers at least some value—or at the very least, a worthwhile upgrade in cooling solutions, which most people should consider for comfort and performance reasons.
I mean yes, any OC is better than none. My concern is that he already looks like he's on a tight budget, so it doesn't seem like the extra money spent on an OC is worth much just to add a few extra frames (at most five). You're right though—regardless, he should be searching for a better cooler.
Taking on additional frames is seldom the advantage we seek, since typically higher FPS isn't the main concern—though it can be. More often, the real issue lies in avoiding drops in FPS due to weaker overall core boost or thermal problems. If boosting all core frequency and performance can help lessen any minimum FPS concerns, it's definitely worth trying. Gains aren't always enough to push you to a higher level, but improving consistency in your current performance can still offer significant benefits.