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Is Intel/XMP-optimized RAM suitable for an AMD system and how should you select a suitable set?

Is Intel/XMP-optimized RAM suitable for an AMD system and how should you select a suitable set?

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veloCEKNiVes
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05-01-2023, 08:11 PM
#1
I have a 9950X3D and a RTX 5080, and I'm assembling a system intended for gaming and video editing. I'm just starting out, and while I've put in a lot of time researching, experience still matters—so I reached out to you for some guidance on RAM choices to help me make a better decision. Thanks ahead of time.
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veloCEKNiVes
05-01-2023, 08:11 PM #1

I have a 9950X3D and a RTX 5080, and I'm assembling a system intended for gaming and video editing. I'm just starting out, and while I've put in a lot of time researching, experience still matters—so I reached out to you for some guidance on RAM choices to help me make a better decision. Thanks ahead of time.

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Mickxy
Junior Member
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05-09-2023, 05:05 AM
#2
Welcome to the forums, newcomer!
When buying RAM for your AMD AM5 platform, start by checking for AMD's E.X.P.O branding. Next, verify the frequency/data rate—DDR5-6000MHz or DDR5-6000MT/s works best. Ensure the latency/timing meets CL30 standards and consider a 2x kit setup.
The RAM kit you’re considering is listed here:
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/mem...ry...-techspecs
It’s designed for Intel systems, but if you have the latest BIOS on your motherboard, you should avoid stability problems.
Which motherboard did you choose?
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Mickxy
05-09-2023, 05:05 AM #2

Welcome to the forums, newcomer!
When buying RAM for your AMD AM5 platform, start by checking for AMD's E.X.P.O branding. Next, verify the frequency/data rate—DDR5-6000MHz or DDR5-6000MT/s works best. Ensure the latency/timing meets CL30 standards and consider a 2x kit setup.
The RAM kit you’re considering is listed here:
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/mem...ry...-techspecs
It’s designed for Intel systems, but if you have the latest BIOS on your motherboard, you should avoid stability problems.
Which motherboard did you choose?

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louytekj
Member
144
05-09-2023, 05:24 AM
#3
As long as it's in QVL it doesn't matter whether XMP or EXPO is used, BIOS can read and set both. XMP and Expo are concise sets of instructions for BIOS, and even those can be modified by BIOS and are frequently adjusted.
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louytekj
05-09-2023, 05:24 AM #3

As long as it's in QVL it doesn't matter whether XMP or EXPO is used, BIOS can read and set both. XMP and Expo are concise sets of instructions for BIOS, and even those can be modified by BIOS and are frequently adjusted.

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bassdropbanana
Junior Member
45
05-10-2023, 06:50 AM
#4
Ryzen requires compatible RAM. Purchase only memory that matches your CPU/MBA setup. Check the motherboard RAM QVL list or use the vendor app to confirm support. Other options might function, but you’ll need to troubleshoot separately. The RAM includes built-in speed, timing, and voltage settings that ensure it operates at its advertised performance. These are transferred to the motherboard’s BIOS via XMP for Intel or AMD’s equivalent Expo.
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bassdropbanana
05-10-2023, 06:50 AM #4

Ryzen requires compatible RAM. Purchase only memory that matches your CPU/MBA setup. Check the motherboard RAM QVL list or use the vendor app to confirm support. Other options might function, but you’ll need to troubleshoot separately. The RAM includes built-in speed, timing, and voltage settings that ensure it operates at its advertised performance. These are transferred to the motherboard’s BIOS via XMP for Intel or AMD’s equivalent Expo.

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Papyrule
Senior Member
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05-10-2023, 10:56 AM
#5
I strongly suggest confirming the RAM is in the QVL. I purchased Intel RAM for my 7700x setup, but it was shown under the 9000 and 8000 series for the board, not the 7000 series. The RAM functions properly during booting, though occasionally it fails to load when rebooting. In the BIOS, if it’s set to XMP1 I switch it to XMP2, save, and restart without problems. It feels like a gamble—whether the system boots or not, I just adjust the XMP profile again.
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Papyrule
05-10-2023, 10:56 AM #5

I strongly suggest confirming the RAM is in the QVL. I purchased Intel RAM for my 7700x setup, but it was shown under the 9000 and 8000 series for the board, not the 7000 series. The RAM functions properly during booting, though occasionally it fails to load when rebooting. In the BIOS, if it’s set to XMP1 I switch it to XMP2, save, and restart without problems. It feels like a gamble—whether the system boots or not, I just adjust the XMP profile again.

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Gelleos_Gods
Member
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05-23-2023, 05:12 AM
#6
Ironically my RAM isn’t stable with EXPO but works well with XMP.
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Gelleos_Gods
05-23-2023, 05:12 AM #6

Ironically my RAM isn’t stable with EXPO but works well with XMP.

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XxAJHxX
Junior Member
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05-24-2023, 02:35 AM
#7
Thank you for your feedback. I reviewed the information about the Aorus X870E Elite and the QVL listings. The discussion highlights that 6000 MT/s with CL30 is considered optimal for AMD builds, mainly due to performance benefits. Regarding your concern about CL26 versus CL30, there isn't a significant difference in overall performance between the two when supported on the same motherboard and kit. The main factor remains the higher latency of CL26, which may slightly impact real-world results. If you decide to go with 6000/CL30, it should still deliver strong performance compared to 6000/CL26, especially if your budget allows. Your situation with the Corsair Vengeance and Trident kits is also sensible—considering price and availability. Let me know if you'd like more details on any aspect.
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XxAJHxX
05-24-2023, 02:35 AM #7

Thank you for your feedback. I reviewed the information about the Aorus X870E Elite and the QVL listings. The discussion highlights that 6000 MT/s with CL30 is considered optimal for AMD builds, mainly due to performance benefits. Regarding your concern about CL26 versus CL30, there isn't a significant difference in overall performance between the two when supported on the same motherboard and kit. The main factor remains the higher latency of CL26, which may slightly impact real-world results. If you decide to go with 6000/CL30, it should still deliver strong performance compared to 6000/CL26, especially if your budget allows. Your situation with the Corsair Vengeance and Trident kits is also sensible—considering price and availability. Let me know if you'd like more details on any aspect.

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Jeffreytjuhh
Member
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05-24-2023, 09:40 AM
#8
The 6000/CL30 kit was ideal only when balancing performance and cost. As it is the most common and widely made, 6000/CL26 will likely surpass Cl30, though the difference is minimal and may not justify the price gap. Frequency changes are usually noticeable only in benchmarks by a few hundred MHz. Given these fluctuating prices, it's wise to use what you have now. If you can't afford the cheapest options, look elsewhere. RAM has always contributed just a small percentage to overall system performance. On average, DDR5 offers double the speed of DDR4, but switching platforms for this gain hasn't been worthwhile.
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Jeffreytjuhh
05-24-2023, 09:40 AM #8

The 6000/CL30 kit was ideal only when balancing performance and cost. As it is the most common and widely made, 6000/CL26 will likely surpass Cl30, though the difference is minimal and may not justify the price gap. Frequency changes are usually noticeable only in benchmarks by a few hundred MHz. Given these fluctuating prices, it's wise to use what you have now. If you can't afford the cheapest options, look elsewhere. RAM has always contributed just a small percentage to overall system performance. On average, DDR5 offers double the speed of DDR4, but switching platforms for this gain hasn't been worthwhile.

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Darphy
Junior Member
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05-26-2023, 04:04 AM
#9
Higher memory speeds are beneficial but not entirely precise. Make sure your CPU won’t encounter problems when the motherboard operates at excessive speeds. Every motherboard has a limit. My motherboard supports 7800 on one stick, though it claims up to 8000 which could risk damaging the memory controller. Running 7000 on one stick is the manufacturer’s suggestion, but the internal BIOS can go as high as 10,000. I wouldn’t exceed the two-stick medium unless you push it beyond that. For a 2-stick setup, aim for a CL count of at least 32, 34, or 36. It’s measured in nanoseconds. Many new PC builders aren’t entirely accurate when discussing CL counts. The CL count depends on how quickly the system accesses files versus the CPU’s speed. It’s a delicate balance. Computers can be quite tricky to understand. There’s no perfect machine or system—every one has some bugs, glitches, or defects. Only the builder knows what’s wrong. I don’t suggest searching for problems unless you’re certain. Instead, enjoy using it and playing as long as it performs well for 4K or high FPS tasks, including modding. Streaming apps can handle 32 gigabytes or more, but 32 is fine. 64 is acceptable too, though 32 is perfectly adequate. I’d wait a bit before buying expensive memory unless you’re sure it will drop in price. Be cautious with overclocking and ensure the memory type matches your motherboard’s recommendations.
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Darphy
05-26-2023, 04:04 AM #9

Higher memory speeds are beneficial but not entirely precise. Make sure your CPU won’t encounter problems when the motherboard operates at excessive speeds. Every motherboard has a limit. My motherboard supports 7800 on one stick, though it claims up to 8000 which could risk damaging the memory controller. Running 7000 on one stick is the manufacturer’s suggestion, but the internal BIOS can go as high as 10,000. I wouldn’t exceed the two-stick medium unless you push it beyond that. For a 2-stick setup, aim for a CL count of at least 32, 34, or 36. It’s measured in nanoseconds. Many new PC builders aren’t entirely accurate when discussing CL counts. The CL count depends on how quickly the system accesses files versus the CPU’s speed. It’s a delicate balance. Computers can be quite tricky to understand. There’s no perfect machine or system—every one has some bugs, glitches, or defects. Only the builder knows what’s wrong. I don’t suggest searching for problems unless you’re certain. Instead, enjoy using it and playing as long as it performs well for 4K or high FPS tasks, including modding. Streaming apps can handle 32 gigabytes or more, but 32 is fine. 64 is acceptable too, though 32 is perfectly adequate. I’d wait a bit before buying expensive memory unless you’re sure it will drop in price. Be cautious with overclocking and ensure the memory type matches your motherboard’s recommendations.

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CanadianJediJr
Junior Member
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05-27-2023, 05:33 PM
#10
Y'all are great. Thanks for these replies. I don't want to keep giving you blocks of text to reply to , so let me try to make this the last one.
🙂
So then, value is the only reason that anyone would buy a lower clock speed or higher CAS latency? There is no situation, then, in which, for example, a 6000/CL30 kit would outperform a 6000/CL26 kit based on the former being in better "ratio" or proportion with the "fabric" of the CPU? I only ask this because, well, let me quote you what I read on another thread:
(From X_SkillCraft20_X on Reddit, in reference to a poster having issues with a 6600/CL32kit)
I've already purchased both these kits, and will have to return one of them. Based on the above, my instincts have been to return the 6600/CL32 and keep the 6000/CL26. Less bandwidth, but also less latency -- I lean toward prioritizing the latter, though I understand the difference is fairly negligible in both cases . More importantly, though, if there are any compatibility issues beyond the support implied by the kit's listing on the mobo's QVL (issues such as the poster above describes), it sounds like the 6000 MT/s kit will be in better agreement with the 9950X3D than the 6600 MT/s kit (though, of course, the 9950X3D is not a 7000 series).
I'm just putting my thinking out there so that anyone can shoot it down if they see any obvious flaws with it. If this G.Skill 64GB dual-channel 6000 MT/s CL26 is a good kit, then that's what I'll go with.
Please let me know if anyone knows of any reasons why this might not be the case, beyond the obvious issue of the price tag. You guys are great. Thank you again.
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CanadianJediJr
05-27-2023, 05:33 PM #10

Y'all are great. Thanks for these replies. I don't want to keep giving you blocks of text to reply to , so let me try to make this the last one.
🙂
So then, value is the only reason that anyone would buy a lower clock speed or higher CAS latency? There is no situation, then, in which, for example, a 6000/CL30 kit would outperform a 6000/CL26 kit based on the former being in better "ratio" or proportion with the "fabric" of the CPU? I only ask this because, well, let me quote you what I read on another thread:
(From X_SkillCraft20_X on Reddit, in reference to a poster having issues with a 6600/CL32kit)
I've already purchased both these kits, and will have to return one of them. Based on the above, my instincts have been to return the 6600/CL32 and keep the 6000/CL26. Less bandwidth, but also less latency -- I lean toward prioritizing the latter, though I understand the difference is fairly negligible in both cases . More importantly, though, if there are any compatibility issues beyond the support implied by the kit's listing on the mobo's QVL (issues such as the poster above describes), it sounds like the 6000 MT/s kit will be in better agreement with the 9950X3D than the 6600 MT/s kit (though, of course, the 9950X3D is not a 7000 series).
I'm just putting my thinking out there so that anyone can shoot it down if they see any obvious flaws with it. If this G.Skill 64GB dual-channel 6000 MT/s CL26 is a good kit, then that's what I'll go with.
Please let me know if anyone knows of any reasons why this might not be the case, beyond the obvious issue of the price tag. You guys are great. Thank you again.

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