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semisthebest
Junior Member
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05-12-2023, 08:10 PM
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Intel 13th and 14th Gen chips are widely on sale, but their long-term reliability isn't guaranteed. Consider Intel 12th Gen if it's still in stock, or explore Core Ultra options for better performance and future-proofing.
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semisthebest
05-12-2023, 08:10 PM #1

Intel 13th and 14th Gen chips are widely on sale, but their long-term reliability isn't guaranteed. Consider Intel 12th Gen if it's still in stock, or explore Core Ultra options for better performance and future-proofing.

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Rebekaa
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05-13-2023, 05:26 PM
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With the most recent BIOS and one of Intel’s profiles installed, you might be protected. It could reveal fresh degradation cases or not. Intel may also issue new microcodes to handle the problem, or they might not. These microcode updates are essentially patches, not permanent solutions. Which processor are you checking? The i3 and non-K i5 models from the 13th and 14th generations aren’t impacted by these issues. Consider getting one of those or a high-end 12th-gen chip. There’s also the upcoming Bartlett Lake CPU for the 1700 socket, likely prompting resellers to remove their Raptor Lake stock.
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Rebekaa
05-13-2023, 05:26 PM #2

With the most recent BIOS and one of Intel’s profiles installed, you might be protected. It could reveal fresh degradation cases or not. Intel may also issue new microcodes to handle the problem, or they might not. These microcode updates are essentially patches, not permanent solutions. Which processor are you checking? The i3 and non-K i5 models from the 13th and 14th generations aren’t impacted by these issues. Consider getting one of those or a high-end 12th-gen chip. There’s also the upcoming Bartlett Lake CPU for the 1700 socket, likely prompting resellers to remove their Raptor Lake stock.

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DanoruMC
Junior Member
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05-13-2023, 09:30 PM
#3
Other affordable boards with DDR5 and PCIe 5 are hard to locate.
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DanoruMC
05-13-2023, 09:30 PM #3

Other affordable boards with DDR5 and PCIe 5 are hard to locate.

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alex_oo3
Member
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05-14-2023, 08:05 AM
#4
Those i3 models remain unaffected by the degradation problem, as discussed earlier
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alex_oo3
05-14-2023, 08:05 AM #4

Those i3 models remain unaffected by the degradation problem, as discussed earlier

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starwarsTP
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05-16-2023, 05:15 PM
#5
They work well for residential or office setups, though finding a suitable SOCKET LGA1700 motherboard at a reasonable price remains a challenge on this platform.
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starwarsTP
05-16-2023, 05:15 PM #5

They work well for residential or office setups, though finding a suitable SOCKET LGA1700 motherboard at a reasonable price remains a challenge on this platform.

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NinjaTurtleNL
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05-22-2023, 01:42 PM
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PCIe 5.0 compatibility poses challenges for budget boards. Most under $100 only support PCIe 4.0 in the main port. The lowest capable model I've seen is the Asrock B760M Steel Legend WiFi priced at $140. While it's not the cheapest, it offers solid features and good VRM design. It includes three M.2 slots, 2.5GbE speed, and WiFi 6E. Running a 14900K there at 253W works perfectly. A similar AM5 board isn't significantly more affordable.
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NinjaTurtleNL
05-22-2023, 01:42 PM #6

PCIe 5.0 compatibility poses challenges for budget boards. Most under $100 only support PCIe 4.0 in the main port. The lowest capable model I've seen is the Asrock B760M Steel Legend WiFi priced at $140. While it's not the cheapest, it offers solid features and good VRM design. It includes three M.2 slots, 2.5GbE speed, and WiFi 6E. Running a 14900K there at 253W works perfectly. A similar AM5 board isn't significantly more affordable.

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FuriousBlob
Junior Member
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05-31-2023, 10:41 PM
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I favor not using any Wi-Fi connection at all, opting for something other than WiFi6 or WiFi7, and I want a performance that surpasses the Realtek ALC897.
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FuriousBlob
05-31-2023, 10:41 PM #7

I favor not using any Wi-Fi connection at all, opting for something other than WiFi6 or WiFi7, and I want a performance that surpasses the Realtek ALC897.

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Ungeheuer12345
Junior Member
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06-08-2023, 07:40 PM
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You're looking to use the laptop for tasks requiring more performance, specifically targeting components like DDR5, PCIe Gen 5, and something superior to the ALC897 all while staying under $200.
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Ungeheuer12345
06-08-2023, 07:40 PM #8

You're looking to use the laptop for tasks requiring more performance, specifically targeting components like DDR5, PCIe Gen 5, and something superior to the ALC897 all while staying under $200.

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yKamui
Member
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06-23-2023, 01:09 PM
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But will you really need or notice any improvement with PCIe 4 when paired with an i3 processor and your typical usage? From what I've seen, most people find that PCIe5 and DDR5 are more than enough for everyday tasks and don't deliver the impressive performance they expect. While some tests might highlight a difference, in practice the gains are usually not noticeable when you look at the monitor or use the computer regularly.
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yKamui
06-23-2023, 01:09 PM #9

But will you really need or notice any improvement with PCIe 4 when paired with an i3 processor and your typical usage? From what I've seen, most people find that PCIe5 and DDR5 are more than enough for everyday tasks and don't deliver the impressive performance they expect. While some tests might highlight a difference, in practice the gains are usually not noticeable when you look at the monitor or use the computer regularly.

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06-24-2023, 12:12 AM
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The Realtek ALC897 is not as good as what I currently have. If you plan to spend more, switching to LGA1851 and AM5 boards might make more sense. Are you thinking about using DDR4 instead? I won’t use PCIe5 right now, but it’s worth considering a board that supports it later.
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DGfanboyiscool
06-24-2023, 12:12 AM #10

The Realtek ALC897 is not as good as what I currently have. If you plan to spend more, switching to LGA1851 and AM5 boards might make more sense. Are you thinking about using DDR4 instead? I won’t use PCIe5 right now, but it’s worth considering a board that supports it later.

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